Thanks to Aslanscubs for the following filming update.
Note: The poster is speculating about Desmond being in the coffin as they never actually saw him. However, it still means that if it is not Desmond in the coffin that he is off the Island and may have been visiting the person in the coffin.
The mind boggles.
From a post by at Survivor Suck:
They are filming at the same funeral home as end of last season when Jack went alone to the funeral home and no one else was there....Kate's response as to why she didn't go was "Why would I go?" as if she hated the person in the coffin. Now, they are obviously filming the final episode for this season, same place and the only star to be seen...hold on to your hats....is DESMOND! in suit and tie, hair pulled back...it couldn't possibly be Desi in the coffin could it? That makes no sense! Oh yeah, right, this is LOST...but if it is Desmond in the coffin, what could he have done to piss Kate off so much? Why did he die alone and no one cared....he wasn't one of the Oceanic Six...so much to ponder...
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OMG !
Let me just say this...
Desmond better not be in that coffin. NO! NO! NO! NO!
No way in hell its Des in the coffin. If Desmond dies... well, I was going to say I'll stop watching Lost, but I won't, because lets face it I'm an obsessive fan.
Still, if he's the one in the coffin, I can't see any way they could twist the plot so it wouldn't feel massively forced and out of place, and the show would seriously go down in my estimation.
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Unlikely, in my opinion, but we'll see.
I hope it's a hoax!
Actually, it would make sense if he was in the coffin. That would be why he's dressed in a suit and tie adn his hair back nice. They usually clean you up before your placed in the coffin.
What if Sayid is in the coffin and Desmond visits him because he's the one who put him in the coffin.
So then it's Michael in the coffin after all, right?
Desmond is still with Michael on the freighter and he calls for him in the promo. Maybe they work together in the last episodes of the season and Desmond shows his respect by going to Michaels funeral.
Plausible. Des chooses Penny over helping the rest of them somehow.
But Dark, this really should have a major spoiler warning, I'm not sure if I wanted to read this if its true.
@sanna
That is the most likely scenario, and the one I'm hoping for.
The mind has never boggled as much :/
OK, if the unthinkable is true and it is Desmond in the box, why would Jack be so upset? They've hardly shared any significant scenes. Why would Kate be so indifferent? I know she's cold but that would be really cold.
The name that I'm thinking of is...Sayid.
Desmond and Sayid have become quite close this season due to their experiences on the freighter.
Dark, just wondering why you put this in spoilers and not rumors? It's a reliable source? Just wanted to make sure. Thanks for all your hard word.
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OMG!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
But if he´s in the coffin where´s Penny?
@ Sanna
I hope you´re right.
Either Michael or Sayid is in the coffin.
Sorry, but my heart just stopped beating ...
Okay, if Desmond is at the funeral, how is he in the coffin?
And don't hold me to this, but I THINK Aloha Oe is Ryan Ozawa. I heard that somewhere a long time ago. So that might be why this is a reliable source.
And why wouldn't Kate want to go to Sayid's funeral?
ben sends sayid to kill penny. desmond kills sayid and visits his victim :-)
agree with sanna 100%
It's logical... Des had no family...
I wouldn't be pissed off if it was him but LOST would certainly lose one of his most interesting character...
They better not kill Desmond.
He is by far the best character on the show right now and maybe the best actor with the only competition coming from Michael Emerson.
I can't see what sequence of events would lead to Desmond being in the United States dead with Kate hating him. Furthermore, Jack has a connection with him, but I don't think he'd be that emotion. He'd be far more emotional over someone like Michael or Sayid. He might even be emotional if it was Ben... just a different kind of emotion.
Though one thing that has got me thinking is how the funeral dude asked Jack if he's friend of family. Unless Jack was adopted he couldn't be family to Michael or Sayid.
Dark, just wondering why you put this in spoilers and not rumors? It's a reliable source? Just wanted to make sure. Thanks for all your hard word.
Yep, very reliable source. They are based on the Island and have provided filming spoilers for the first 4 seasons.
Remember that they did NOT see Desmond in the Coffin only on the set.
Jack could be family, like an in-law or a step brother or something. Family doesn't necessarily mean blood relation.
I still think it's Michael. Michael and Des are still on the boat together, and crisis is approaching. They could work together significantly in the last 3 hours of the show, we don't know. And Desmond is a sweetie-pie. If he's off-island and he knows the guy, he'll be at the funeral, I suspect.
This pretty much eliminates Ben, wouldn't you say? I'd say Sayid and Locke (just picking two that have been widely speculated on) cannot be eliminated based on this tidbit, though, since Desmond worked closely with both of them.
Must admit I wish I hadn't seen this. The spoilers so far have been so innocuous, I let my guard down!
Anything Desmond/funeral related would surely be happening in Scotland. Why L.A.? And he's a popular guy, there would be mourners, chief among them Penny.
I've convinced myself it isn't Des. And I'm halfway convinced it's either Michael or Sayid. Mike could somehow play a major role in his reunion with Penny and Desmond feels that he owes him that respect. Sayid because they have a bond and a possible refusal to kill Penny may have led to his death.
