Ben admits that Juliet was chosen to be his, as in a mate. Not to be with Goodwin. And that he wouldn't let Goodwin leave the tailies group specifically because he wanted him to get killed. This all becomes clear to Juliet as Ben shows her Goodwin's dead body.
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Post Produxtion Spoiler Snippet 5
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What...?!? Eurgh...
HUH??!!
This is some creepy shit. Ben being love with Juliet, sending Goodwin to die because of her- all of this has been implied all along but Ben actually tells her all this and that she was chosen to be his mate? No wonder she started trying to run for the hills.
No. Way.
That is kind of creepy. I just... hmm. I know it's been implied all along, but still. I NEED TO SEE THIS EPISODE NOW PLS.
that's ... ****ed up, but then again it's Ben.
um. . . gross . . .
Mind if I ask why you've been misspelling production?
Mind if I ask why you've been misspelling production?
That's the name of my source.
Hahaha, here we were expecting this episode would feature the Juliet/Goodwin/Harper love triangle, but it turns out it's actually about Goodwin/Juliet/Ban. And that's not even counting the current Juliet/Jack/Kate/Sawyer stuff.
I knew it. I always suspected that Ben sent Goodwin to the tailsection because he wanted him to get killed. And further confirmation that Ben has the hots for Juliet. I guess Juliet should have saved herself for Ben. I'm wondering who gets to choose who marries. Maybe Jacob.
people being promised as mating partners? ok the others are now sounding like some kind of messianic cult
Skeevey. Also, kinda odd. No baby-making, remember? I'll hold final opinions until the episode aires, but I honestly would have expected the writers to be more imaginative given the unique social situation they created with the Others. I mean, wouldn't it be more interesting, from a story-telling point, if heterosexual vaginal intercourse was discouraged or outlawed? (There's contraceptives that should be taken into account, although the show ignored their existance badly already with Alex & Karl.) After all, the community is suffering a crisis of pregant women dying. The last thing I'd think they'd be engaged in is het match-making.
On a different note, outside of Ben's 3.2 million dollars and an off-handed mention from Richard about how much they're paying Juliet, have we seen the Others handle money? Houses seemed owned, but I can't imagine them being anything but assigned, given how everyone was willing to pack up and leave when Jacob/Ben says so. No mortage, I mean. So where's the incentive for match-making? Even if the Others could have kids, they've never been shown have a particularly strong claim to estate. So what gets passed down? And what does it matter if they did? The Other's clearly don't have a capitalist economy. Jobs are given to whoever is best fit for it (or whoever Jacob or Ben wants to do it), not whoever is willing to do it for the least amount of money. You can have marriage - even monogamous marriage - outside of a capitalist system, but it feels a bit like the writers didn't fully think through the ramifications of the little society they've created.
The Others were a cult with Ben as their leader, no it seems that Locke is trying to start his own cult. Ben seems to be training John.
How did Ben know that Goodwin would be killed? Because he knew Anna-Lucia would kill him?
Yeah this spoiler seems weird and dumb....are the producers really going down this road?
I noticed there were hints of something going on between Ben and Juliet. But I thought they dropped that storyline and hooked her with Goodwin instead. But Wow, there is actually more to the Ben/Juliet relationship. No wonder Ben didn't want Juliet to leave the island.
And chosen mate? Like arranged marriage? Were Danny and Colleen arranged too?
No big surprise, Ben is horny.....
Interesting thing on Goodwin though, he was sent to die......dang, notice to anyone on that island, if you like someone Ben does just walk away and if you run into a chick named Annie, run the hell away!
That seems so juvenile and lame though. Why would he get rid of their power station technician because he was throwing a hissy fit over their marriage?
How does Harper fit into all of this? It would have made more sense if Harper and Goodwin were married and Juliet was having an affair. (Like earlier spoilers suggested)
They had to have just thought of this because Juliet shows no reaction to Goodwin being sent to the tail section, nor is she even remotely upset to this day about his death.
Island timeline puts Goodwin's death at day 27 and the present day being day 96. We even met her at day 68 where she began to flirt with Jack...seems rather quick for someone who recently became a widow.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that Juliet and Goodwin were married. They were not. It is Juliet who is having the affair with Goodwin.
OMFG! Ben is bad! He really is! I don't get it, Juliet becomes a cheating whore for a man that she didn't appear to love and she's so ready to jump Jack in present time...I need to see this episode NOW
Dark, I think the confusion is from the Digital Spy spoiler that says Juliet and Goodwin were married
If I had to choose between being Goodwin's other woman or Ben's mate, I would probably choose to be Goodwin's OW. And I can totally understand why Juliet betrayed Ben. I would have done the same thing. He is obsessed. It's unhealthy. Makes me wonder what other creepy things he has or had planned for her.
How do "the others" get married on the Island ??????? - there are no laws or rules there - even if they had a priest it would not be "legit".......
Dark, I think the confusion is from the Digital Spy spoiler that says Juliet and Goodwin were married
Ah I see. Yes, I'll add an update to that post. Seems DigitalSpy have got their knickers in a twist ;)
There certainly are rules in the Others' community. I know "Stranger in a Strange Land" was a painful episode, but we got to see the Others' laws at work in it. Of course they can have legitimate marriage within their community. It wouldn't be recognised in the outside world, of course, but that doesn't exactly seem to be an issue.
Yeah we seem to be getting a lot of mixed info on this episode.
Spoilers also state that they will be visiting "The Orchid", however the episode sneak peaks seem to indicate they're going to "The Tempist" which seems to involve powering the island, and nothing to do with the casmir effect.
ahrean said: "No big surprise, Ben is horny....." lol
How come Ben hasn't tried to kill Jack yet? Or perhaps that's included in the deal he will make with Locke?
