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*-* i'm jealous i want this promo pic now !! go sawyer !! ^^
looks fake to me, i cant see the show using that image
Dude you need a new expression.
I agree looks a little fake and quite over the top
Well, I wouldn't say fake. EW reporters were probably on the set for the filming of this episode and their photographer took this pic during a short break of Josh in character.
who needs a new expression? me? i dont remember saying that before.
this pics probably taken from when sawyers hitting ben who is tied to a tree
also, his arm is stretched fully so he's way off taregt to wahtever he's hitting
I am talking abt Josh Holloway Lost King :) Not you! I mean his facial expression
Josh needs to get his layers sorted, his hairs looking a bit lank again. Maybe resident hairdresser Kate can sort him out. I'm assuming it was her who fringed Claire too.
My projected Season 4 Fantasy League stats are looking grimmer by the minute. (Sawyer is one of my choices; I knew going in that he would regularly lose points for inflicting and getting injuries. But every promo photo confirms that it'll be even worse than I thought.) Thank heavens that other main character are involved in the mayhem, too.
And tanya palta, maybe Sawyer could borrow one of the good doc's many Jackfaces. ;)
@tanya: ITA!
I love Sawyer especially when he jokes and calls people all those hilarious nicknames and when he quotes the many books he read (he's much more educated than what he shows). But this angry 'man of the stone age' look is almost ridiculous. He had it quite often in all the three seasons, I don't know why he overdoes it so much...
I think that this episode is going to be great. I suppose he's with Ben, and this has to be right before his meeting with Locke.
Cool photo!
@elisabetta
I suspect that TPTB ask them to exaggerate their expressions sometimes. Jack has a few that he could tone down, too, especially the blood-vessels-popping-on-the neck one and the big-mouth-screaming one.
Obviously, both have many other expressions. Jack showed his others to best advantage in the Through the Looking Glass flash forward, and Sawyer showed his range in I Do and The Brig in particular.
lol Tanya, sorry i jumped to conclusions...my lost withdrawels are kicking in
Dark,
It would be rad if you could say, Source: Ralphie from Fishbiscuitland, because that is where I originally posted this image.
http://fishbiscuitland.com/fishelageII/viewtopic.php?t=3&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=2460
Cheers,
Ralphie
Well I think that's pretty damn cool.
I think that's a nice picture and I don't see anything wrong with his expression. At least his eyes aren't popping out of his sockets like they tend to do with one of the other actors on the show.
Thanks for posting this. I got my magazine yesterday and posted a comment on it here hoping someone like Lyly would scan it for this site (I can't). The pic may be posed, but Sawyer does look rather fearsome and it kind of fit with all the discussion that happened yesterday about fighting and toughness.
Josh can glare like nobody's business. LOL. Where's this 'one expression' junk coming from? Along with Terry O'Quinn, Josh is probably the most expressive actor on this show. You never have to guess what Sawyer is thinking or feeling. It's all over his face.
Saska - I live for the Jackfaces. LMAO.
@crystal
Right back at you! :)
Looks like my comment hurt some of the Sawyer fans. Josh the most expressive? mmm I wonder why the writers always talk about him taking his shirt off rather than talking abt his acting skills!
"Josh can glare like nobody's business."
We know maybe thats why he does it so often? I likd him in Brig but I dont think he was brilliant in I Do. When he was getting shot, when Kate was on the talkie, when she was narrating the story back, Josh had this same expression/ scowl on all the scenes.
Oh and nice comeback by bashing Fox! That guy is really important in your universe!
Thanks Ralphie, have updated.
I never said that Jack's faces aren't sometimes ridiculous, there are many videos on youtube with Jackfaces and I have a good laugh every time I watch them!
But saying that Josh has many expressions is a lie.
You have to be objective even if you like him and you ship Skate.
He's always had the same angry 'I'm going to kill you' expression from Season 1, maybe you don't see it but that's the truth. Nevertheless, I really like his character.