I still think it's Michael. Michael and Des are still on the boat together, and crisis is approaching. They could work together significantly in the last 3 hours of the show, we don't know. And Desmond is a sweetie-pie. If he's off-island and he knows the guy, he'll be at the funeral, I suspect.
This pretty much eliminates Ben, wouldn't you say? I'd say Sayid and Locke (just picking two that have been widely speculated on) cannot be eliminated based on this tidbit, though, since Desmond worked closely with both of them.
Must admit I wish I hadn't seen this. The spoilers so far have been so innocuous, I let my guard down!
If it's not Ben or Michael in that coffin, then I will be really pissed off. Desmond should not die, he is one of the favorite characters in the show.
#1 - You can always trust people to fly off the handle and start shouting doomsday warnings about how the Lost writers have made some huge mistake.
A character death of this magnitude wouldn't be so contrived and forced. Give them time to lead you up to it.
#2 - If you really think by now that killing a character equals never seeing a character again or the character losing importance, then check your local TV guide for this show called Lost that you haven't been watching.
#3 - Dark has said numerous times that if you don't want to be spoiled, don't visit the SPOILER SECTION.
If Michael helps O6 and Desmond to get off the Island, I'm sure Desmond would be grateful to Michael and could go to his funeral
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Pls don't let it be Des!!! Maybe I can cope with Sayid being in there if it means he's not!!!
ok, had a minute to calm down...T.L.A's point makes sense why would Jack be so upset and Kate so cold when (thus far) he and Des have not had a great deal to do with each other?
If Kate new Sayid was helping Ben that would explain the coldness. Oh no I have had a suspicion it was Sayid for ages and then the Michael rumour made me feel a bit better but yesterday I was with my friend who also loves Lost and I told her I still had a nagging feeling it was him :(
But obv quadruple :( if it's Des!
Maybe he's there because Locke is in the coffin? And paying his respects to the man who helped him in the hatch by baning on the door in ' Deus Ex Machina'.
Calm down people... Des is the last guy left on the freighter with Michael. As I said Demond surley pays his respect by going to Michaels funeral.
That's why Jack is sad and Kate cold; they know Michael and Kate cant forgive him for killing Ana and Libby and turn the rest of them over to The Others.
My prediction is that it is Michael in the coffin. Des visits due to the brief time of bonding on the freighter. Jack is upset because Michael knew how to get back to the island. Kate is indifferent because she is pissed about A-L and Libby getting killed. No one else visits for the same reason as Kate. Ben visits in secret.
I DAMN HOPE THEY DONT KILL BROTHA!
But I agree with sanna, this make a lot more sense. Michael dead explains kate anger and, since the island dindt protect him, explains (in part) why Jack wants to go back. The people in the island may be in danger.
Its Michael in the coffin. I agree with Sanna. Michael & Desmond became good friends on the Freighter. He's just visiting Michael after he finally met Penny. I know he's not part of the Oceanic 6 but he must have visit that coffin around the similar time Jack visited the coffin right?
Besides Desmond's storyline isn't over, he has to meet Penny before he dies & there's all the Ben/Widmore thing going on.
Also Desmond is one of the fan favourites!!
I'm sticking with Michael... it's only "not a suprise" to people like us. Sayid is a Muslim, he would not be buried in such a way. Desmond probably became close to Michael during the final three hours of this season... also, I don't think it makes much sense for Desmond to be buried in LA. Why would he relocate there? The bigger question is: How did Desmond get off the island?!?! Does he hook up with Penny in the final, help her rescue the O6, and return to the mainland as if he was one of Penny's assistants instead of a "Lostie"? This would also explain the "big kiss."
I agree with sanna...Michael is in the coffin and Desmond shows his respects. We could have another cool Jack/Desmond scene that parallels when they first met at the stadium as well.
The only way I see Desmond dead is if Sayid finds and is ordered to kill Penny, and Desmond goes in the middle to save Penny ultimately eating a bullet. That would explain why Sayid doesn't go to his funeral, he would feel terrible after that.
Any other scenario than this would leave me dissatisfied over Des' death.
Well, I think Michael is in the coffin, but...
I could imagine Des dying to save Penny. And Kate could be so cold because she has gone into complete denial by the time of her airport meeting with Jack, and she doesn't want anything intruding on her little fantasy world.
awesomecoolderek said...
Penny in the final, help her rescue the O6, and return to the mainland as if he was one of Penny's assistants instead of a "Lostie"? This would also explain the "big kiss."
Yes, that's true.
But... Didn't Darlton say that The Spectacular Kiss would complicate the triangle? Hmm...
This would point to Michael more than anything. Desmond would go see him because of the time they were on the freighter together, Kate would hate him for allowing them to get kidnapped. Jack is depressed because somehow he figured Michael factored in to being able to get back to the island.
I dont think its desmond
i dont think its sayid (remember..sayids muslim, and he wud possibly have a funeral similar to nadia's funeral in ep 4.09)
i have a suspicion it can be Michael (small chance) but high possibility its Ben
There are two posibilities... Either he is in the coffin, or he is there to visit the person in the coffin. Could be hours or minutes later after Jack leaves...
Any chance the actor is just visiting the set?
