As we all know LOST is currently on a 5 week hiatus, but filming and production for the final 5 episodes of Season 4 is in full swing. Over the last week or so we have posted several set photos and reports for episode 4x09 The Shape of Things to Come and we hope to have more spoilers for the remaining episodes soon.
Thanks to DocArzt we have the following filming update and rumors.
4.09 - The Shape of Things To Come
Ryan in Hawaii (The Transmission) let me know that filming wrapped today on Police Beach. This means we will see the beachies, as well as camp Locke.
There are some rumors from a reputable source that GI Jack (aka Through the Looking Glass Jack) was in action. Is The Shape of Things To Come a multi-character flash forward? (Ryan's info does not corroborate this rumor.)
Locations used for The Shape of Things to Come: Papailoa (Police Beach AKA Camp Jack), Camp Erdman (Otherton, Camp Locke), Heeia Kea (The forested valley where Karl was shot), Honolulu Community College (Iraq), and Diamond Head for the Otherton interiors and anything secret they may have filmed. Altogether they filmed two solid days on the Iraq set, and another day for pick ups. Definitely enough footage to cover the flash segment, throwing the GI Jack rumor under the shadow of doubt. (Thanks Ryan, again!)
4.10 - Untitled
Dominic Monaghan suggested that 4.10 is a Kate Centric episode.
4.10 Is being shot tomorrow(ish) and there is a TON of interior shooting going on at Diamond Head Studio (thanks, Ryan, again.) I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that 4.10 is going to show us the interior of "The Orchid." But that's nothing more than a guess at this point.
BEYOND: There is a nasty nasty rumor floating around that there will NOT be a Sawyer centric episode this season. That just doesn't seem right.
Source: DocArzt
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i really hope that ep 10 isn't purely just a Kate flashforward, i hope it encorporates other characters too, because it doesn't seem fair that kate gets 2 flashforwards this season and others like sawyer, claire etc don't get any
I'm treating this as a rumour, because although it came from Doc Arzt, his info has become quite sketchy as of late.
While I trust Dark to vet the spoilers, I feel he sometimes gives his sources quite a bit of lee-way in being wrong - especially when the site is running slowly anyway (see main page article about it).
I'm not blaming anyone under the circumstances - but this 'spoiler' seems to be quite light on actual information that will hold up to scrutiny.
im not sure i understand what they're saying when they say GI Jack.. are they referring to the Jack from the FF or the Jack from the island in the episode.. which to me, is just regular Jack....
if it DOES mean that it's the Jack from the FF.. that would mean that Jack pops up in the Sayid or Ben FF?!?! hmmm... i guess im just thinking out loud because that "GI Jack" comment really threw me off...
I still say that it's simply a multiple-flashforward episode. Though, Jack ending up in another person's flashforward doesn't seem that out of the question considering he's flying on a plane 24/7 (in his depressed bearded state) and he's already showed up in two others :)
James doesn't need any more flashbacks. Sawyer is dead. Tampa job is irrelevant at this point. And only people who get off the island get flashforwards.
But I will be SO pissed if friggin KATE gets two. Ugh...
no clue about the GI Jack nickname either. Another Kateforward...i'm still hoping this is not the case.
I think it's pretty obvious that we don't need more Claire or Sawyer FB... we already know their stories... And this whole season is about the O6, so we do need more FF... And every FF features more that one character (Jack & Kate, Jack & Hurley, Sayid & Ben, Kate & Aaron, Sun & Hurley...
Glad that there is no Sawyer centric episode this season :D
we have sawyer haters here..sad sad sad...he will still be in the left behind plot on the island and i think will be featured very much in the last 5 episodes...i dont really see the need for a sawyer centric this season although i would love one but there is no reason to say that your glad because lets be honest..lost has been a lil dull with less sawyer, hurley and locke and ben in the first 8 episodes...