This is the difference I guess between some shipper bloggers and others who are far more objective.
I like Jack, Foxy, etc. but I can see his flaws too, both in the character and in the actor.
And if they posted a pic where Jack looks ridiculous with one of his faces, I wouldn't start bashing Sawyer, I'd just look at the pic and have a good laugh.
nice picture...i especially loved the angle of the picture!
LOL. I wonder if any of you have several 'glare' faces when you're angry. It's the same face. Glaring. Thus remaining the same. I know, that was pretty difficult to understand. O.o
When I said Josh and Terry are the most expressive actors on this show, I meant that they're excellent at conveying a single thought or emotion with just a look. Their eyes do the acting for them. I'd put Elizabeth Mitchell in the same group as well.
Tanya - Josh is the hunk of the show. Ain't nothing wrong with that. It doesn't negate the fact that he's a great actor as well. He's hot and talented. Double the threat.
Curious. The same people who whined incessantly about Jack bashing are trying desperately to find a new way to bash Josh Holloway now. Good Luck with that. Yes, he does have one of the most expressive faces on the show, and has turned a stock type of character into probably the most emotionally compelling and popular character there is, worldwide. Jealousy isn't becoming on either side.
And I did find that "Jack could beat anyone" discussion the other day to be hilarious, especially when you consider that there is no bigger badass on this show than Sawyer. Never has been, never will be. And this photograph, staged for biggest impact, shows exactly why men and women the world over love love love to watch this character.
This kind of picture gets me psyched for Lost so much more than another shot of the pompous martinet Jack strutting about and LOL! winking!
elisabetta - "being objective" does not mean "agreeing with elisabetta". This seems to be a surprisingly hard lesson for many fans to understand.
This is ridiculous. Someone says something not good about Josh Holloway, and then the other person replis saying something about Matthew Fox. Wth??? I don't understand.
Skaters complain about Jaters "squeeing", what do i see here? Squees for Josh! Can't we have some peace? I couldn't even read all the comments, so tired of this...
breakaleg, your avi betrays you. There is no neutrality around here, obviously not from you either. People have to read through essays about how "objectively speaking, this is the Jack show and Josh Holloway is a one note actor" or "I'm not a shipper but objectively speaking, obviously Jate is Fate" or "Jack makes me orgasm because he's the man I'll never be" and so one and so forth, nonstop crap - it's going to provoke a response. Lectures won't stop it, especially when every lecture has its own obvious bias.
Dark, PLEASE i beg u, for God's sake, do something!i don't even comment here, but i love your blogs and i come here every day. But this is shipper hell!!!!!! i can't stand anymore, its not healthy anymore, EVERYTHING is about Kate Jack n Sawyer. Matthew is the best.Josh is the best. Jate is OTP, Skate is OTP, WE GET IT. Stop the girl picking at each other thingy, get a life, get a boyfriend, damn, GTFO! You all are SICK!!!!!!!!
Oh my gosh, PEOPLE. What's wrong with you? Why can't people say that "BOTH FOXY AND JOSH ARE GOOD". Because they ARE. Foxy is an amazing actor and I think he's faces are incredibly expressive. When he's angry and yelling and his eyes are popping out whatever, I think it's very realistic in it's passion, intensity and everything. He's incredible.
And Josh, just the same. And to say that he's a one-expression guy... THAT is a lie. If you rewatch all three seasons, I'm sure you'll manage to find more than one expression from his face.
That all being said, I can tell you that Jack and Sawyer are both in my Top 5 favorite characters list. I have absolutely no bias concerning the two and I can safely say that they are both magnificent actors. So, stop trying to get back to each other for bashing one of those hotties, becuase it's moronic. Just accept that they are BOTH GREAT.
Dammit.