Desmond in the coffin makes no sense whatsoever.
as per the cast list, with Michael's mother and Walt set to appear in the finale, i think chances are good that it's Michael who's in the coffin.
I agree completely that Sayid would not be buried in this fashion and would have people attending his funeral. He's going back after his people on the raft; surely any anger they'd have for him would be set aside by his obvious INTENT to rescue them.
Desmond would have mourners, chiefly Penny if she's alive, and if not, WIDMORE would probably go just to tie up loose ends!
Why is everyone sure that the one in the coffin is one of our castaways what if the person in the coffin is someone (somehow) related to desmond... maybe penny(im only guessing with a hope that the one in the coffin isn't des)
I wonder if the surprising thing here is not who is in the coffin - I still think that's Michael, and Walt and Mrs. Dawson in the credits seem to point to that - but the fact that Des is able to visit him. Which would mean Des doesn't obviously get off the island during the episode, and we would be left pondering why he is able to show up in LA for the hiatus.
Seriously, wouldn't that be a nice WTF? moment?
Think back to the end of season 3, with Jack reading the newspaper article. A segment of the article claimed the deceased to have survived by one teenage son. By that time in the future, Walt will have been a teenager.
So, what with Walt and Michael’s mother set to appear in the finale episode, it could only possibly be Michael in the coffin.
This saddens me, because I like Michael.
I don't get it that people are worried about their favorite character being in the coffin...
The funeral is set in 2007, so whoever it is, they're still most likely gonna be around for the next couple of seasons.
That said, It would be cool if it is Desmond, would give him an interesting plot-line for season 5....how he became hated by everyone (or at least Jack and Kate!)
One thing that no one has mentioned yet in this thread:
Let's not forget that possibly the best episode this season ended with "If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant."
It has already been confirmed that the 4 main freighties won't get their spotlights until next season.
I guarantee you, the way they've been unraveling the story now, they would not just pull that out of their butts with no idea where the payoff is. Especially an episode-ender.
THAT'S going somewhere. So Desmond lovers at least have some kind of resolution of that to look forward to.
@ dharmageddon: come on, des got penny pregnant on the island and off island the kid grows at a quadruple rate compared to normal kids ;-)
with lost - nowadays more than ever - anything can happen...
@comans
Dark has also said he would hide big stuff behind extra warnings, like he did with the episode pics of the finale.
There's a difference between coming here to check out press releases, promos, tidbits, and reading who is off-island and *possibly* dead.
I have a bad feeling it could be Des. Michael might be in the coffin, but I don't think so. Walt and the grandmother will be in the finale because Darlton stated that we would know "exactly" what happened in the time between Michael leaving the island up until the time he got to NY.
Why would Michael be buried in LA as opposed to NY? That's the problem I have with it. Surely Jack would tell Walt about his father's death.
I don't see it being Ben, either. There is far too much story to tell in the Widmore vs. Linus tale, and I just don't see them killing off a character that is at the heart of the island.
I think it will either be Desmond or Locke. Desmond makes the most sense right now. I think that he could be rescued by Penny, and then die to save her. It would be a huge loss, and one that might ruin the show for me. He is the only character up to this point who has maintained my respect as a human being. (aka not a drug addict, murderer, etc.) And the romance part of it I really have to cheer for with Penny.
So, I hope it's Locke. No family, buried in California, and so that makes sense. But my money is on Desmond, actually. They give a character an endearing episode before they wipe them out (see Charlie for example), and so I have a feeling that it will be Des.
I hope not though.
Eh, I still say it's Michael, simply for the line in the newspaper clipping at the end of season three that alluded to "survived by a teenage son". That anybody knows of thus far, Desmond has no children. Not to mention that he was on relatively good terms (up until now) with everyone on the beach, where Michael spent the first two seasons basically being a cranky dick, and then to top it all off, murdered two of them and gave up 4 of them to the others. Desmond spent some time on the freighter WITH Michael, so there may have been some personal connection between the two, but there's more consistency to the Michael angle (at least at this point) than Desmond.
CanaDharma-
Des did have family. He dropped out of the Royal Shakespeare Academy to raise his little brothers. Apart from family, there's also Penny and the friend who he spoke with about time travel at the London pub. Also, Desmond's funeral would be in either London or Scotland.
dj (david jones)-
I think this spoiler just adds more weight to Michael being in the coffin. Jack went to the funeral because he is distraught that the only person he knew who was able to leave the island and return is now dead. None of the other 06 show up because they haven't forgiven Mike for what he did.
Desmond, on the other hand, is emotionally detached from the situation. His only experience of Michael is as the guy who helps him out w/ the rescue on the freighter (which we'll see in the finale).
As to Mike being in LA, his mother said that he couldn't see Walt until he told her what happened. Mike still doesn't have it in him to confess, so he stays in LA. Now that he's accomplished his task, "the island" will let him die, and he hangs himself.
Fabio said...
ben sends sayid to kill penny. desmond kills sayid and visits his victim :-)
I AGREE WITH FABIO!
And david jones is right.
it's not micheal for two reasons.
1. the obvious, which people tend to forget about, is what david jones just stated.