I'm no Sawyer hater myself... He is one of my fav characters along with Locke, Desmond, Ben, & Juliet. But the show is all about the future now... and Sawyer is not in it, so, no Sawyer this season, ;)
i dont think there is anything left to be told about Sawyer... im sure his fans like to see more of his past story no matter what but IMO we know everything we needed to know about him so it makes sense that we are not getting a Sawyer centric... i personally have no interest to see how his Tampa Job ended! i mean it wouldnt add anything new to the character and it wouldnt add anything interesting to the real plot of Lost!
besides im sure he will have a meaty story (finally) when Oceanic 6 will leave the island! Sawyer will be one of the characters that will tie us to the island in S5!
i agreed that a Kate centic would be unneccesary at this point... if it will be a multi centric episode where kate will show up but also other characters will be included, then its great but if it will be another full kate centric then i dont think im liking the sound of it!
i hope "jack showing up in a sayid centric is true... coz i would love to see Jack interacting with Sayid (and Ben) in the future... and if we are talking about the TTLG Jack then i bet his apperance will be about going back to the island!
What does 'GI Jack' mean, anyway? I know it indicates the FF drunken Jack, but what does 'GI' stand for?
I think it's a reference to a G.I. Joe look? I dunno, I don't get it.
I'm so excited about 4*09!
Jack Jack Jack Jack!!!
*does the boogie dance*
I want to know what GI stands for!
This season Sawyer is relegated to the role of an ancillary character - he's either playing horseshoe or is MIA. His story got wrapped up in "The brig" and if it hadn't been for the popularity of the character, I bet he'd be killed off.
That being said, I don't think he'll paly any important role in the remainder of the season.
And I'm not complaining about that at all! :))
Long time lurker, first time poster, so hello everybody! ;) Maybe the Kate-centric episode will be the one showing the reason why Aaron is with her instead of Claire. In any case, I personally believe that the only FB we are going see (and not specifically in this season) will be Others (included Ben), freighters related. As mush as I love Sawyer's character, I don't think we will see more FB about his backstory, and that goes for Claire and the other beachies too. That said, I believe they will be equally important to the O6 in the next season because of whatever happens to the island and the beachies.
Kate generally has the worst flash backs/forwards of any character so her getting another one (if true) is certainly bad news.
But people are kidding themselves if they think Sawyer is done as a character. He's in a transitional phase at present but if Season 5 is about some of the group being left on the island then he'll play a major role. I'd say TPTB's plan is to make him a fully fledged hero by season 6.
His absence this season has definitely been felt, and negatively so.
The "G.I. Jack" joke is definitely a generational thing. The original "G.I. Joe" action figures (before the 1980s versions) had these HUGE furry beards, and Jack's flashforward beard does indeed look like a G.I. Joe beard. But... if you aren't familar with these toys from the 1960s and 1970s... I can see how that reference would make no sense !
My theory as to why Sayid and Kate are getting double-centric episodes this season, while people like Claire and Sawyer are NOT getting theirs ? In season 5, with the Oceanic Six off the Island, the action will focus more on those ON THE ISLAND, so in season 5, the opposite focus will apply... Sawyer, Claire, Locke, etc will see more action, and so maybe THEY will get double centric episodes that season (and Kate and Sayid won't get as much attention). So... it may very well all balance out.
@gregdean
thanks for explaining!!
I had no clue, but no I've googled it and yes, there are a couple of pics where this GI Joe really looks like Jack!
It's called 'fuzzy head and beard'
with or without Kung Fu grip!
LMAO!
But GI Joe has actually blue eyes :D
The idea that Sawyer's story is over is shortsightedness at its best. The one thing this show does is upset illusions and expectations. I'm surprised at how many think the show is only about the future now. Do you really think all the great characters left behind on the island - Locke, Sawyer, Desmond, Juliet - aren't going to be THE important characters in the coming seasons.
If I had to choose I'd much rather see my favorite characters left behind on the island. That's where the action is going to be after this season. The set up of this season is starting to feel really dreary. I can't wait for them to get back to the exciting characters, especially Sawyer. They aren't keeping him because he's popular, they're keeping him because his future story is going to blow us all away.
It's interesting that they're bringing back Jack the Junky so soon. It means the backward motion of the FFs so far is being reversed.
damon said, S5 will be about why Oceanic 6 need to go back to the island, so it doesnt sound like they will be focusing more on the island and ignore the future stuff!
i will prefer to get both on island and off island episodes! without focusing one location ;)
What I don't understand about these rumours is that the FF's seemed to be going back in time (TTLG, TBOTE, The Economist, Eggtown, Ji Yeon), so I didn't expect to see G.I. Jack (lol) so soon...
IMO, if Kate is having another episode is because they need to show us something about Aaron.