Oh, and I think the picture is awesome. I'm sure it's not from the actual show and they just asked Josh to pose for the camera. And I think it worked. Sure, it's over-the-top, but it IS just a promo pic, so I don't mind.
veronique: my avatar does not betray me. I'm a Jater, i'm not hiding anything. And for sure there's no neutrality here, my point is that we should stop. People also have to read essays about how Josh is hot and awesome, but Matthew Fox is an ass or something. "Josh is too hot for words, Josh's hair is beautiful, Josh should get a nomination for Oscar. Josh is the mister universe." That is nonstop crap for some people, too. It's also going to provoke a response, so what's the point on going on with this? I tried to be neutral on my first comment. There were no Jate is Fate or Josh sucks. You are accusing people because they're doing the same as you do. As we all do. God, this is crazy, i understand why people are getting pissed of at shippers here.
The same people who whined incessantly about Jack bashing are trying desperately to find a new way to bash Josh Holloway now. Good Luck with that. Yes, he does have one of the most expressive faces on the show, and has turned a stock type of character into probably the most emotionally compelling and popular character there is, worldwide. Jealousy isn't becoming on either side. - veronique
Did you see how some people bashed Josh's wife in one of the comment sections of this website? That was low, very low.
I must agree that Josh Holloway has an unbelievable expressive face. He can act subtle emotions but he can also pull of the over the top stuff. Not to mention that he's very good when it comes to acting romantic scenes.
And before anyone accuses me of being a Josh Holloway fangirl, I have to disappoint you. I don't squeee over his pictures or say how hot he is or that he looks like a greek god or something. If I am a fangirl, I'm a fangirl of Michael Emerson's because I'm a huge fan of this man's acting and personality.
The picture is good!
@breakaleg: perfect post.
I was not bashing anyone, I expressed my opinion like people do in a democracy, and I did it politely.
As I said, sometimes, in certain occasions, characters (ALL CHARACTERS) overdo expressions and what is supposed to be tragic turns into ridiculous.
And this is my personal opinion.
Rousseau too sometimes she really looks like she's a patient at a mental institution and Jack's face when Locke blew up the submarine, I almost laughed....
What is your problem if I think that Josh overdoes this angry look?
I'm not the only person who thinks this but maybe I'm wrong, he has many expressions and it's me who can't see them.
All the actors on Lost are extremely talented but the only actors who balance their on-screen emotions perfectly, IMO, are M.Emerson and John Terry. They're the most expressive.
E. Lilly considering it's her first acting job, is fantastic.
E. Mitchell, for example, I think exactly the opposite as Crystal.
Maybe I'm wrong when I say it's 'objective', but I can always see the same expressions on her face, even in Santa Clause 3, she had the same look as she has in Lost...but the story of her character is one of the best.
But again, why would someone get offended?!
I thought that ppl here were just having a chat about their favourite show so why are you being so aggressive?
I'm glad that you like Josh, he's the hunk of the show, etc. It's totally fine by me! Why would this bother me?!
When I see Foxy/Jack pics, it's true, I 'squeee' and I think that I I am allowed to.
Why would that bother you so much?
Ppl think that other people are 'trying desperately to find a new way to bash Josh Holloway now.'
This is sick. Honestly.
So, I'll stop discussing freely, since there's always someone who takes things personally.
@precious
It was me, it was me!!
I wrote that he+ his wife don't look like the perfect match, but I am not ashamed and I say it again here.
And you are not making me feel guilty!
Many people think this and will never post it. I chose to be honest. And I still think this, due to the fact that in all the pics I saw she looks so young that she seems like she's his daughter.
I'm sorry to upset you but people everywhere make comments every day about everyone. About me, you, my husband, yours, famous actors, singers, Sarkozy and Carla Bruni, etc.
And I am still making them, I look at smthg and I say what I think.
People sometimes are even paid for commenting other poeple. I do it for free!
Why does it have to be a fight? Sawyer may and has the same angry faces but for Lost this might be ok - - as for other roles, it scares me. Matthew Fox is not the best actor of Lost but he is ok also. However, MF has way more experience and can do it better sometimes. He is constantly mentioned as one of the guys that give it all and I believe it. Terry O'Quinn and Michael Emerson are in a completely different world of acting. They are fabulous.