2. it's been built up waaaaay too much to be micheal. it will be what people expect since so many people seem to have a death wish for the guy.
mike's too obvious. it's desmond!
CORRECTION:
It's sayid. not desmond.
OMG Desmond gets off the Island!
I'm sure he's not the one in the coffin (maybe not so sure but in denial).
I still think it's Michael or possibly Ben.
webbsta said: The funeral is set in 2007, so whoever it is, they're still most likely gonna be around for the next couple of seasons.
I don't know for sure, but I think season 5 timeline will be after TTLG.
Hmmm...from this source, i reckon its PENNY in the coffin...?
I, for once, hope that Michael is not the one in the coffin.
I don't hate the character and hope for his redemption. If Sawyer could, so can Michael.
@Sarah: convincing argument!
And besides, if they just wanted to film him in a coffin, why do that on location? Why not go into a studio, where it is less likely that HIC will be spotted and connected to the funeral?
I'm with sanna - his explanation makes the most sense.
Citing that it must be Desmond because Michael would be buried in New York and not Los Angeles is pretty much the most brainless thing ever uttered on this site.
WHY WOULD DESMOND BE BURIED IN LOS ANGELES?
I hope it's Michael or Sayid. Desmond... I don't know but Jack is not friends or family and he said he isn't. Michael would be very predictable. With Kate... Maybe it's Desmonds fault only 6 got off the island.
What if Desmond goes to the funeral only to see himself in the coffin!
I wonder if he would look at his face in the coffin and say "See you in another life, brother."
I think they don't like desmond because he lied about claire getting on the helicopter, just to save himself
I believe Desmond only discussed his visions, or at least that one in particular, with Charlie so I don't think anyone would hold it against him.
I'm convinced the only reason Henry Ian Cusick was at the scene of the Hoffs/Drawlar building was to film him entering the door. He's a visitor, not a fixture.
OH PLEASE GOD NO!
Desmond is my absolute favorite. That would ruin the show for me.
But I don't think NO ONE would go to his funeral. At very least Penny would be there. And as someone mentioned above, why would Desmond be buried in LA? Widmore knows that he's on the boat. Penny know that he's on the boat. I can't really connect the dots.
And what I'm praying for is...just because Desmond is there doesn't mean that he is dead. Perhaps he pays his respect after Jack leaves.
And also I heard something last season that it was supposed to be Locke in the coffin but the didn't show who it was at the last moment. Obviously it's probably different now.
And why would Jack want to kill himself over Desmond?
Also it it was supposed to be Desmond in the coffin all along, if they had show that last season would it have been as big of a shock if it was Michael or Sayid?
I don't know.
I'm praying for you...brotha.
Wait, wait, wait! Have we all forgotten that Desmond time travels? Could this be why he's there? I'm not freaking over this because D&C said in a recent interview that we would find out more about Des and Penny over the summer (they'll resume filming after July 4th) depending on Sonyna's shooting schedule. He's not in the coffin and I'll be the shoot has nothing to do with the coffin since we know already that no one but Jack showed up for the service.
desmond is probably just visiting his friend...keemy, which he had to kill to reunite with penny and prove his worth to mr. widmore. desmond will save them all, again.
ok i haven't read all your comments, so maybe what i'm about to say has already been said, but i'm not really surprised myself by this spoiler.
i had already thought of this option. when i saw the article that jack was reading in the plane about john latham, it was obvious that we hadn't already met this guy and that it was a fake name. everybody was thinking michael, me too. but afterwards, when people pointed put that it would be lame if michael was the two mystery guys of the season (man on the boat + man in the coffin), i thought of who else it could be, and the only ohter person that would have had his name changed for a funeral was desmond.
i'm personally convinced he's gonna get off the island, so why not, even if it would be heartbreaking cause he's a great character and he surely doesn't deserve it.
so i'm not convinced it's michael, i'm not convinced it's desmond either, i wouldn't understand if that was penny (what kind of name is john for a woman), so basically i haven't made up my mind yet but still, i'm not surprised by this rumour/spoiler.
only one thing is sure: lost rocks!
I think the dialogue towards the end of 'The Constant' drew a line under Desmond's time-travelling shenanigans. I'd be amazed if they dug it up again.
He could well have visited after Jack left. In fact, knowing Lost, I wouldn't be surprised if Jack was pictured driving off just as Des arrives.
If Des is on that coffin, and this is the only way I can digest it, is if it is a Ben's trick to attract Penny or something... but then I think, why would the funeral take place at the USA? Why is Jack so affected? and, at the same time, why wouldn't Kate want to go? Is he going to do something bad? I don't think so... I think Desmond will be definitely visiting Michael's grave or something like that.
I also refuse to think the one could be Sayid :(
Dark, this better not be true. This is way to big of a spoiler, perhaps the biggest that I have ever had spoiled for myself and you should have not posted it in the way that you did.
I hope this isn't true.
Fabio's comment above about Ben sending Sayid to kill Penny sounds right.
But I think this may be the Vader vs. Emperor moment for Sayid and he kills Ben instead and Ben kills him.