Hatebox is right. Sawyer is in transition and I bet my leg he´ll play a very impotant rule in season 5. His story wasn´t finished with killing the real Sawyer. He needed to do this to free himself of his past and it´s now about which path he´ll choose for the future. To me it doesn´t look like the dark side and that´s why I believe that he´s on his way to become a hero.
Season 5 will show us both - how the O6 go back (and why) and the developpement on the island. At some point there´ll be a connection storywise, I guess. Otherwise it´s very complicate to combine the two storyarchs.
@gary: how do you know desmond and juliet will be left behind on the island? is there a spoiler that i missed? *shifty*
The island is the main character in the story, so whoever stays there will be the critical players. The off island stuff is only bearable now because we still have the story on the island. Once they get rescued, the off island stuff wont be about anything other than getting back to where the action is. Lost without the island has no reason to exist.
You can sort of see where they're going with the off island stuff by the way they're seperating all the romantic couples. Sun/Jin, Desmond/Penny, Sawyer/Kate, Jack/Juliet. That's a big clue, not an accident.
I won't believe that 4.10 is Kate until I see it with my own eyes. I just really don't think her having ANOTHER centric moves the story forward. It doesn't need to be her episode to see how she got Aaron.
@gary: how do you know desmond and juliet will be left behind on the island?
Just deductive reasoning. They aren't being shown off the island, so no reason to imagine they're off island as hidden people. They can't have been publically rescued because there would be no cover story for them.
Plus there's simple narrative logic to see that Desmond can't be reunited with Penny until the very end. The other three couples serve to bolster that theme.
@gary
LMAO @ some of your romantic couples of the show.
No Sawyer-centric?! That's just sick. :(
I actually wonder if Season 5 will have Flashbacks/forwards at all because it could quite easily just go between on-island and off-island and have enough story. Don't forget, the off-island will be 'real time' for the viewers because the season 4 finale will show them getting off.
Also, good point about the couples - they do seem to be getting deliberately separated. Drama has to have conflict, and they have to have a believable reason to want to go back.
Also, as if it needs to be said, the island should *always* be the focus. If Lost is about anything, it's about that. So yes, given that this season seems to be about the outside world more than ever, I hope next season would shift back to the island. TPTB said Jacob would be examined next season so that bodes well...
I like Kate episodes and i'm happy there's one more this season. Maybe we get to see how she ended up raising Aaron, or we might see what "Raised By Anoter" will really means.
Yay, Jack episode! Besides SIASL, his episodes are always great (TTLG!). Or multi-centric episode, works too :P! Maybe they are filming two episodes at the same time. Remember when we thought 4.01 was multi-centric?
I think the only Sawyer worth seeing story at this point would be his daughter. Clementine, isn't it? Sawyer was such a jerk to Cassidy, i'd love to see what happens next! Oh, i don't think there are Sawyer haters here, you could love a character, but you could hate his episodes.
Gary, the way i see, they're gonna bring us a Oceanic Six couple togeter, the real one :P!
I haven't got anything against Evie, but I can't stand another Kate Centric this season. I just hope episode 10 is a lot better than episode 4 was!!
Episode 9 sounds like its gonna b a multi - character centric with Jack & Sayid in it.
Thanks Dark & co
The Clementine story is mundane and uninteresting given the vast panorama of the story. You don't take a wild and charismatic character like Sawyer and reduce him to a deadbeat dad story. I think the big picture is how you look at a story like this. You can see that Jack and Kate are not being set up as a primary romantic couple because they already are together but keep manufacturing contrived reasons to stay apart. There's no passion or drama in that. All they have left for them is to have Kate sign Jack up at the rehab, not much entertainment value in that. So you can see who the main romances are by who is given the elements of grand romance. Separation is the key element to that, and the Des Penny romance is our cue to that.
I totally disagree with the thought that the island is the main character of this story, that designation would go to the Losties. I didn't sign on to this show to see if relegated to a freaking island.
That being said, it doesn't surprise me that Kate is getting another episode, I mean this season is supposedly about how they get off the island so that makes sense. But I'm hoping that if those that are "left behind" get some coverage in S5 and 6, showing us how they live on when the O6 are gone.
That being said, it doesn't surprise me that Kate is getting another episode, I mean this season is supposedly about how they get off the island so that makes sense. But I'm hoping that if those that are "left behind" get some coverage in S5 and 6, showing us how they live on when the O6 are gone.