And veronique, I believe most of the comments agreed that Sayid, not Sawyer or Jack is the bad boy with regards to fighting. Why not give him credit and once again bash Jack?
Yes, I love Jack more than I love Sawyer.
Furthermore, I believe both of them deserve way better than Kate! I might get my wish.
WOW
Great picture!
I want to see that scene. It's not going to be like Sayid killing one other with his legs (the best scene from the final, woo hoo!), but an scene with Ben and Sawyer has to be really good.
And Elisabetta, personally, I haven't got problems with your comments( most of the times I just ignore them), but...sometimes I think that I'm reading yellow press or gossip magazines instead of comments about Lost. But as you say: "You expressed your opinion like people do in a democracy".So you will keep writing comments and I will try to ignore them. Cheers!
; )
MY GOD, there was a time when a tought that the Fight club-Brad Pitt they write about on the picture was the hottest man ever. That was before Josh/Sawyer!
Even with dirty hair and blood on his hands his just georgious:D
Cant it be 31 january soon:(
@tanya palta - ...I dont think he was brilliant in I Do. When he was getting shot, when Kate was on the talkie, when she was narrating the story back, Josh had this same expression/ scowl on all the scenes.
You used the last few minutes of that episode to make your point. You missed mentioning the expressions on Sawyer's face when he was: entreating Kate to go back to her cage, admitting that he didn't tell her about the other island because he didn't want to kill her hope, looking at her with wonder and arousal when she unbuttoned his shirt, asking her with his eyes if she really wanted to make love, worshipping her with his eyes when she made it clear that she did, holding her with quiet joy afterward, showing his grief and acceptance that death was his only choice.
I made the comment about Jackfaces after you first disparaged Josh Holloway's acting talent. I went on to say that both Josh and Matthew Fox sometimes exaggerate their expressions but both are capable of subtle ones, especially Josh in The Brig and I Do, and Matthew in Through the Looking Glass. I wasn't trying to be fair.
Precious, I agree that there has been more and more Josh and Sawyer bashing on this site. Go over the Media section and notice the digs at Josh's hair,weight and choice of spouse. Josh fans have been more restrained about Matthew's personal life and appearance. I also am sick to death of reading comments about shirtless Sawyer, as if his looks are the only thing that fascinate his fans.
@breakaleg - Skaters complain about Jaters "squeeing", what do i see here? Squees for Josh!
Saying that Josh Holloway is a good actor is not squeeing. I think that you will find many more examples of Matthew Fox fans squeeing on any thread here.
The real problem is that Jack fans think that it is OK to bash Josh or Sawyer and then are surprised when we fans defend them; but that somehow it is sacrilege to criticize Jack/Matthew. Why the double standard?
...Make that "I was trying to be fair". Freudian slip, Jocelyn? Brother, now I'm talking to myself...Help, I need Lost. :)
I wonder if this is a pic from the show where we are going to see it from this angle when Sawyer knocks Ben out or if it´s just a pic they took for the paper..?
oh wow get over it already !!!!!!!!!!! this triangle thingy is getting on my nerves ..it aint even funny
wow get a life guys...
my fav. actors on the show are sawyer, locke, ben and juliet...
so pls. pls. stop this triangle thingy omg
@saska. I used the last few minutes because I was talking abt the angry scowl he seems to have patented. No need to give me the recap of the whole episode. However I still believe that he was just abt in I Do and the stuff you mentioned abt worship and love etc, cool that you see that. I don't. The situation was touching but I don't think that it was his best work. Thats my opinion.
However I don't understand the constant counter-attack. I say something negative abt Josh, you have to say something negative abt Fox. Are those two related?
Josh fans have been more restrained abt Fox? Whr did you get that idea from?
Have you ever visisted FishbiscuitLnd? They have stand alone threads on Fox, how ugly he is,what an ass he is! Hell they have threads on certain Jaters too and have no qualms abt bashing real life ppl for fictious characters.