So the body in the coffin is Ben or Sayid. I can see no reason why Sayid would be in L.A. at the time of his death, nor can I guess why Desmond might be going to Hoffs Drawler if Ben did indeed order the hit on Penelope.
Either way I can't see the show killing a viable, beloved character like Desmond right now. That'd make three straight UK residents whacked (not counting Alex): Charlie, Naomi and Desmond. I really doubt it's Desmondo in there.
Damon and Carlton did say something about how after the finale you would have a clearer picture of Desmond's storyline for Season 5... which is the only thing I can think of to validate this. As far as some random street walker spotting this filming, I think they would have higher security. I mean, they shot the finale in top, top secret. So secret that no one on the show even knew about it. I am betting that Desmond shows up and that the person in the coffin was either filmed in a studio or more secretively.
Maybe the person who is said to be in the coffin actually isn't. If Jack had asked the dude at the funeral home to open the coffin, then he would have noticed that a different body is in the coffin than the person who is supposed to be dead. Maybe the person who is supposed to be dead had a faked death so they would be off the radar when it comes to dealing with Widmore and whoever else is the enemy.
After calming down from being IRATE after reading, I have come to several conclusions.
1) The man from the parlon in TTLG is credited for part 1, not 2 and 3 which is what they would be filming now (if indeed they still are). I have a feeling that the reveal about the coffin is in part 1.
2) Story wise, Desmonds death would be too much of a bad taste in the mouth of both die hard but esp. casual fans who would easily write the show off and not watch anymore. D&C's ultimate goal is to please the fans.
3) There are many reasons why he was there. MANY.
I find the chance that he's in the coffin to be 0.
some of ya'll need to calm down.. lolz... Desmond WONT be in the coffin.. id put my entire bank account on that fact.. absolutely no way in HELL it's Desmond in the coffin.. not to mention.. do you REALLY think they would film scenes THAT public and THAT obvious?! come on! if they were to reveal who was in the coffin.. they would have it on some closed set... somewhere else.. this will be a HUGE reveal for who is in the coffin.. so they're not just gonna have Desmond running around the set all dressed up and then have him jump into the coffin.. lmfao... no way in HELL they would have something like this so public.. when they reveal who's in the coffin.. it will be a closed set with hardly ANYONE around to see the scene....
Monkstro I agree completely.
ok ok ok
here we go again
i dont think any losties can be in that coffin, none of the o6 can die atleast not now. micheal cant die the island isnt done with him. he was there to stop the frieghter and widmore not save the o6, and seeing as how jack got sick and raises aaron the island doesnt want him to do any of that. so micheal still probably has work to do for the island and ben/locke whoever is in charge.
i think that daniel faraday is in the coffin. i always said that the funeral director lied to jack saying no one else came. plenty came, 1 by 1, and jack is upset because it means he wont be returning to the island anytime soon like he wants, desmond watches his constant in a coffin and thanks him for saving his life.
remember when we first saw daniel he was crying........ but why, he knew this was the beginning of the end of his life. and in daniels notebook he wrote that des would be his constant. he probably died looking for desmond in the future because he kept jumping back and forth and needed his constant to keep him in place.
and kate would hate him because he didnt help them escape, he only lied to them about the rescue, so kate has no interest in ever seeing him again.
and jack, poor poor jack, wants to return sooooo bad, daniel death means its harder to return.
wonder how daniel flashed to the future to die in the first place huh?
its daniel faraday, remember u heard it here first.
place my bet, i got the house riding on that one
it better not be him. the thing is, he might just be dressed up for a funeral. but at least hes off the island!
ok for many reasons, it can't be desmond.
so even if it is an option, i don't think desmond will be the one in the coffin.
Desmond being dead kills their casual audience. I am a DIE HARD Lost fan and it would really sour my love of it for sometime. The casual fans are not into the show for its complex through plots, they enjoy the more love and action based elements. Desmond dying would have people leaving Season 4 with lots of reasons to stop watching. Also, they already have a similar cliff hanger in effect. Is Jin dead or alive? They don't need to show another (potential) flash forward death just to built present time tension. It doesn't make sense creatively.
The identity of the person in the coffin has already been leaked by The Transmission (according to spoilerfix.com)
According to them, the man in the coffin is
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Alhtough it could be a foiler and not a spoiler
I still don't get why Michael would have a funeral in LA. He has no family there, has never lived there, and it just makes no sense to me why he would hang himself in LA as opposed to his home.
I also don't understand why Desmond would be buried there, either. It would make more sense for a California based character to have a funeral in LA. I would say Hurley, but it doesn't make any sense as to why his family wouldn't be there.
Either way, I think it is a fairly sound line of thinking that Walt would go to his father's funeral as would Michael's mother. What kind of mother would not go to her see her son buried? I just don't see it being Michael. That's too predictable and it doesn't make much sense as to why he would have his final resting place in LA.
Of course, there are lots of people that would go to see Desmond, and his final resting place would be in Scotland.
The two people that would be unpopular with the O6 are Ben and Locke. (since Kate did say "why would I go see him?" we know it's a guy) Ben is a critical character to the overall story, so I don't know if it would be him. Locke would never leave the island, so this is really difficult to figure out.
