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Episode 4.12 - There's No Place Like Home (Parts 1) CTV Promo
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Is it me or are there two Kates, one drawing a gun on the other one?
The only reason I bring this up is that comicon casimir effect video where there are two rabbits in the same place at the same time. Perhaps this happens after John 'moves' the island?
I'm getting crazy. Sawyer seems to be with the O6. What's happening after Kate got Aaron?
Holy crap, more Locke awesomeness in this episode and who is being held at gun point?
I wanna know what the heck is up at Jacob's cabin. Moving the island? Why is Claire with Christian who is speaking on Jacob's behalf?
I think that may be Richard Alpert being held at gunpoint by Kate and Sayid. But he's got backup, someone in the undergrowth has a gun trained on them.
So if they're getting off the island next week (implied by the trailers), what's gonna happen in parts 2 and 3 of the finale?
That bit's probably from the beginning of the flashfoward, so by the end of this episode's present time we'll roughly reach the start of that episode's flashfoward if you get what I mean.
Is Sawyer running towards the chopper?
As far as them getting off the island next week... that could still happen in next week's "flash foward", keeping the O6 on the island for some or most of the finale.
That does look like Richard Alpert now, I was thinking it might have been Keamy or one of his men, it will be interesting to see what happens between him, Kate, and Sayid.
It looked like Sun and Jin were on the Kahuna. If Jin makes it off the island but is not one of the O6 does that mean he dies?
Does it look like Keamy is in Jacobs Cabin?
Yeah, it does. He did say he knows where Ben will be going next.
Sawyer's tone of voice when he says "we lost her" (referring to Claire) sounds like he saying she's dead rather than just "lost". There's a certain finality to it, rather than an uncertainty. Could this mean she is already dead?
That's Miles that Kate is holding at gunpoint.
..Miles Would've Since If She Was Dead.. So She Isnt Dead
I Mean Miles Would've Sense If She Was Dead
Miles did sense she was dead if you watched the last episode with an open mind. Hence Miles staring at her with an incredulous look in both the Dharma house AND when they were in the jungle.
Food for thought, does that restraining order count dead people?!
PLUS her in Jacob's cabin tonight. Weird, expect the unexpected.
P.S. Why was miles so calm when he told Locke she went with 'Dad'? questions to be asking yourself for sure. ;^)
So Who In The World Aaron Suppose To Be With??? So When That Dude Said Clair Is The Only One Who Supposed To Raise Aaron, What Is The Island Saying That Aaron Was Supposed To Die With Aaron, Or Aaron Has Some Kind Of Power That Wouldvd Kept Clair Alive If They Were Together?????, I Thought They Said She Would Be Doing More Now That Aaron Is Gone With Kate???????
FINALLY.
Common sense prevails.
We're shown that, yes, Aaron is an Oceanic 6er and, yes, "Oceanic 6" is a sensationalist press term. Nothing more.
I'm very good with recognizing voices and voice patterns. So let me tell you I am almost %100 sure that the woman who says "They're refering to you as the Oceanic 6" is the fabulous actress Michelle Forbes.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000405/
HAHA I recognized the voice too. I remember her from 24 and Half-Life 2.
What is the deal with Keamy? He's a hired gun but he obviously knows what is going on and didn't mind killing the boat's captain. He doesn't seem like he'd leave after work is done, maybe that is part of the reward.
Charles Widmore Founded The Island And Knows It Secrets
oh jack, why you so pretty?
Don't understand why sawyer says "we lost her" might be the writers trying to drive us crazy, making us think they all believe she's dead.
I wonder who's left on the freighter, in terms of freighter people, looks like desmond and michael are going to become buddies.