So please dont say Jack fans like bashing Josh but Josh fans have a holier than thou attitude.
Anyways its quite ridiculous to make it ONCE AGAIN abt Fox vs Holloway just because I commented on his facial expression! Take A Chill Pill!
The real problem is that Jack fans think that it is OK to bash Josh or Sawyer and then are surprised when we fans defend them; but that somehow it is sacrilege to criticize Jack/Matthew. Why the double standard?
I don't think anyone has a problem with constructive criticism directed toward any character or actor, but I think we all know that is not the case when it comes to Jack/MF. I don't normally read Sawyer/JH related things so maybe the bashing is equally bad, but I think if a group of fans had been spreading hateful rumors all summer about JH being a troublemaker and being written out of the show I would've noticed it and if any Sawyer/JH fan can point me to a place that even remotely resembles Fishbiscuitland, you know that place where entire forums have been set up dedicated to the trashing of MF and to the trashing of MF's fans, I would love to see it and will gladly agree that the behavior by both groups is equally dispicable.
Oh and as for the picture. It's Sawyer. Honestly, after 3 seasons don't you think most of the characters have a patented look? That is Sawyer's look, the look we've all come to know and love and expect. Is he supposed to suddenly change what we've come to expect from Sawyer? I don't know when I think of Lost and Sawyer, that's pretty much what comes to mind. It does look like it's posed though, not something that is part of an episode. Could be wrong though, maybe he's getting ready to add some more damage to Ben's face. We can hope can't we?
@mikhail: lol :)
the best attitude ever!
This is going to be you: '485 comments' on this thread. Oh my god, how long will it take me to read them all?...phew, there are a few from Elisabetta,at least I can skip some!
I'm quite proud of being the gossipy poster on the forum, believe it or not, my dream has always been the fashion industry. But I chose a complete different career and then my child came along, the working hrs were too demanding, etc. etc.
Btw, did you know that Jack was wearing an Armani suit in the Pilot and that Foxy's CK underwear was showing sometime in Season 1, if I remember well?
How can you possibly be a fan of Lost and not knowing this?! :P
Lol I didnt know that! Dig the Armani suit though.
Apparently he wore something similar on Jay Leno when he had come to promote his action figure which was from the pilot and had the same suit. Leno really pulled his leg and asked him if he has only one black suit. Foxy was kinda embarrassed but it was quite funny:)
He is so hot!!!!.And awww i just love the quote on the pic,Josh Holloway and Brad Pitt that is.... oh ok i will stop now!!
I don't know if J&K fans have a specific forum where they bash fans of Josh Holloway or the actor himself but I've seen that fangroup bash every actress (Michelle Rodriguez, Julie Bowen, Elizabeth Mitchell and even Evangeline Lilly) who portrays a love interest for Jack/MF on various Lost forums or Television websites around the internet. I've also seen them bash the producers of the show, the characters (especially Kate, Juliet, Sarah and Sawyer and one of the highlights was a pic of Kate with a shot in the head) and the show itself. I've seen all that happening on the ABC boards and places like the Fuse and Lost forum. That's also the reason why I don't go there anymore.
Everything I've read so far in this comments section regarding MF was relatively harmless. This, for example, was written by a J&K fan at the buddytv.com comments section for the actress Elizabeth Mitchell:
yo its yomamma again. holy crap she is the ugliest thing that i have ever seen!!!!!! if i had to pick the dumbest person on the show it would be juliet! i like kate a lot better....jate is fate!!!lol
That's really very mature behaviour. As if calling the actress, who only does her job, the ugliest thing a person has ever seen is constructive criticism. Far from it. This is outright bashing.
"resembles Fishbiscuitland, you know that place where entire forums have been set up dedicated to the trashing of MF and to the trashing of MF's fans,"
Katieb: go and see the Anti-Sawyer thread's on the Fuse and you will see what is trashing of Josh Holloway and his fans.
tanya palta, you said that Sawyer needs another expression so I gave you examples of several others from one episode in particular where he showed amazing range. You spoke as though the only thing he did in that entire episode was to glare.