It wouldn't be Sayid due to his desire to be buried with his wife, I'm sure. Maybe Ben asks Sayid to kill Penny, and Sayid can't bring himself to do it. Sayid has spent some time with Des, and he knows about Penny. So maybe Ben tries to kill Penny since Sayid refuses and Sayid kills Ben instead. That's what I hope happens, but who knows with this show. I'm sure they could explain to us why any of the characters wind up in LA.
We'll find out soon enough.
I think Michael is in the coffin. Desmond did not have the anger the other islanders had against michael and from the trailers-it looks like they work together. which explains why he would come to say goodbye. and just because we only saw jack there and the funeral director-doesnt mean we saw the whole scene...
It cant be Desmond, as he is the only character the audience cares about that would care if Penny dies or not.
So if there isnt any Desmond around, who is going to care if Penny is being chased after to be killed other then her father?
So it poses a issue with plot development.
Remember that the flash forwards go backwards? Sayid was in the forwards so it's not him and I doubt it's Desmond 'cause he's a major part of the story. I read on here that it's Christian Shephard who's in the coffin. Remember someone wrote that?
No, it's not Christian. I believe the finale will show a big, church funeral for Christian. That was the spoiler being discussed, not that Christian is in the Hoffs-Drawler coffin. I mean come on, Mrs. Shepherd is the one who sent Jack to get him: SHE would be there. Jack said he was neither friend nor family, which makes no sense at all if it's Christian, and Christian was RICH. Rich means a big funeral, not some skid row linoleum room.
Gimme a break, kids!
I agree with the person who said no way would they film anyone in the coffin on a public set. Desmond was a guest, not the occupant. I really think it narrows the list to Sayid and Michael. I'm sticking with Michael.
saraH! You haven't heard this one yet...
It's Dr. Marvin Candle.
There, now you've heard it all ;)
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The funeral director told Jack that nobody else had come at all. That means Desmond couldn't be there to attend except as the corpse!
des kills ben
Surly, I am merely a pretender to the throne.
They've set up an enticing story for Ben off the island, so there's no way it will be Ben. I still think it's Michael, and that Desmond will be dropping by to pay his respects. *crosses fingers*
The funeral director told Jack that nobody else had come at all. That means Desmond couldn't be there to attend except as the corpse!
Unless he shows up after Jack leaves. They must NOT kill Des!! I agree with Festy1986, if they kill Des the audience would not be so invested in the fate of Penny. We worry about Penny only because Des loves her.
If HIC was spotted outside of the exterior location for Hoff Drawler, then there's nothing to worry about because the INSIDE of Hoff Drawler is 99.99999999% to be inside a studio. If they were just getting exterior shots it means Des was going to visit whoever was in the coffin.
I think it's Ben personally. It's the only thing that makes sense.
Are you writers out of your mind? Do you know what you're doing? OK if Des is sick of Lost and you need to kill him off, I can understand that but his character and his performance does not deserve death. Kill Michael or Jack or I don't know somebody else but not my bro!
Why would Desmond be in a coffin in the middle of a black neighborhood in LA? It seems that even if he died and no one wanted to take him in, his body would just be disposed of by the city, right? Why would he got to a poor minority neighborhood?
I think that it would have to be Michael, Walt, or someone that we'll meet in the finale.
It's not Ben either. People, just ask yourselves why Ben would be in that kind of funeral home. Who would set it up for him? Why there? It's not Ben. It's not Desmond.
I think Desmond walks in there AFTER Jack leaves, and asks the funeral guy to open the coffin, thus revealing who is in it. He is a wonderful character who all of us well-minded Lost fans want to see,in the end, alive and happily married to Penny!
desmond and jack would go to a funeral for
daniel faraday
jack wants to get back,
and desmond is/was his constant like he wrote in his book.
daniel has a flashforward on island, and in the future he needs to find desmond, but he cant, and he dies. nose bleeds. thats why daniel was crying when he saw the 815 wreckage, he sent the mouse to the future, he could send himself?
kate already hates him and charlotte for not helping to rescue them
For those who think Desmond isn't going to the funeral, dark had a post a few days back stating that there was filming at the funeral parlour involving Jack's truck. So unless these aren't two different scenes, which I doubt, Des is there but likely trying to avoid Jack.
>>>CanaDharma
Desmond had 3 brothers. He has a family
I'm excited!
I don't think it's Desmond in the coffin: it seems to be too short for a man as tall as Desmond, IMHO.
I think it is obvious. Michael is in the coffin and desmond came to see him as they had met on the frighter and maybe in the finale of the series 4 they do something together and became friends
There is something that no one has thought of yet!
what if the person in the coffin was announced to be michael, explaining why kate was reluctant to go, and why jack was upset (because another lostie bites the dust) when in fact someone, perhaps ben or even michael himself, faked michael's death under an alias that was known to jack and kate and a complete random body is placed in the coffin?
Despite the high chances of skeptism at my theory, i am truly hoping against hope that this is what the writers plan to do, because frankly, i dont know if i can take another original castaway death. THEY ARE A DYING BREED FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
oh yeah, im posting this in theories
and also, desmond visits because he and michael worked together on the frieghter on some task that we are yet to see :)
It makes a lot of sense that Desmond would go and pay his respects to Michael after all the events on the freighter. But it absolutely does not make sense that Desmond would be the one in the casket... people, use your heads!
