Thanks to our resident spy in Hawaii Ryan for the following.
From Fiji to New York City, it’s been a busy week for “LOST.” The production returned to Chapin Lane (which previously played Bangkok in a Jack flashback) and the area around Mark’s Garage to recreate the Big Apple. Streets were lit up with the Christmas spirit, and people bundled up for the imaginary winter cold. The omnipresent green newsstand was also standing by. A narrow alley, a busy street, a New York Yellow Cab. What could possibly happen here?
See the full set of photos here.
As it turns out, the “where” and “what” weren’t the half of it. It’s the “who” that’s the real surprise. Over the course of the evening, I and another “LOST” fan who lived in the apartment building across the street spotted a veritable parade of familiar faces. Harold Perrineau seemed to be the center of attention, which is hardly a surprise since we’ve seen him in Manhattan. Indeed, his clean cut look suggests that this is a flashback. But who should he meet in a narrow alley, but one M.C. Gainey. And it’s not a friendly encounter, either, involving a gun, and a fistfight. The sounds of the confrontation echo down Honolulu streets.
And what’s this? A car crash?
For a location shoot that may be among the last filmed in 2007 given the writers’ strike, this one looks like a doozy.
Source: Ryan@Hawaii Blog
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40 Comments:
wow, can't even begin to imagine what this is about...im excited
Lost is so confusing, ha!
Scratch Juliet and Ben. The person who said she saw them pointed out a pair at the craft table, and I'm pretty sure she was mistaken.
I'm still updating the post. We lost two Others but we gained a fight scene and a car crash!
Hi Ryan,
Thanks for the update my friend. I've updated the post to include your updated info.
Much appreciated.
$2.00 starting fare for a cab in NYC? I wish I could flashback too. :(
this is obviously must be for episode 8...but mr. friendly in a michael FB...???
hmmmm....
Michael only ever saw Friendly once without a beard, IIRC. At the Pala Ferry docks when Kate mentions that his beard is fake.S I guess it is possible they'd met before, and Michael wouldn't realise.
Looking at these again, I'm thinking this encounter could take place just before Michael phones Susan from the pay-phone and then gets knocked over, from his "Special" flashback.
That was set in new york, at night (possibly around xmas time as there are a couple of xmas lights in the background when michael gets knocked down.)
Michael was also clean-shaven here as suggested in the report.
Perhaps Michael's encounter with Mr Friendly leads him to phone Suasan, to speak to Walt for some reason.
Boy, this gave me a LOT of thoughts. Ep. 7 cliffhanger could be Michael's return to the island. Ep. 8 is Michael centered. If Michael and Tom met before, that would explain Tom's fake beard! He didn't want to be recognized. That also sugests the reason Walt was captured by the Others. I always felt strange vibes regarding Walt's past and sudden death of his mother. I´m smelling a conspiracy theory in here...
This could still be a flashback to when Michael gets off the island and Tom/Friendly has to go an get him back? Or Michael decides to tell the authorities about the Island and Mr Friendly is there to stop him?
On "Special" (01x15) Michael was hit by a car. Maybe Tom was driving that car :)
This could still be a flashback to when Michael gets off the island and Tom/Friendly has to go an get him back?
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Probably not, Dark. The Others couldn't go back to the island since the Purple Sky/Michael Departure (aka Ben manipulating the Looking Glass).
If episode 8 is a Michael centric, then I wonder how they are going to fit Libby in his flashback? I would think if he met Libby in the past, he would have recognized her while he was on the island. Libby just doesn't seem likely to be in a Michael flashback as opposed to say, Hurley.
Maybe Libby comes to Michael in a similar fashion in which Boone came to Locke?
It might indeed be a flashback as DarkUFO pointed out. Anthony Cooper described a similar crash, just prior his appearance on the Island. Whoever is working with the Others off-island consider crashes as a good option.
-S
Mike, who's visually strong (an artist), surely wouldn't be fooled by that stupid beard.
Yes, this does have the feel of a fb, to the time after Michael found "rescue".
But why would Tom & Ben bring him back? Maybe they didn't. It might have something to do with the comms being down. They can't communicate with Mike, so Tom's delivering a message or checking up on him???
Boy this one's a head-scratcher..
The Jack-flashback was Phuket, not Bangkok... :P
I'm not sure Tom would have enough time to get to New York and back to the island between the they let Michael go, and the time Tom is killed by Sawyer.
IIRC Tom was present all thru the Ben Surgery story arc in season 3, and again at the end of season 3 for the beach raid.
Anyone remember if he was around during the middle of season 3 when the others begin their little trip to the temple?
Remember also, we actually know very little about what Michael got up to before he came to the island.
All we know is he was an artist roughly 10 years before the crash, and got into construction at some point.
The next time we see him is when Brian Porter turns up at his door 10 years later.
I think Michael is the lostaway who probably has a lot more backstory than we've been led to believe.
This sounds--awesome.
webbsta, we are not yet told how exactly time is passing on the Island in comparison to the outside world. If what Dark mentioned turns out to be true, we will be given a bit of information to keep us puzzling. Cliffhanger, anyone?
-S
And even if the time is passing normal - why wouldn't he have time to go to NYC? I mean... it's not like he needs 3 months from the island to NYC and back...
Maybe i am talking crazy here but i have an idea.