When I talked about showing restraint in bashing, I was talking about this site, not others. (I'd like this to be a site where there is some restraint in gushing, too). We could all quote until the cows come home to prove that each shipping group is vicious in its attacks on Sawyer or Josh and Jack or Matthew respectively. It's obvious all of us are remembering jabs we've seen elsewhere when we react strongly to criticisms here.
Yes there are stupid ppl everywhere and some really cross the line (like the EM example precious gave)however there is nothing like Fishbiscuitland.
The difference? Not only have they made a career out of bashing Fox but also certain Fox/Jate fans.Hell even Josh would get scared seeing what his fans are posting on FB and how they react to Fox and jaters.
I am sorry but that place is vile and the lost-forums, abc board or even Darks comments section pale in comparison. I have signed up for a couple of Jate communities and also some Jate forums, I have not seen any bashing of Skate fans or anything vicious abt Josh.
Once again its a little intresting that you immediately talked abt Josh Holloway anti threads when I talked abt FB. Tell me is tearing apart Fox or some of his fans justified because thr are anti-holloway threads? Does that make it all right?
I am a hard core Jater but if I come across threads which ridicule certain Skaters or just bash Holloway for the sake of it, I wouldnt like it. Nor would I defend them by saying" oh thr are anti Fox threads on Fuse" etc.
I am not saying you guys are like ppl on FB, all Im saying is that its quite ridiculous to accuse Fox fans on this forum to be anti-skate, anti-josh etc.
I as someone who has been watching Lost from the pilot made a comment/observation abt an actor and its my opinion.
If ppl want to get in their shipping agenda or make it abt Fox vs Holloway then its thr problem.
Tanya I just went there for the first time and OMG! Unreal. I've just sent a poll to dark which I hope he posts in the poll section.
@Momento
Yeah I Know. I was shocked/appalled too and I dont get shocked easily (at least I like to believe so). Anyways lets not give Fishbiscuitland too much of importance since it doesnt deserve any.
Whats the poll abt :)
I have a question to the Jate fans on this website: Do you guys also ship Mavie? I once stumbled on a Mavie thread at ,I think it was fanforum but I'm not sure about it anymore and I was shocked when I read all the crazy theories and insults to Fox's wife and Dom over there. I just can't believe that fans of Matt's would call his wife pizzaface and that some people who claim to be fans of Evi would make remarks about the penis size of her boyfriend. If you don't ship Mavie, what do you think about that "fangroup"?
@tanya palta - Once again its a little intresting that you immediately talked abt Josh Holloway anti threads when I talked abt FB.
I didn't talk about Josh Holloway anti threads.
In an earlier post, you talked about countering a Josh/Sawyer comment with a Matthew/Jack one. In the case of our exchange, my response to your assertion that Josh/Sawyer needs to get a new expression was pretty harmless. Jack does make a lot of interesting faces on the show. If anyone else on the show had as many exaggerated expressions I would have said Sawyer could borrow one from them.
You countered with this:
Josh the most expressive? mmm I wonder why the writers always talk about him taking his shirt off rather than talking abt his acting skills!...Oh and nice comeback by bashing Fox! That guy is really important in your universe!"
You took the debate to a personal level.
Tanya - dark has just posted it.
Jate fan here. No I dont ship Mevie or whatever the hell its called. I have no interest in Fox or Lillys personal lives. If they do that , then they need help.
Maybe we can open a support group for the Mevie fans u talked abt and the FB posters. The world can always do without less negativity. Maybe that way Fox,Holloway,Lily wont have to spend big bucks on getting restraing orders for posters like that.
I have a question for all Skate fans. How long will this counter-atatck on Fox/Jaters last? Whats you opinion on FB?