Here is something to consider
1. Are we sure that this is the same funeral that Jack went to? Have we even considered that this could be another funeral that Des is attending that is totally unrelated to the one from TTLG?
2. Des isn't in the coffin. Lost peeps love to shock us but their shockers always at least make some sense. Des in the coffin makes NO sense.
3. Des could have easily showed up after Jack left the funeral. He's a good guy and if the person is Michael as speculated, he'd probably be there. Same for Sayid.
4. I don't care how much he hurt her, Penny WOULD have been at his funeral and stayed by his side the entire time.
What I think is interesting is that this sort of confirms that Desmond gets off the island somehow. But he isn't an O6. Hmmmmmmm, so what does he do?
Desmond and Mike do appear to have some meaty scenes in the upcoming finale.
Maybe Mike redeems himself or even saves Desmond's bacon. They could make a very interesting action team. Des, the man who sees future flashes of deaths, and Mike, the many who can't die (yet).
It's Claire in the coffin.
Something happens that makes Kate not want to see her. Maybe Claire didn't want her to look after Aaron, I've no idea why yet.
I think Des would go to see her as he is wrought with guilt for leading Charlie to his death - remember it was based on him seeing Claire being rescued in a helicopter. But that was all he saw - she will die & Des will struggle to cope. Jack sees her as he's found out that she's his step-sister and people see the coffin one at a time.
it likely is desmond, but that doesn't mean he can't change his own future or maybe jack can somehow change it? if christian can come back to life, so can desmond, no?
the funeral director in the season 3 scene said jack was the only visitor and if desmond is filming there...well put two and two together. the thing is, if desmond's body washed up or they had to somehow kill him off, why would he have a funeral with no penny, in some random crap LA neighborhood? very doubtful he's in there, but if he is, I bet it'll be something that can be changed.
I digress here, but I do want to remind you all everybody that Desmond is off the Island already. He is on the Freighter, determined never to return to the Island. And seeing he is not from the Oceanic 815 he cannot be Oceanic 6 anyway.
He is likely to be alivein L.A. in 2007, and he is likely to die in L.A. in 2007.
If he died in L.A. in 2007, someone (one of his three brothers, or Penny, or his friend Donovan) would claim and take the body back to England or Scotland for the funeral/viewing just like Jack was bringing his father's body back to America for the funeral.
it's not desmond. he and penny are adam and eve, duh.
i'm telling ya, it's walt.
Trying to apply logic to Lost is like tying velcro shoes, you can't tie velcro shoes, but the solution to fasten the shoes remains incredibly easy! With that being said.. here's what's happening in the Funeral Parlor,
1)The creators have said more then once that the Desmond/Penny romance is a story that's core to the show
2)Michael does have a death-wish, but the island won't allow him to die until he 'completes his mission'
3)We should grasp from the flashforwards that everyone who leaves the island...unable to die OR escapes death (we see it as convienently lucky)
Look at -
Jack popping pills/jumping off a bridge - he could have, but the car crash stops him.
Sayid getting shot in the shoulder by a trained hit-woman
Kate not getting sent to prison (mom has a change of heart)
Sun doesn't die from the pregnancy
Hurley crashes through multiple objects and never gets hurt
You can't die after leaving the island a first time. The Powers that Be showed us that with Michael's episode.
Michael is going to be in the coffin. He will have gotten his wish. Kate wants nothing to do with him because Michael was a cold blooded killer. Jack visits him out of curiosity, Michael is his link with death on the island, that's why he wants to go back. Desmond is there out of genuine respect for Michael, because michael helped desmond escape the freighter.
I just wish that the "big final kiss" is between Penny and Desmond!
That would be awesome ..
There are so many reasons I can think of why it WOULDN'T be desmond in the coffin. The poster who mentioned faraday writing "if anything goes wrong, desmond hume is my constant" was spot on. They HAVE to be going somewhere with that at some point. Also, the love story between des and penny has been built up for so long, I don't believe they'd just kill desmond off without giving us some payoff on that one. Not to mention there's no reason for Kate NOT to go to desmond's funeral.
as for sayid, I also have a hard time imagining that it would be him. first, if one of the O6 died, wouldn't there be a huge media circus surrounding it? Also, as someone above pointed out, he wouldn't have this sort of funeral.
Everything I've seen so far points to Michael being in the coffin.
I also can't fathom why any fans of this show would want Ben dead. Sure, he's creepy and a "bad guy", but he keeps the show exciting! There's no way they're killing Ben off; I don't see it happening, at least not before the end of the series.
My theory? He's visiting somone we have yet to meet.
Guys, I'm fairly certain it's the monk from Desmond's past that is in the coffin. I believe its the one who was seen with Mrs Hawkins (Bro. Campbell I think) in that picture that was on his desk. Obviously, we don't know why yet but he and definately Mrs Hawkins are very important to the storyline. For reasons we don't know yet, Jack is very distraught over this (maybe because of something he learns from Christian regarding the monks role in all this??). I believe it was also revealved somewhere that someone on some site digitally enhanced the obituary that Jack read and it mentioned the monk. Anyway, I'm standing by the monk being in the coffin.
dj (David Jones) said...