Glad sayid is there to warn everybody, hopefully sawyer didn't make the rest of the story about what happened to everybody at the barracks as ambiguous as what happened to claire.
don't think it's richard being held at gunpoint, looks more like keame, and i have to guess its either ben or locke hidden in the jungle who also have guns drawn.
i guess sayid takes the chopper, or maybe they take someone hostage that can fly it? the island moves, maybe after penny finds it, putting her and her people in the middle of a war between the island residents and freighters. don't know what happens to the actual freighter - will they know the island moved?
i'm going with the people that say the finale won't have many flashes, will be a lot of linear storytelling to get from "cabin fever" thru the first few weeks that the oceanic 6 are home, although they do have to flash to show how jack finally cracks and wants, desperately to get back to the island and also who's in the coffin. might not be any flashes in next weeks part of the finale. cabin fever was definitely an awesome episode. wonder how the others get their props, money and technology. who was the leader before ben and what happened to him? will lockes time as "chosen one" run out before the show does? did alpert travel back in time after getting mikhails files when 815 first crashed and seeing that john was paralyzed and able to walk , or was he present in the 60's or whenever john was little originally? what was john supposed to have taken? is abbadon not as bad as we thought (maybe hes one of the real world others that darlton mentioned we'd see and the one financing everything in the real world)? was claire really in the cabin or was it jacob just assuming her form? was it really abbadon in the hospital or was he just assuming the form of the other guy who first took care of locke in the ep where he got paralyzed? with all the chaos and ben not knowing/wanting to talk to jacob how is he so calm and have so much purpose upon arriving to tunisia, who contacts him and even lets him know about bakir and all these other people? this show is starting to resemble, more and more a stephen king novel in the time travelling, the group of misfits, the mythology, but hopefully the writing team at lost can end it better than king does and answer more questions along the way. whats up with all the game talk? i think there is a game between god and the devil with jacob in white, abbadon in black and ben and widmore were/are the main pieces, the island is essential to the game like australia is to risk, theres elements of mouse trap. theres rules, alpert told locke he's very good at the game, maybe referencing something much bigger. interesting with keame too, without him, the freighters might not be so bad, even gault didn't seem like such a bad guy. very curious about the dharma notebook that's supposed to show where ben is, pretty much shows that widmore was either a member of dharma on the island or provided major funding for it. really dying to see what was behind the purge, the people, the motives. lockes potential recruitment as a child does help shed light as to how younger others like karl or that guy who put the needle through sawyers chest might have come to the island. can't wait for next week!
Yeah. Holy crap, dude.
I thought that the end of ABC promo is; there is a machine that will take the O-6 out of the island and they just entered that machine and that woman voice was giving orders to them, like they will be known as "the O-6". But now I got that they are on the plane and OFF THAT ISLAND and people are waiting for them! Yayy!
BTW, can somebody post the DailyMotion link for the CTV promo? Again I'm unable to open it because of my country's banishment.
Definitely looks awesome. I think Sawyer is not one of the O6 because he chose not to leave the island. Its a simple as that. Possibly because he felt guilty about Claire, possibly because he simply doesn't want to be brought to justice.
What the heck is up with Abaddon, though? At first it seemed obvious that he was with the freighters, but it seemed that in Cabin Fever, he had the same agenda as Richard Alpert...to get Locke to the island...? Very confusing stuff.
i dont think claire is dead or will die... maybe sawyer was saying "we lost her... in the jungle" and ABC cut the line to make it look like claire is going to die...
I think its obvious he wasn't saying "we lost her" as if she's dead, since he hasn't seen her and has no way to confirm that she's dead.
Well, I read your hype about this episode, even though each one of you have different imagination and create your own stories. I didn't find it that great, unless you liked Apocalypse Now, when the helicopters bombarded the beach in Viet Nam..
I don't know about you but I believed the producers when they made comments many times that, "No, there's no purgatory, no zombies and nobody is really dead"
I don't know if I can believe them on anything they say from now on, let alone listening to all the craziness of stories you all create from episode to episode...
Now, that we have seen Zombies, the producers have a lot of explaining to do, and I hope it makes sense or else they are ruining everything about LOST.