Precious I find your question patronizing.Maybe thats not ur attention but are you assuming that ppl would want that? Did I or any of ther others Jaters who post here mentioned Mevie or whatever the hell you call it. I have read posts on ppl wanting Lilly and Holloway being together. So lets not assume those set of shippers are a majority cos that can of worms you dont want to open. Dark deserves better!
saska: Sorry if you thought I took it personal. By your I didnt mean you personally but Skaters cos isnt that what we were debating abt?The attitude of the Shippers?
Once again its a little intresting that you immediately talked abt Josh Holloway anti threads when I talked abt FB.
I didn't talk about Josh Holloway anti threads.
Did I address that comment to you?
@momento.
You are a brave brave person. Didnt you learn from here, hell hath no fury like a shipper scorned!
Kidding very interesting and kudos to Dark for posting it. :)
Shippers really get a bad name maybe we will learn from this poll.
Precious I find your question patronizing.Maybe thats not ur attention but are you assuming that ppl would want that? Did I or any of ther others Jaters who post here mentioned Mevie or whatever the hell you call it. - tanya palta
No, it was a serious question. When I read that thread I noticed that all the people posting over there were J&K fans. I just wanted to know if some of the J&K fans over here also ship the actors. It wasn't meant as an insult. The Smallville fanbase has the same kind of ship but they call themselves Sweethearts and ship Welling&Kreuk. It's shocking, really.
@precious
Rest assured Mevie is not on my agenda or the Jaters I know and I kn many ;). Weird abt the Smallville group too but are the actors on the show married? I mean how can anyone ship Mevie as Fox is married with Kids. Or Jevie (?) since Josh is also married. I can understand if ppl want their fav actors who are single to hook up but this mevie/jevie business is bizzare!
Precious you may want to ignore the question if you like but what abt fishbiscuitland? Have you seen that place and whats ur opinion of the stuff thats posted thr abt Jaters and Fox?
I didn't know that on the net people decided to get together and create anti-actors communities.
I decided not to open this Fishbiscuit after your comments: I realize I might have felt sorry for Matthew so I'm not going to open it!
Same goes for website/thread agains JH! But where's the point in them?
Maybe we should consider these ppl's age, I don't know, I didn't do this when I was 13, I was simply a fan of Simon Le Bon and I wanted to marry him but maybe youth has changed dramatically!
But these people are not Lost fans.
So we should just ignore them.
How can you not love one of the Losties? All their stories are so beautifully told that you cannot but empathize with them. When Charlie died I was so upset that I was embarassed for myself..
@precious
As for the mevie/mavie thing, I must tell you that I belong to a different culture where we don't take these things very seriously. I don't know what they say on these sites because in Italy skaters and jaters cohabit peacefully almost everywhere and I enjoy blogging on skaters blogs (just to tell you how laid-back we are about Lost and ships!).
I assume they're insulting Lily's (ex)partner and Matt's wife and this is not acceptable, but making up relationships between famous actors is part of the game and the producers know this too. I'm sure these people are in their early teens (well I hope so).
ps- Do they really call her pizzaface? Then I'm one of it too I believe :)
elisabetta - Simon Le Bon??? You too :) I cudnt decide between john taylor or Le Bon! Yeah we were a chilled out bunch
OT : sorry :)
@tanya! A Jater and a Duranie, yeaaah!!! I saw them live in Milan when I was pregnant three years ago and I felt 13 again! My husband kept telling me to sit down and relax but I couldn't! They'll be on tour again this year and I'm not going to miss them! I've always been loyal to Simon, he was such a heart-throb! Can you believe his daughters are around 20?! And did you see his wife, Yasmin? IMO, one of the most beautiful women on earth, honestly! Classy, elegant, gorgeous.
Rest assured Mevie is not on my agenda or the Jaters I know and I kn many ;). Weird abt the Smallville group too but are the actors on the show married? I mean how can anyone ship Mevie as Fox is married with Kids. Or Jevie (?) since Josh is also married. I can understand if ppl want their fav actors who are single to hook up but this mevie/jevie business is bizzare!