Ive seen some spoilers about clones\doubles or parallel realities (ie people on the island are duplicated)
So what if this is actually after Micheal returns home and he sees Tom, he confronts him But its not the same Tom as on the Island!
Andy i think your on to something!
Another dimension?
There goes my volcano prediction for episode 8 at least. I had to rewrite my post because everyone had already posted what I wanted to say.
No clones-that would be a jump the shark moment IMHO. This has to be a flashback.
lostmio -Tom couldn't follow Michael home. After the hatch implosion gave away the location of the island to the bad guys, Ben almost immediately sent Bonnie and friend down to the Looking Glass to block communications. That way no one could get out or find a way in. Tom was stranded along with the rest of them. Then there is the cost of the cab on the cab door. That indicates it is not 2004.
I agree this might be the reason Tom had to wear a beard. And I think a beard would be enough to fool Michael. I don't remember the faces of people I saw three years ago let alone the seven it would have been if this was the night Michael had his car accident. Does anyone here? Especially if something else was going on to distract my attention (nighttime, being afraid of losing custody of my child, a fight, being hit by a car).
IMHO this means the Others were aware of Walt even back then which is a very scary thought. I need to rewatch those episodes with Michael flashbacks.
Websta -I think you are right. This was the night Michael was hit by the car (which seems to be the Other's weapon of choice when a bus is not available). Why would the Others want Walt's mother to get custody? Did they also kill her? The writers pointed out to us that she had gotten sick and died quickly (within a week?). That is very suspicious.
Or maybe Tom was involved in hitting Michael and it was the island that arranged for Walt to come to it by killing his mother. You know the "magic box" properties of the island. Perhaps it was time for Ben to pick a successor just as Richard had picked his successor-Ben (as Damon and Carlton have hinted) and the island found and brought both Locke and Walt as candidates. Only Ben then decided he didn't want to give up power for whatever reason.
This feels like it might be the mini cliff hanger they were talking about.
Doesn't seem like anyone's really mentioned Walt in this post. Could The Others have been following him from the outset? And Tom confronts Michael in an attempt to find out where Walt's gone? Just how important is Walt to Lost?
The return of the Golden Pontiac ?! :)
maureen- I never remember faces, especially if I only see them once. And if you look at the Others, you're never expecting them to be people who you've met before, you just assume they've always been on the island.
We also don't know what happened to Michael after he was captured. We saw him with Klugh and Walt, but perhaps as another part of convincing him to go back and release Ben (Fenry at the time), Tom took Michael to NY to show him something, and to prove that they COULD indeed send he and Walt home. Then they brought him back, and he went all nuts over Ana-Lucia and Libby. This was all pre-Hatch meltdown... though he wasn't clean shaven. Still, might be an option!
Just re-watched Michaels car accident flashback, and there is one small contradiction that may disprove this flashback takes place at the same time as the accident.
Michael phones Susan and asks to talk to Walt. Susan says he can't speak as he is only 21 months old.
In the same episode (I think) we find out Walt's birthday is sometime in August, so it'd have to be 21 months after that. Which puts that flashback sometime in may If my calculations are correct. And unless the crazy-changing-multi-dimensional-plotline can explain why they've got xmas in may, then it probably can't be the same night afterall :(
^^^Meh! Checked again, and they've got xmas lights in the original flashback, so it probably just a slight continuity error afterall.
I go back to my original belief that it DOES take place the same night as the accident.
The way it could also be is that this was pre-island for Mr. Friendly as well, before he was recruited.
Him and Michaels encounter was just another Lost connection.
By the look of the article it sounds like Tom, Ben & the Others are well aware of Walt's special powers/abilities. & the only way to get to Walt is thru Michael. So Tom threatens Michael with a gun, when that doesn't work, they end up in a fist-fight. But is Walt like Locke, connected to the island? I can't wait to see Malcolm David Kelley & Harold Perrineau back next season. Its been too long!!
Thanks Dark & Ryan
I think you are all reading into it too much. Tom and Michael's encounter is probably as coincidental as everyone else's flashback encounters.
They always alluded Tom could be gay... for all we know, he could have been hitting on Michael and got rejected ;)
Wow great info dark! Haven't had time to comment much lately so thanks again for the great site. I really hope this writers stike is over soon so we get a whole season! Oooooh can't wait until February!
Ryan, is this as close as you can generally get to the set? Or was there a possibility you could have gotten closer so we could have a newspaper date?
Anyways, great catch, always love the things you wander off and find ;)
The New Yorker issue on the newsstand is from the issue dated November 19, 2007. This makes it either a prop error, or a flashforward.
See this link for the issue image: http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=6NEJELPSCDTV8PWSKTTDJUGL9DV64VB0&sitetype=1&did=5&sid=124574&pid=&keyword=tree§ion=covers&title=undefined&whichpage=170&sortBy=popular
sorry, here is a better link:
http://www.cartoonbank.com/item/124574
Dan, your my favourite!
Now thats an effing easter egg that gives us a clue when this set was made.. hopefully. And good work!
I say it's part of a dream/hallucination sequence.
Wow, good catch with The New Yorker... though I will re-point out that the cab has a $2.00 base fare... which, at the time of that New Yorker's release should be $2.50.... though something tells me that it's such a minor thing that it wouldn't determine if it was a fb or a ff.