What I think is, Nothing is what it seems to be. It seems whenever there are flash forwards it happens when someone is sleeping. Fine the island has something but not as huge as you might believe. It can only control the minds of all the Losties. Exactly what Ben is doing with Locke. We all know, and reasoning has it, Locke can't be "The Chosen One" Besides being able to walk, even Rose's cancer disappeared after the crash, Locke hasn't shown any special qualities. Only if you consider his selfishness, his lies, not really knowing what or who he is...Possitivelly, "No man of Science and No Man of Faith".
Jack has shown us that he's actually both. Being a well known surgeon, he's a man of science and when he was about to jump to his death from the bridge he asks God to forgive him. That would make him a Man of Faith...
The producers, have also lied to us. They had said that whoever dies on the island IS DEAD. They don't return. Well this last episode contradicts everything they have led us to believe.
The also said Jack's "ILY" in the season finale last year will be addressed between Jack and Kate many times this season. Well, again, nothing has been mentioned.
Claire is also DEAD, Dead Dead, so is Jack's dad. Just their ghosts appear and Richard not aging is where Lost has turned from a Crash Survivors TV Show to a "Twilight Zone" episode every week... If you like Sci-Fi, that's fine, but there are so many on TV like "Supernatural". "The Ghost Whisperer"
I just wished they were honest with us from the first season instead of continually yanking our chains.
By the way, I think Sayid is in the coffin...
SOG
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The producers, have also lied to us. They had said that whoever dies on the island IS DEAD. They don't return. Well this last episode contradicts everything they have led us to believe.
"
I'm sorry, can you name one person who has died on the island who has come back to life? If you believe that is Christian, then you need to have your head examined. Also, there's no reason to believe he is a zombie. In "Dave" Dave appeared to Hurley, he is a person who was never alive, yet he was able to pick up a rock (or a coconut, I can't remember) and actually throw it at Hurley.
As far as sci-fi, you do remember the MONSTER in the very first episode?
"Claire is also DEAD, Dead Dead, so is Jack's dad. Just their ghosts appear and Richard not aging is where Lost has turned from a Crash Survivors TV Show to a "Twilight Zone" episode every week..."
In regards to Richard - The island has healing properties, we've known that since "Walkabout." Is it such a stretch to believe that these powers could suspend the aging process?
Also, when exactly did we confirm that Claire is dead? I think that is 100% up in the air.
it seems like jin and sun are on the frieghter, and micheal is in the shot, b4 the season started we saw sun and micheal almost kiss, maybe thats micheals baby instead of jin, or maybe thats what sun been thinking all along. but jin looks might upset about something
Can someone do a transcript please-am at work so can't have sound on!
Thanks :)
Wow cant wait! Got goosebumps at the last part! Its a little sad also as the Lost we knew would never be the same.
omg!!! i cant wait! sawyer is the one who hands aaron over to claire, yay!! last epi was AMAZING, best so far, imo (even with no sawyer) but the finale will be better.
i have a question, sayid left the frieghter BEFORE the doc got pushed off. why does the doc arrive BEFORE sayid??? :)
isabelle- I would say that the doc possibly floated toward the island on a different bearing which caused him to go backward in time slightly. I believe that there is no actual difference in amount of time passing, but that the apparent difference of time is shown during the coming and going.
What is the place that Keamy is seen in the promos? Also why does somebody say that they see Richard? I still can't see him although I've just watched the promo 6th time - in which specific time is he seen?
gokhan-
Kate and Sayid have their guns pulled on Richard in the open jungle.
aussielostie-
Desmond is yelling "I need you" to Michael. I'm thinking that they will attempt to pilot the freighter closer to shore so that Sayid can bring more people back in less time.
thanks ryan ;)
TRANSCRIPT
Voiceover: Week to week -
Kate: Where's Claire?
Sawyer: We lost her.
Voiceover: - Lost only gets better and better.
Desmond: I need you now!
Voiceover: Next Thursday -
Sayid: The men on that helicopter have every intention of killing us all.
Voiceover: An all new lost -
Kate: I said stop right there!