I think it's obvious the island is the main character for this reason - you could take away any character from the story and it could continue. The one thing you can't take away is the island, because the story loses all purpose. The island is what defines Lost.
when sawyer said "there is nothing left for me in the real worl", you can tell that he was not considering his own daugther as a good reason to get off! so i guess there's nothing left to this story...
@elisabetta
LMAO @ some of your romantic couples of the show.
lmao! that was good :D
its also funny how some ppl can still think that all the circumstances are so avaliable for jack and kate and yet they're not together!
i mean WTF?
after watching 5 FF's so far, if one thing was certain that is "something is not right with this future"....
they're lying about how they survived and what happened after they survived... but why really?
they need to go back to the island... but why?
sayid is a murderer and works for ben... why? if its to protect his friends then which friends he is protecting- friends on island or the rest of the Oceanic 6?
jack will slowly become a drugaddict and he will realize that they have to go back...how will that happen?
why kate has Aaron and why does she pretend like Aaron is her child?
why Jack doesnt want to see Aaron?
What kind of a deal will Oceanic 6 make? and with whome?
and there are still millions of other questions, waiting to be answered and yet someppl say that everything is great for jack and kate but they're not together so that means they wont be together ever!
thats a logic i can never understand!
Ah, but Gary...
Even the flash-forwards have now proven that you CAN take the island away from the story and keep fans interested ;-) sure, we know they're going back to the island at some point (at least Jack is intent on doing so), but right now, the story is still going strong MILES away from "mystery, frickin' island".
@gary: i totally disagree abou Clementine and Jack and Kate. I'll not discuss about couples, because i could lead to a ship war, and i'm sick of that. I'll just quote one thing:
they already are together but keep manufacturing contrived reasons to stay apart.
This fits to Kate and SAwyer more tan anything. He even says: "you're just looking for a reason to split"! How long they can play house and ow long can Kate hit Sawyer because of his "woots"? I think there's way more issues and things to come to Kate and Jack. Just my opinion, as everyone is entitled to one :).
I think present Sawyer is kinda over the Clementine thing, and no way he could be reduced to a deadbeat dad story. The kid could be a con by Cassidy, which would be awesome to see, her revenge. I just find Clementine and Cassidy more appealing to watch than Tampa Job. Anyway, i won't be angry if there's no Sawyer episode this season, i like him, but not a fan of his episodes...
Take away the island, ie. just focus on the real world, and you have just another conspiracy show. The island is the source of mystery, and mystery is what I signed up for. That I like some of the characters intertwined with that mystery is just bonus.
so lets take all the characters out and we can sit and watch the island for 42 minutes every week!
the island is nothing if there are no characters around trying to discover its mystery!
and something tells me the mysteries of the island are not only limited with the island territory!
dont forget that the island can reach the losties in the real world!
No-one's suggesting we just want to watch the island with no characters on it. What I'm saying is that for me, the characters that interact on/with the island are interchangeable, but if the island itself can be counted as a character than it is not.
This discussion does seem slightly moot as we can safely say a few people are still left on the island and will be shown next season, and Jacob will be addressed as well. Ergo, the island will be shown
and there are still millions of other questions, waiting to be answered and yet someppl say that everything is great for jack and kate but they're not together so that means they wont be together ever!
thats a logic i can never understand!
Great point, and i also can't understand. So it should be like Kate doing this? "Hey Jack, you seen me in a cage with Sawyer, i might be pregnant, i might go to jail if we get off the island, we don't know if we are going to live tomorrow with those freighters out there, but hey, all that's bs we are making up, we get together NOW!"
The real romantic separation was back in season 3. Kate and Jack didn't have a choice. Now Sawyer went with Locke because he wanted, Kate went back to the beach because she wanted. Kate came back for Jack because she wanted.
The real romantic separation was back in season 3. Kate and Jack didn't have a choice. Now Sawyer went with Locke because he wanted, Kate went back to the beach because she wanted. Kate came back for Jack because she wanted."
Kate and Jack were separated for one week on island time,Kate and Sawyer will be for years. it's funny to compare the Jack\Kate separation with the separation that will happen for Sawyer and Kate and which will last at least to the end of season five.The absense makes the heart grow stronger. And the Jack\Kate fans may hate it, but it's not an accident as somebody else saied that Sawyer\Kate are separated as Jack and Juliet and Desmond and Penny.What that means we will see.