Just when I thought Ben couldn't get any creepier!
No wonder Juliet wanted to leave the island ASAP...
I bet the next thing Ben does is gas the island and then blame it on Dan and Charlotte in order to convince the survivors to join his team.
I wonder how important the phrasing of this is. I mean "was chosen to be" could imply something communal and ritualistic, but chances are Ben just said "hey, I want her" when she came to the island and it's nothing creepier than the usual crush.
Just with a megalomaniac psychopath doing the crushing.
How come Ben hasn't tried to kill Jack yet?
Maybe because she hasn't had sex with him yet.
dark i think i love you. these snippet's are awesome ,lota fun. once you get them all do u think u could make a post with all of them?
gag me ben and julietee? nowonder he is bitter
Others community is sounding dumber and dumber.
"Ben admits that Juliet was chosen to be his, as in a mate."
WTH?? What kind of a plot is that?? I can't believe how the writers are trying to include every soap-operaish theme to Lost. "You're mine. If I can't have you, no one will". Seriously???
Will,
Yeah, I'm kinda wondering about the wording of the spoiler, too.
General,
A couple of additional notes to my comment above. I should have noted Alex being Ben's adopted/stolen daughter, since it is the sort of thing that does fit with No Children scenerio. I also forgot to mention Ben's stash of money and the line in "Three Minutes" where Tom says "Divy 'em up" about the guns taken after "The Hunting Party". Very spoils of war. But we still haven't seen the Others have any sort of coin, which makes me curious about there economic system. Are they socialist-esque with vital stuff being given to those who need it? Would certainly fit with the theocratic quasi-dictatorship form of government going on.
Speaking of which, I second aurorawest about the Others most definitely have a law system. One thing I really did like about "Stranger in a Strange Land" was the depiction of Juliet's trial. What was shown was very much in line with the writers thinking outside of the box rather than going with Default - that is, what they're personally familiar with - even if that makes no sense in the situation. Which goes back to me being curious about how "The Other Woman" is going to play out, given the emphasis the spoilers appear to be putting on the role of heterosexual monogamous relationships given that the Others don't appear to put much emphasis on bloodline inheritance (actually close to impossible) and personal property (limitted?).
When he shows the body of Goodwin that must mean we're well into season 2, and I wonder if this will be the episode which shows the circumstances of him being captured by Russo.
Ben could always claim that Jacob chose Juliet for him (Ben).
muscy bob:
You state that the info is mixed up--
I would think that would not be a problem for you since you don't want to be spoiled too much. Yet you still return to the spoiler page
@Jello - true dat about Ben, I wouldn't be shocked in the least if at the end of this series we see Ben locked up in Hurley's old mental ward, diagnosed as a severly paranoid schizophrenic. Don't get me wrong, I like Ben now, I love how he works Locke over big time but still....and lol at the rest of your comment!
omg... creepy much?
hey remember what tom said to jack. Those two had history......
Ben is an ass.....seriously
well from what we've seen about the Others, Juliet was the strongest and smartest woman. Why wouldn't Ben want to marry her? He was nice when she met him
remember the book club Juliet was having in her house the day the plane crashed? there was obvious animosity between Juliet and Ben then. i don't think they had ever been "chummy".
@Jello
Yea dude, learn to read and stop trying to cause problems. I have no problem with spoilers, all I said is that these should probably be behind the are you sure tag considering they're the spoilers that would normally go behind that tag, they're just not all together as usual.
@Jello
Yea dude, learn to read and stop trying to cause problems. I have no problem with spoilers, all I said is that these should probably be behind the are you sure tag considering they're the spoilers that would normally go behind that tag, they're just not all together as usual.
So much for Ben having a good motive!
They probably saw Juliet's ex-husband and said WTF, Ben can get her LMAO!
@i am joe king: that cracked me up!
seriously though? seriously? as many other posters have already pointed out, it's quite obvious why juliet wanted to get the hell off of that island.
@ Muscy Bob:
I doubt that Dark needs anyone to tell him how to run his website.
Perhaps, some other site would be better suited to fulfill your spoiler needs ?
Or starting your own is another option ?
Namaste, "brutha" !
@Jello
Leave it alone and stop causing trouble. Dark asked me for constructive criticism, I gave it to him. He doesn't seem to have a problem with it so you shouldn't either since you seemed to be attached to him at the hip.
Brotha
ooooooo comment fight!!!!!
muscy bob:
this is Dark's response, just yesterday:
"Bob: There is a MASSIVE difference between these snippets and the full episode synopsis.
Once all these 7 snippets have been released there will at most be 10-15 lines of spoilers. A full episode synopsis has over 300.
If you can't stomach these spoilers then this section is NOT for you."
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So quit complaining and just appreciate Dark's site for what it is.
Namaste, dude !
btw, the correct spelling is tempest
not tempist
LOL
i figured there was some sort of relationship beyond friendship or co-workers when tom said "they have history" and when ben seemed upset/jealous (for ben, anyway) that he wasn't invited to the book club. totally didn't see the 'had goodwin killed' thing coming.
maybe ben thought juliet would be more 'manageable' since she had been so mousey with her ex-husband?
You sure pwned me Jello...
You win comment fight, to celebrate you should rethink life.
still complaining muscle bob, are we? Geesh, kinda makes me dread seeing your comments when I read stuff here, its always something negative with you, why not give it a rest?
So Ben found out from the spies/goodwin/etc in the tailsection that Ana-Lucia and Eko (the bad-cop and warlord)were alive, and that everyone was paranoid about who was who...so he assumed they would find out about Goodwin and kill him??? I guess that makes sense.
sorry for talking back to the rude poster emanuel....my bad.
the real question here, now has become, which comment thread will this carry over to next?
ben i sos creepy sometimes choosen....ewy