Voiceover: - Is one of the most unforgettable hours of television -
Woman (Reporter?): They're referring to you as the Oceanic Six
Voiceover: - You'll experience this season. All new Lost.
for the finale, do we get one hour, break, then the last two hours...
or, two hours, break, then the last one hour?? :)
If that is Richard then perhaps there is a tie-in with the Others and the Temple in the finale - maybe the Temple was built by a long-lost civilisation on the Island over a "special place", i.e. where you can "teleport" to the Sahara and somewhere in the Artic (or at least somewhere very cold, judging by the Hallowax parka in 409), and when "the DI" (loving that!) explored the Island and found this "teleportation" area (I'm still very sceptical about how they can explain this properly without sounding too ridiculous) they built the Orchid over this area as well. So maybe the Temple and the Orchid are not quite one and the same, but perhaps they are very close to each other, and this is how Richard and perhaps the rest of the Others tie in with the finale. Just my thoughts.
Oh yeah, and, erm. . .here's Keamy rapping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okssdNt-tb4&feature=related
aussielostie - thanks for the transcript :)
isabelle - finale is 1 hour then the week break then the 2 hour show-can't wait!!
OMG! Promo looks absolutely incredible, mainly last scene, haha:))
thanks ali
I hope the O6 part will be good. I don't like it that they are getting off the island.
Certainly, nothing can be said about the promos. We'll have to wait for some sneak peeks... the promos are made to confuse us.
On the last episode:
- That "pregnancy" was kind of flat to me...
- I'm thinking Richard thought he was John's father... but, after he picked the knife, something changed.
- That's a totally different Christian... no white shoes, looks older and tired... different clothing. And Claire, she's very different too... specially her expressions and her eyes...
- Keamy is so driven into doing what he is supposed to do he will be, definitely, a difficult to beat enemy. He doesn't care about anything or anyone, even not about him, he has a mission and this makes me think there's more to him than just being an evil mercenary...
- The time issues really messed up with my mind on this episode. I'm going to do a copy-paste of another post of mine here: Keamy and co. went to the island and happened what happened... we also saw the doc's body ashore... the othertown incident with Keamy and Smokey... Frank helping Sawyer, Claire and Miles... after that, Frank is back at the freighter with Keamy and his evil gang. Keamy is really pissed off for what happened, he thinks Sayid or Desmond gave him up, then they said it was Michael... Frank asks Michael why he didn't tell him he was a survivor... and he answers Keamy is going to kill everyone... a well, you know what happened... Is this traveling affecting Frank's memory? Or... those things never happened?... or is it Frank thought Sawyer, Claire and Aaron were part of Benjamin Linus group but he just helped them because Miles was there with a woman and a baby??? Being others is a "good" reason for Keamy to kill them, but Frank is a good guy, he wouldn't let anybody die, whoever they were... The way he pushed them to hide is like he then knew what Keamy was capable of, even killing Aaron or leaving him to die there alone in the jungle... but the thing is Frank knew!!! He programmed the phone as a radar... again? Are those things supposed to happen again? No, because Frank is awesome and he left the phone as a present to the beach camp, to help them... Or is it that the Sawyer, Claire and Miles thing never happened? At least not yet, maybe... Time, on the island, is certainly not the same thing, the same concept we know and it goes beyond past, present and future... it is quite selfish, whatever it is, and does whatever it wants...
I mean, the island moves... in time? Are we going back?
BTW: Hurley is the nicest guy ever... and I'm also glad to see Sawyer again. His reasons not to leave? Who knows but I don't think it has to do with justice as he's not able to know if they found out he killed Duckett.
If you pause the ABC promo, you'll see that there are MORE people with guns trained on Kate and Sayid... in the shots already in the screencaps, a 2nd gun appears for a few frames to the left ... and then the camera changes to show Kate and Sayid from the other side - and there's another gunman...
interesting...
I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out, so bare with me if you probably all know that, but I just saw this on Wikipedia and found it interesting, about the name Jack:
"Although it may appear at first glance to be derived from the French Jacques—which is cognate with the names James and Jacob—native speakers of English would almost certainly associate the name "Jack" with John and only very rarely with "Jacob" (in which case the usual shortened form Jake is preferred)."