Precious you may want to ignore the question if you like but what abt fishbiscuitland? Have you seen that place and whats ur opinion of the stuff thats posted thr abt Jaters and Fox? - tanya palta
As far as I know, Tom Welling has been married for 6 years already and Kristin Kreuk is engaged. The Sweethearts have a huge online community and openly state that they only ship Clana because they want to see the actors make out. They hope that the actors leave their long-time partners and get together. They even state that in their fanmail to the actors and they are all rather obsessive about Kristin Kreuk. It's a very scary place.
I have never been to fishbiscuitland. I know the journal (I used to read the weekly recaps that Dark posts on his website) but not the forum. Does anyone have the link to that forum? Or can I access it by just searching for it in google?
Do they really call her pizzaface? Then I'm one of it too I believe :) - elisabetta
Yes, they do. That's one of the nicer things I've seen posted about her over there. They also celebrated when Evi & Dom broke up and they are hoping that Matt leaves his wife and his children. It's just sick IMO. I don't know much about his private life but I guess he must love her very much considering that they've been married for what, 10 or 12 years?
It's a shame people can't just enjoy the picture that was posted without getting into a war of words. It really amazes me. I really like the picture, but I hope all the new ones from now on are Sayid and Locke, Sun and Jin (where are they BTW), and Desmond and Claire. Oh, Hurley too.
@dana23
Come on, let's cheer up, I see intelligent people like precious, tanya and others who intelligently discuss.
It happens.
Awesome photo! I can't wait for the new season to start. Thanks for sharing!
@elisabetta - yes it does happen and I really enjoy the comments when they are well thought out and analytical. But this was just a picture and the discussion seemed to really stray more or less into another shipper war. I just feel for both sides or should I say all 3: Jate, Skate and non-shippers. I understand everyone's passion or, in the case of non-shippers, lack of passion, but I hate to see it escalate to an offensive level. I don't think that has happened here yet, but it has before and that makes it unpleasant for everyone. So if we stay away from everything Jack, Kate and Sawyer, all will be fine. Oh who am I kidding, that would never happen and in truth I wouldn't want it to.
So this is the rest of my experience on this site, then? This kind of pointless talk for as long as the show lasts?
I'm no shipper, but the Jate fans do seem to be far more prevalent on this site and, as such, more annoying.
Dark,
Thanks for adding the credit. I'm happy some people loved it as much as I did when I saw it in my EW. Here's hoping for a full LOST article in the next few weeks.
Cheers,
Ralphie
Here too. Omg...
@hatebox: you should chek out this poll and see who people think is the worst group. We jaters are happy because of the upcoming Jate moments, and we hear comments like "enough with this comments" and sorts of "ironic" and hateful comments. But don't we ever dare say ANYTHING about Skate or JH. Now they even hate Dark. As i said, you should check the poll, people KNOW what happens here and who is ANNOYING. Truth has been released.
Talking about this poll:
http://lostpolls.blogspot.com/2008/01/which-set-of-shippers-are-worst.html
Lol elisabetta! I was actually way below 13 when the Duran Duran explosion happened but since I was youngest in the family and hung around some crazy Durani cousins, they were my favs!
You saw them in concert, Im jealous :) I actually didnt like most of teh stuff they did after the wedding album but thats just me. Have tyou heard the Duran Duran Tribute album? Some amazing covers on them.
Hey are you on facebook? Maybe we can discuss the finer points of Jate/Duran Duran and Fox without being termed a non-american teen fangirl!
@tanya, no I'm not on facebook :(
but you can click on my blogger account which will re-direct you to my blog (er..it's about Foxy!) and even if it's all in Italian I will reply to your post (post smtgh on the last thread...it's about Vantage Point!) and give you my email address!
ok awesome! I just saw the trailer yesterday when I had gone to see National Treasurer! Both me and mum loved Foxy in it! Looks really interesting however cant say the same thing abt Speed Racer :)