As for Sawyer im not woried at all.Im sure they will give him some storyline,as they did for Jack,Kate,Sayid....
Kate and Jack were separated for one week on island time,Kate and Sawyer will be for years. it's funny to compare the Jack\Kate separation with the separation that will happen for Sawyer and Kate and which will last at least to the end of season five.
Except with Jack, she barely lasted a few hours before she was packed and on her way to get him back. With Sawyer she seems fine living in Suburbia and not the least bit interested in going back.
It's funny people think that the whole thing is most importantly about the separated ships, whereas it is gonna turn out to be much much much bigger about who's pookie is left on the island.
"With Sawyer she seems fine living in Suburbia and not the least bit interested in going back."
She didn't seem too interested in jack in TTLG either.
Anyway, this has turned into a moronic shipper war. Again.
I like Kate's centrics maybe is the only way to see Sawyer more than a minute this strange season.
I MISS SAWYER A LOT!
She didn't seem too interested in jack in TTLG either.
true. But I was just commenting on the posters comparison of the two separations.
good im glad there isnt a sawyer related episode this season. havn't you all realized that sawyer is a walking time-bomb. ever since he killed cooper, his main problem and reason he was brought to the island has been fixed, so its only a matter of time before he kicks the bucket. the only thing he has left is kate. honestly has he served any purpose this season other then a couple one-liners here and there?
@hulk: i knew i would see a comment from you in a few :P! Anyway: Kate and Jack were indeed separated for one week, island time. But the minute she left, she wanted to go back for him. She risked her life to come back and rescue Jack. And then she left Sawyer at the beach. What happened in one week probably never happed in the Kate and Sawyer years separation. Until now, she seems to be pretty settled and living a good life wit Aaron. No traces of "I want to go back to the island for Sawyer", right? I believe she will go back with Jack and Aaron, but not specifically or in a romantic way for Sawyer. I think by that time is just Kate or Kate and Jack thing.
I agree with your thougts regarding Sawyer this season, though. Maybe he will get involved with all the "they want Ben" plot ;).
It's pretty obvious by now that Sawyer will be staying on the island and only those who get off the island are getting flash forwards...I'm sure we'll see more of him next season. If it jumps forward two years we'll probably see on-island flashbacks for him showing the "missing" two years.
I think we would have seen flashbacks for Charlotte, Daniel and Miles this season but of course we lost three episodes due to the writer's strike so they're just sticking to showing the Oceanic Six's flashforwards instead.
And yes, Kate looks upset in TTLG, but her invite for a visit in Eggtown was pretty blunt, and when Jack holds her and she closes her eyes...
This comment section has gone shipper, but it's Lost anyway, there are moronic theories and sci-fi comments too.
yeah kate and sawyer will be seperated for years after having an affair lasts 3 weeks!
but the great part is they could have stay together if they wanted to LOL! nothing is forcing them to seperate!
jack and kate seperated because of The Others! the theme of their seperation was "sacrifice" and it was painful for both!
death seperated sun and jin! even jin is alive, i believe that she is convinced that jin is dead because sun's tears and words were sincere in 407! and besides whats the point of visiting a grave and shedding tears if she thinks jin is dead!
the island didnt let desmond to leave so it was the other forces that seperated (and keeps seperating) desmond and penny! (i love desmond-odysseus paralels by the way...)
but in kate and sawyer's case freewill seperates them! sawyer wants to stay while kate wants to go!
I think this season is a kind of transition and this is why most of the interesting characters are almost missing. Well, I love Lost but this season is soooo hard to me, Sawyer is my favorite character and I'm waiting for him every episode.
I trust TPTB, I think they are building a great, great future for Sawyer, for sure.
I don't get the G.I. Jack reference either and I remember those dolls. Island Jack looks more like G.I. Joe than Junkie Jack does. While it would be kind of cool to see Jack and Sayid miserable together in the future, I don't believe Junkie Jack will be featured in in 4.09 unless it's just a brief scene like Hurley's appearance in Sun's episode, maybe both of them deciding it's time to go back and make things right.
If I'm going to be forced to sit through another Kate-centric piece of boredom please let her die. Season 4 has easily been Lost's weakest season IMO and they've got five hours left to wow us and leave us wanting more and I wish someone could make me understand how wasting another episode on anything to do with Kate is going to accomplish that.
". What happened in one week probably never happed in the Kate and Sawyer years separation."