It's like they're a sort of four "shades" of the same person, although the only person they seem to have in common, so far, is Christian Shepard.
Sorry, I'm probably still confused about the last episode, LOL!
Anyway, I don't think Claire is dead but Sawyer will be probably convinced she is...
I hate Keamy, really.
And as I said,I'm really confused (and intrigued) by the time issues. The doc's body is found ashore while his murderer was still on the island... I guess my problem is that I'm trying to figure out why the time difference between the island and the freighter seems to be more than 31 minutes.
you'll see that there are MORE people with guns trained on Kate and Sayid
I think they're the Others. At first glance, the guy nearest Sayid & Kate reminded me of Richard Alpert. This episode could see the reintroduction of the Others. The shot of Keamy could be from the Temple. He is bent on killing everyone on the island and that would include the people holed-up there.
After cabin fever I'm sure Locke is not the chosen one, Alpert is sure he is not when he choose the knive...I',m still thinking is Sawyer,he has the same age when he lost his parents as Locke when Alpert made the test. And Christian made Locke a test too and I guess this is not what the Chosen One have to ask, maybe What have I do to save the people? (not the island)
Abbadon is who send Locke to the island, Richard Alpert is not.IMO
And I can understand the behaviour of the O6, how can they leave the island without the rest? I0m getting angry and angry :( with the O6
True - but Locke was later tested when asked to kill his "father"... does Alpert know (or does it matter?) that he got Sawyer to kill him?
Then again, maybe the knife scene plays into something that we'll see in the finale? Where Locke will use his knife ...
Or... maybe it's something to do with him killing Naomi?
We may never know...
Wow! So Sawyer gives Kate the baby - I LIKE that symbolism! Jack looks really sad about Claire, which is nice, I can't wait for them to find out they are related!! Or well, depending on what happened to Claire. o.o
And the whole, "they're referring to you as the Oceanic 6" gave me chills! I want it to be next week now!!!!
Does anyone know if we will be seeing the Orchid Station and The Temple in the final episodes of this season.I can't wait to see what these locations would be like.
i want jack to go to the cabin and see claire and christian and find out about the bro and sis thing.
about locke, i think he is the chosen one. he asked the right question imo. the chosen one is the protecter of the island, not the people on it. when he first said "how do i save the island" i though, "yeah, and what about the people?", but thinking about it, the chosen one must save the island first. the people is priority number 2, whereas the island must always come first. thats why there are sacrifices to being chosen.
i am so glad that sawyer is the one who hands aaron over to kate! so cute. and the look on jacks face when sawyer says "we lost her" is so sad and so sweet!! is sawyer suggesting that she is dead? or just that she is missing?
does Alpert know (or does it matter?) that he got Sawyer to kill him?
It was Alpert's idea.
Does anyone know if we will be seeing the Orchid Station and The Temple in the final episodes of this season.
We've been promised the Orchid :)
This looks like it will be the first season with no appearances from Boone or Shannon
@sawyerrules:
Alpert only said he "wasn't ready," not that he wasn't the one. And then Mittelos (the company Alpert supposedly worked for when recruiting Juliet) tried to get Locke AGAIN to come to science camp, and he refused. The interest Richard has taken in him on the island means he's still after John... but John may still not have been "ready." Who knows what "ready" means... Probably when he accepts destiny and stops exercising will. Maybe, now.
On a different note, forgive me if it's been covered: What is the timeline with Alpert's appearance at Locke's birth/in Locke's boyhood home vs. his appearance to Ben in the woods as a "hostile?" Like, what's with the hair/comportment differences? I always assumed Ben's jungle pal Richard was dressed in pirate gear (a la the Black Rock), but he sure cleans up in a hurry. Maybe he appeared to Ben after getting "turned on" in the 60s? It wasn't pirate garb, but hippie togs?
I just posted something about this issue on the homepage, just after you, Surly, hahaha... but as it has relevance here, I'll post it again, the same copy-paste thing (I'm not lazy, is just to save time).
@Surly...