I still don't get why Michael would have a funeral in LA. He has no family there, has never lived there, and it just makes no sense to me why he would hang himself in LA as opposed to his home.
I also don't understand why Desmond would be buried there, either. It would make more sense for a California based character to have a funeral in LA. I would say Hurley, but it doesn't make any sense as to why his family wouldn't be there.
Either way, I think it is a fairly sound line of thinking that Walt would go to his father's funeral as would Michael's mother. What kind of mother would not go to her see her son buried? I just don't see it being Michael. That's too predictable and it doesn't make much sense as to why he would have his final resting place in LA.
Of course, there are lots of people that would go to see Desmond, and his final resting place would be in Scotland.
IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE POSTED SOMETHING THAT MADE SENSE!
has anyone noticed that alex petrovictch is in the finale....if you dont know who he is,he is one of the two guys speaking portugese in the season finale of season 2.....the two guys who call penelope widmore and say they think they found it....i find this verrrry intriguing...:):)
My guess is it's a red herring or Desmond is visiting. I think the producers are wise to 'spies' and really want to keep a lid on things better than the huge leak of TTLG from a year ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they purposely had Desmond there even though he may have nothing to do with filming in that scene just to throw us for a loop!
Not sure if it's been said or not, but I think being as Desmond and Michael are both still on the freighter, I would be more inclined to think that Michael perhaps did something to either save Des' life or ensured his rescue somehow. Desmond therefore is visiting to pay his respects to Michael.
Thoughts?
Desmond is most likely off the island also.
Remember, he's already on the freighter and told Sayid that he never want to go back to this island.
He's not in the Oceanic 6 cause he wasn't on the plane obviously but I'm 90% sure he's off the Island (perhaps protecting Penny from a certain Mr. Linus)
or could it now be that Desmond is off the Island while Widmore had Penny hide on the Island. Could be interesting...
it's not des IN the coffin. it's michael. look at the list of guest stars for the finale - walt, michaels mom...it's him. desmond gets to know michael a bit on the freighter, pays his repects...OR is there for some other reason...hoping someone else conected to the island or whidmore shows up...i'm kind of going with what i have heard others guess, that penney ends up ON island and desmond OFF and now he needs to get back. i think des will show up for the same reason jack did - to try and see if anyone else he knows will be there.
i also can see des and whidmore having to work together to find and save penney after the island is moved. des could be at the funeral hoping someone shows up so he can do just that. remember, he knows michael was ben's "man on the boat" so maybe he thinks he can get there through ben, who he's hoping might have something to do w/the funeral.
Reading the Christian Shepard spoiler again, I can say with certainty that he is NOT the one in the coffin. They have a funeral for him shortly after the O6 get back to the mainland. He is NOT the one in the coffin several years in the future. THAT, is somebody else.
Michael could be buried in LA because he's hiding from someone who's looking for him in his hometown of NYC (maybe this same person threatened to kill Walt and his Mom if Michael ever came back to NY). He could also be working for someone who forces him to stay in LA. He could also just be staying there because it's convenient (a la Kate having a trial in LA for a murder committed in Iowa). Or maybe everything east of the Rockies has been swallowed up in a tidal wave and so NO ONE can go further than LA. Who knows? I'm pretty conviced that either it's Michael in the coffin and the writers will explain why he was in LA, or Jack only THINKS it's Michael, and, as others have said, it will be some random schmoe off the street - and it was all just a con, and the story goes on from there.
if Desmond dies, I seriously might stop watching the show. he's easily one of the best characters.
Oop, Dark, you forgot an "end quote" code. I think.
Even if it is Desmond, which i hope it isnt, he would still have to have died a year or more after the Oceanic 6 got off the island which means he'd still be on the show. It'll be weird to see who it is based on the time stuff.
This one deserved an "are you sure warning?".
There are just too many things that make it not Desmond.
1. The obit said the man was from NY. Michael is from NY & when we saw him trying to visit Walt, he was still in NY.
2. Obit said the man was in a loft. Artists, which Michael is/was, often have lofts.
3. No visitors. Michael, being estranged from Walt and his mom, would have no visitors to the funeral. But I could still see his mother setting up and paying for the service and burial. If it's Sayid or Desmond, who paid for the funeral? Nadia is dead and Des only has Penny. If it were Desmond Penny would be there ... unless she's dead and if that's the case, again ... who paid for the funeral?
4. Kate has no need to hate Des or Sayid. She tried to help Sayid find Jack and Sawyer. She has no reason to hate Desmond, they hardly ever interacted. But she does have reason to hate Michael. He killed AL and Libby. And when he got back he did nothing to try and rescue them.
5. Just because Jack and Des are Caucasian, doesn't mean anything. The funeral director asked if Jack family or friend because you don't assume anything at a time like this. He could be family by marriage or adoption.
I have no worries that it's Des in the coffin. It's not. :D
Fabio - I think you are correct!