We don't know in which conditions Kate will leave the island.Maybe she thinks he is dead or something else.But anyway it seems it's not good, from the FF in "TTLG".
"No traces of "I want to go back to the island for Sawyer", right? "
Keep im mind they couldn't show us if she misses him or she wants go back, because at that time we didn't know who were the other people who left the island( if you understand me what im trying to say).
It seems that luthien and elisabeta are the only ones that still believes in Jate. You are absurd, I can't see a couple so cold ...they are now together on the beach and there is not even a sight, they had been a lot of episodes together and never a huge or a kiss...they are siblings or something like that...No romantic love at all, just teenagers could see a kind of romantic thing between them.
Please be realistic, a couple is more as Sawyer and Kate are...Sex, fights, greats reunions.
It seems that luthien and elisabeta are the only ones that still believes in Jate.
pffft! whatcha talking about? there are actually 3 of us. Three delusional bubbleheads still unable to grasp the epic romance of Sawyer and Kate. Give us time, we'll grow out of this phase and see the light like the rest of you wise ones.
@yas said...@
It seems that luthien and elisabeta are the only ones that still believes in Jate.
pffft! whatcha talking about? there are actually 3 of us. Three delusional bubbleheads still unable to grasp the epic romance of Sawyer and Kate. Give us time, we'll grow out of this phase and see the light like the rest of you wise ones.
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Make us 4 !!!!
@yas
lmao!you just made my day!
and yeah we are only 3 *shifty* (just like you guys are only 2 LOL)
In a truncated season, I think it'd be no surprise if Sawyer didn't get an episode. The show is using such a momentum now that a Sawyer flashback would just seem odd.
Sawyers' one of my faves, but unless something in his past has some impact on future events, I can't see how it could be justified. Heck, even Locke may not get an episode. That's your fate if you stay on the island this season.
It'l be awesome to see Jack in that timeline between the Hurley and Kate flash-forwards and his broken state in TTLG :)
Do we really need another Kate flash?
If Aaron starts to tell Kate his granddaddy wants them to go to the island with Uncle Jack, then it would be good.
More Bushy Bearded Jack is good, more of Soccer Mom Kate is bad.
@hulk: you got a point. But i think it would be ridiculous if Kate tinks Swyer is dead. I highly doubt TPTB will throw that one. We don't know 100% of the future situation, but we got a good idea of what it is. Kate is much more mature and she does NOT want to go back. She says she was supposed to leave. Period!
@venus: you're wrong one more delusional here! That makes four! Now talking for real, i believe we, who come here to fansites to talk about LOST, are not a big slice of the millions show viewers. Anyway, everything was doing fine, Jaters like me, Luhien, and Elisabetta discussing with Skaters, like hulk, with respect and like civilized people. You just seem to want to provoke. WTG on showing your opinion. I won't get down to it!
and yeah we are only 3 *shifty* (just like you guys are only 2 LOL)
LMFAO! Guess it's five now... versus 2!
OMG! 5 jaters???
you gotta be kidding me *shifty* thats a huuuge number!
Oceanic 6 Jater here! Lol, i cracked up reading this section!!!
Great news, GI Jack(lol) and Kate centric episode!
I believe that in the end Kate will go for Sawyer.
Jack confessed to her that he loves her. Sawyer never did, though she knows he does. The day he´s giving her that commitment she´ll do it too.
@kmarg: actually, he already did, remember "I Do"? Kate did noting to do it to er...
I can't help reading the first few lines and thinking that bearded Jack was seen on the beach. Now that would be a sight.
2 or 5 jaters, you are always the same and talking about the same thing, and one more thing, you are always here..don't you have a life? I'm here once a week or even less and you are always here.
As has been said many times before, having both Jack and Kate back home but not together completely negates a dramatic tension.
But I'd find it funny if she ended up picking either of them. At the moment it seems her choice is Aaron.
woops, I meant to say "picking NEITHER of them"
A sawyer centric, since we're mostly dealing with FF's now to get us caught up on how the 06 get off the island, would reveal the BIG SECRET of who lives past the season finale.
That would not be cool.
They will focus more on them next season I am sure. As it will be a why the 06 need to get back season, which I know will have to show us FF on island stuff.
@vlaaf
You´re right, though that one was kind of ironic to overplay his dissapointment imo.
Still I believe that this was all to give more importance to the moment she´ll confess her love one day. And somehow I don´t belive that it will be to Jack.