I agree with you about Locke sabotaging his destiny, thus, himself, which, btw, is a very common human trait.
It won't be easy for John. As amazing as he is, he has a very fragile self-esteem, he wants to be something different. Yep, I believe he's the one, that's his destiny, but he definitely has to believe in him first, he has to stop trying to be what he's not and accept there are some things he just can't do.
That is why Richard told him about Sawyer to kill Cooper. Richard knows killing or fighting is not what Locke is supposed to do. Sawyer is not a killer either, at least not a cold blooded one, but he is definitely a soldier, unconsciously he is. Ben put Locke in that situation out of jealousy, that's all.
@Penelope
I have a list of names and their meanings (only the biblical ones). Maybe someone have posted it before but I don't know. I've been doing the list from some time, so I'll put all the names even if some are of characters who may not seem relevant.
Jacob: that supplants, undermines; the heel
John: the grace or mercy of Jehovah
James: same as Jacob.
Benjamin: son of the right hand
Aaron: seeker of justice
Jack: based on John (Hebrew) "the Lord is gracious", or Jacques, the French form of Jacob (Hebrew) "he who supplants"
Sarah: lady; mother of the multitude
Christian: flower of Christ
Matthew: gift of God
Abaddon: the destroyer
Julia (Juliet): downy; soft and tender hair
Ethan: strong; the gift of the island
Ana: one who gives
Nathan: given; giving; rewarded
Thomas (Tom): a twin
Micah (Michael-Mikhail): poor; humble
Paul (Paulo): small; little
Daniel: judgment of God; God my judge
Lapidoth (latin form, Lapidus): enlightened; lamps
Naomi: beautiful; agreeable; sweet; pleasant
Emma (femenine of Emmanuel): God with us
Zachary (Zack): The Lord remembers
Alexander (Alex): one who assists men
Martin --you know, Keamy--: Strong, friendly, wise
Omar: he that speaks; bitter
Rachel: ewe
Clement (Clementine): mild; good; merciful
Samuel (Sam): lent of God; heard by God; asked of God
Adam: earthy; red
Mary: bitter
Marcus (Marc): polite; shining
Diane: luminous, perfect
Jason: he that cures
Susan: lily; rose; joy
Ana: one who gives
And you certainly have :) Plenty of food for thought there, some seem so apt: Ethan - strong, Michael - poor/humble, Lapidus - enlightened, Alex - one who assists men..
Others confounding: Martin (Keamy) - friendly?! Possibly not his real name eh? ;)
Keamy in Jacob's cabin?!?! WTF?!!
Lostpedia Martin Keamy:
In Mayan Astrology, the sign CIMI, pronounced the same way as Martin's last name, means DEATH.
The name Martin comes from the Latin Martinus, which means "Servant of Mars" or "Servant of War".
Martin = friendly NO WAY! ;)
I can't wait next week! The last image, with Oceanic 6 and the plane door opening... OMG!!!
@T.L.A.
I'm glad you liked the list. I don't know if they chose those names intentionally or with nothing in mind about it, I mean, just because.
I always think a lot about Jacob, James and Jack having the same meaning and, actually, being the same name.
"Others confounding: Martin (Keamy) - friendly?! Possibly not his real name eh? ;)"
"The name Martin comes from the Latin Martinus, which means "Servant of Mars" or "Servant of War"."
Yep, I know, I thought the same. But maybe is because Keamy is indeed a good friend but only to his friends and is ruthless about other people. For the casting he was described as:
"late 20s - 30s, any ethnicity, dangerous, physical - a great tactician, LOYAL FRIEND and the last enemy you ever want. Military type. Follows orders and doesn't question them... Guest star, possible recur "
Something tells me Keamy isn't in Jacob's cabin because the light isn't quite right. But it would be awesome if he did gatecrash the place and Jacob ripped him to shreds :)
I found a site where you can find more about the names:
http://www.biblicalbabyname.com/
"Martin" is not there, though. Maybe on the first website I found it, it appeared to be biblical but only because of Martin Luthers.
I think I'll also do a list for other non biblical names too :)
There's another good one here Ana :)
I like that one because it tells me I'm a gift from God ;)
@T.L.A.
Awesome! Thank you, Michael ;)
Thanks everyone for the cool videos & transcripts.
Keamy is in Jacob's cabin, I wonder how he found it?
Sawyer is running towards to the helicopter.
Awesome stuff!!
My name means "The resurrected one."
No wonder I like zombies so much. BRAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIINNNNS....
@Surly...
Hahaha, that's funny... what is your name, btw?
Here's a little more info about Mars, if you're interested.
Mars is a Roman god of great importance, only second to Jupiter (Zeus), his father. Her mother was Juno (Hera). His greek counterpart is Ares, who, because of his cruel and war-like nature, was despised by all the gods, even his own father disliked him. Ares could be bloody, merciless, fearful and a coward and possessed no moral attributes. He was, however, unable to withstand the loveliness of Aphrodite, who subsequently became his consort. Ares was of giant stature and had a loud voice, and surpassed the other gods in speed.
However, to the Romans, Mars was a great symbol of power and invincibility, and he was not like Ares. In early Roman history, he was a god of spring, growth in nature, and fertility, and the protector of cattle. Mars is also mentioned as a chthonic god (earth-god) and this could explain why he became a god of death and finally a god of war.
On this website you can find more about the mythology of Mars and maybe get an insight on Keamy.... who knows.
http://members.tripod.com/~Avalon100/Mars.html
HIGHLY Unlikey Sayid in coffin, Muslims don't bury their dead in coffins, they are wrapped in shrouds and buried. I know what you're thinking, what about Nadia, Nadia was probably not buried in her coffin, they performed the janaza, or a special ritual prayer for the deceased and then buried her in a white shroud.
Also, Omar is NOT a biblical name, it is an arabic/muslim name.
Omar (name meaning "eloquent") was the son of Eliphaz, Esau's eldest son in the Bible. His name is mentioned in Genesis 36:11.
what if lapidus gave the beach crew the sat phone so they could find the helicopter, becuz as soon as they land, keamy's team is goin for ben, so thats why we see sawyer run towards the helicopter. so sayid saves the o6 on the raft i guess, unless he can fly the chopper. and he can only take 6 at a time. but it seems like jin is on the freighter so maybe he can take 7 or 8. then jin and sawyer fly back to get more people, then locke turns a key, purple sky, the island moves, jin and sawyer fly back on different bearings then they should and cant leave again. thats why the o6 are the only ones to leave. maybe the rest leave in a different time or place. but not on the o6 timeline
@ana--
My real name is Stacey.
...braaaaains....
Thanks for that info Ana, didnt know that... although most Omar's that you meet are either Hispanic or Arab, which both derive Omar from the arabic name meaning "fluorishing," so I just thought Id throw that in there.
Ana said... - That's a totally different Christian... no white shoes, looks older and tired... different clothing. And Claire, she's very different too... specially her expressions and her eyes...
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Yeah, Christian was made up totally different. Mostly his hair style. Usually his hair is dark gray, now it's light gray and older-looking.
I also noticed (maybe it's just how she sat) that Claire has some chubbier cheeks [Cute, by the way]. She's... also kinda disturbing in a subtle kinda way.
Personally, I thought Claire was flashing a 'come to bed' smile.
But it was late when I was watching.
lol @ t.l.a.
I liked Vozzek's "possessed" impression as well :)
@Markymark
Yes, in fact, I have a cousin whose name is Omar... when I made the list for the biblical names used in Lost I was like... "mmm... Omar is an arabic name..." but then I found out that info, that it also has an hebrew origin. Then I though: "Good! Everyday we learn something new" :)
@Surly
Stacey is a beautiful name. It also means bountiful grapes but I think you must prefer the resurrection thing ;)
@Jake and T.L.A.
Exactly! She had a mischievous attitude... that scene really surprised me, never thought it was going to be like that.
What about Emily? I definitely think she was kind of similar to Claire.