But to whom ever she will, it won´t be soon, that´s for sure. I wonder why she doesn´t want to go back. Is Claire still alive and on the island? Is Kate afraid of loosing Aaron? If it wouldn´t be for him, I don´t think that Kate would hezitate to help her friends, right?
lmao!
werent you the one who started this venus...
with your awesome line: "It seems that luthien and elisabeta are the only ones that still believes in Jate"
it was fun tho *rollseyes*
I'm Skater too.Luthien you have to count one more. And I'm agree, Jate is a kind of kids first love...just a sight or a smile.Pfffffffffff! Non sense in a show for adults.
Jate, no way. You better go with Jacket.
ofcourse! if they dont jump eachother they're kids! :)
oh and you should give your number to venus... she's doing sums LOL!
anyways i just hope that this rumor is true! its good to see jack in other ppl's FF's!
and if kate is getting a FF then probably its going to be about how she gets Aaron! we might get a second reunion between 2 groups!
Obviously if Sawyer doesn´t have a flashback this season is a collateral damage of the strike.
And when the writers began to use flashforwards they displaced the importance of the flashbacks. And even before, some (a lot) of the flashbacks were completely unnecesary (it's not neccesary to name examples, isn't it?).
But I have always been more interested in what was happening in the present/island.
So, I have no problems with Sawyer no getting a fb, even if I am interested in knowing more about him (not neccesarily about the Tampa job or his daughter, because this is fiction, and the writers have a blank paper in front of them to write great stories about the past, future and present of whoever).
And we have two more seasons that they have to fill with something interesting.
Having said that, I just hope that the story moves faster than in the previous eight episodes and knowing that we wont probably have a flasforward of my favourite characters (Sawyer, Locke and Desmond), I still have hope of a little on island flashforward in the last minutes of this season.
Hurley's holding the baby (so to speak) in the last promo. Maybe that's how he becomes Oceanic 6, rescuing Aaron? I think either Darlton or Jorge Garcia mentioned another heroic Hurley moment.
It'd put some perspective on his chat with Jack in the premiere too. "I'm sorry I went with Locke" ...cos y'know, a kid nearly died and everything.
i think something really bad will happen to the ppl who had chosen to go with Locke! and i mean something more than "a kid nearly died" kinda thing... :(
Well, it seems from the previews that Otherville gets attacked by... some people, so that's a no brainer. I don't think Hurley thought Locke was wrong to stay, it was more that the group was just unlucky enough to have ben who certain parties wanted.
*waves* bubblehead jate fan n.7 here.
not really sure why this turned into a jate debate but hey,
the funny thing is that we could really be just 7,but J&K would end up together anyway. amusing uh?
oh hey count me in, Jater number 8. But I am so busy and will just say, Good to see the beard will be back I was hoping Sayid would see him like that. Sayid's always been the one give the strategy to Jack so hopefully they'll figure out they need something to do.
Sayid working for Ben will really help that We have to go Back thing IMO.
@drake: we are growing very fast! im scared *shifty* LOL
@hatebox: i know that the barracks will get attack by someppl but i was trying to say that if it was just Team Locke being unlucky, Hurley wouldnt have said "im sorry i went with Locke"
how would he know, right?
he could have said "we shouldnt have gone to the barracks... that was a bad idea" but no, he said he was sorry he went with Locke (and not Jack)
jack warned them about Locke... he said he's crazy but they didnt listen to him... im guessing that Locke will prove Jack right and thats why Hurley was saying "sorry"
The writers wouldn't have Hurley be that specific. Saying he wished he went with Jack was purposefully ambiguous for dramatic effect to the viewers keep watching to see why it was a bad idea.
I wouldn't be too quick to tie the freighter's hostilities in solely with Ben's presence either. We just saw Rousseau and Karl take bullets and Ben was nowhere to be seen. Those three people could have been Jack's buddies on a day hike for all they knew.
Of course it's not conclusive yet who the shooters were but the smart money is on freighties.
@venus
why do you have to be so rude and aggressive in your posts?
Do you even keep track of how much time other people spend on this site?
If it makes you happy, then do it.
And it's obious that you honestly get upset about the Jate/Skate stuff...
Heh Skater here!.I think Jack\Kate have feelings but not strong feelings as Sawyer\Kate. Sawyer\Kate love each other a lot,im my personal opinion!
"Kate is much more mature and she does NOT want to go back. She says she was supposed to leave. Period!"
Truth, but again we still don't know in which conditions they left.And it's realy intresting, because you know olnly Kate think's from the "Oceanic six" that they did the right thing.
Sparkes: You are my captain obvious of the day... the article claimms to be rumors all over it.
What I'm really trying to figure out is why is ODI sourcing himself for being the first to copy and paste my entire article? Blog on blog copying is called: content theft.
I dont understand Doc's concern(s) here... this article is plainly credited to DocAtrz at the top of the article, both here and on ODI site. (both also linking back to Doc's site). It isnt "theft" if the originator is credited, its called "News".
I also dont recall DocArtz having "bad" info any more often than anyone else... I take ALL spoilers as rumors until D&C say it or its on an episode anyway.
The "Ego battles" of which writer got the info first, is almost as annoying as the shipper debates...
.....sigh....
Dark seems refreshingly without ego when it comes to scoops and whatnot :)
Where is he btw? I haven't seen a bright red posting in ages.
assassin - dark suffered a death in the family. you can see the post on the homepage but i agree his spoilers get posted everywhere and he never complains
TheLoneAssassin said...
Dark seems refreshingly without ego when it comes to scoops and whatnot :)
I agree, which is why i come here instead of "other sites".
Thanks Jenny, I can't believe I missed that.
Here's to his quick return.
I would like to thank The ODI for helping Dark out in these difficult days, and I think it's quite clear in the post that he got that information from DocArzt blog...
I am just thankful Dark doesn't openly whine for money all the time, unlike other Lost bloggers.
haha no there is no Sawyer haters here at alll... there is just jack lovers and jaters whose heads are so far up ther arse they dont know what to do anymore...i like jack but c'mon you do realize that a large population of this show are fans of sawyer and his comedy and charisma or w/e....i know ive been less interested in lost w/out the locke camp...my opinion is that jate is over lol or maybe it never started
dude doc,
you have some serious issues dude....
i LINKED YOUR BLOG before the quoted info....and did the exact same thing on my blog....where I posted you as the “source”….
btw i first posted your info on my blog and then later came here to notice it was not posted yet….then posted it here…
i am not “stealing” your content....i did exactly what you and EVERY other blogger does...if we copy info and post it, then we link it back to the source....via thanks or a “source:”….
so i think you accusing me of content stealing is F ing stupid….i am helping to spread the word about what you have posted….if you do NOT want your info posted else where then please let me know…
now whether something is a rehash of previous spoilers filled with rumors or not….is a different issue….
at the same time, as many of dark’s readers know, he is away for personal reasons and he has asked a few of his trustworthy friends to help him out with his site while he is away…..
if you wanted to be listed as the “source” all you have to do is email or message me like anyone else….
all i have ever done is extend a friendship as a fellow lost blogger to you but yet you feel some need to always bash me any chance you get….what is the deal brotha’…!?
i am not doing this as a job nor am i perfect….so from time to time i can make mistakes…so if you even felt i made a mistake there is a way to handle it….
thanks
odi
venus said...
2 or 5 jaters, you are always the same and talking about the same thing, and one more thing, you are always here..don't you have a life? I'm here once a week or even less and you are always here.
It's none of your concern, but i have a job, friends, family, i study and i'm getting married next year. I have a life, and Lost is a part of my life, i come here to Dark's site every day and i love it. You should be the one who needs one life, you're wasting you're time bashing Jaters, when our fellow skaters do the same: talk about a couple. It's no waste of time discussing about Lost couples, but getting worked up like you did definetly is. You started your angry Jater counting, but we laughed about it. Sorry, just get over it!
here is just jack lovers and jaters whose heads are so far up ther arse they dont know what to do anymore...
Here is just Sawyer lovers and Skaters hose heads are so far up ther arse they dont know what to do anymore...
Also fits perfectly, dont you think?! And we all know the riangle is not over...
We'll see ;)!
@hulk: yeah, we have just to wait and see what happens :D!
The source is always posted before or after articles on this site, so I don't see why Doc's panties are in a knot.
Don't worry ODI, we love you <33
People who ask 'Don't you have a life?' more often than not are lacking one themselves.
I freely admit that I spend way too much time here but I'm also a great multi-tasker so it's all good. No one has accused me of neglecting them yet :)