MAJOR FINALE SPOILER - I know this is not a full synopsis, but there have been some concerns about the finale being ruined so if you do NOT want the finale partly spoiled, then STOP reading and leave the SPOILERS SECTION.
**UPDATED** May 5th - Well once again another update from Ryan, apparently as many fans have mentioned or pointed out, Josh Holloway was NOT on set and it was Henry Ian Cusick's stand-in in the water. Sorry for any confusion. Here is Ryan's update:
UPDATE: Turns out the guy in blue I thought was Josh Holloway was in fact Henry Ian Cusick’s stand-in. Special thanks to the spoilerhounds at Fishbiscuit.com, who obviously know their hunks better than I!
**UPDATED** May 3rd 11PM PST - I am not sure if I missed this one last night or Ryan added a few more pics, plus perhaps you all alread have noticed this, but Desmond is also on set. Screencap added below.
**UPDATED** Ryan just messaged me saying that he thinks Daniel Dae Kim (Jin) was NOT on set. However, looking at the screencap posted it does look like him. So we can not say 100% that he was there, so sorry for any confusion.
Here is the latest filming updated for the season finale from our good friend Ryan from Hawaii Blog. It looks like the cast and crew were filming what seems to be the point the Oceanic 6 are trying to escape or get rescued. According to Ryan, all of the Oceanic 6 members were spotted on set as was Sawyer. Also, if you look closely you see someone that looks like Frank. I know director Jack Bender looks like Frank, but look at the cap below.
*UPDATED* Just posted a cap of what looks like Jin on set as well.
Here are Ryan's set report and photos.
Thanks to Lyly for the heads up.
As we draw nearer to the Season 4 finale, the “LOST” production crew is bringing the story ever closer to the pivotal moment when the Oceanic Six get off the island. To tell that story, they headed way out to Wai’anae, the arid, rural west coast of O’ahu. They established a base camp at Wai’anae Regional Park, and enlisted a handful of boats to carry equipment and crew across Pokai Bay.
The cast and their stand-ins took their direction on shore, then made their way into the ocean to film their scene. It was relatively simple in the narrative sense, but working on the water always makes things exponentially more complicated. Crew members had to keep a handle on a surfboard-riding director, hand held cameras and cameramen buffeted by the surf, a sound boat rocking on the waves, and keeping props from floating away. The primary prop? A large, octagonal life raft.
Action is called, and the stars get wet. Jorge Garcia, Yunjun Kim, Matthew Fox, Evangeline Lilly, Naveen Andrews and Josh Holloway swim toward the raft through some debris. In several takes, Hurley — clutching a doll that’s most likely playing Aaron — helps pull Kate, Sun, and Sayid aboard. But Jack and Sawyer take a little longer to reach them. And Sawyer is holding someone who’s not moving.
Who is in trouble? Exactly how did the Oceanic Six (plus one) end up in the water? Where are they? And how do they get from here to Hawaii? The answers will come soon enough!
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Posted By: ODI
05-May-2008
Episode 4x13 There's No Place Like Home - Filming Update (*Updated)
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Woah!
This is the most excited I've been about any season finale! :)
I wonder if the person Sawyer is holding and I think it has to be Claire. Sounds very exciting and then what changes Sawyer's mind about leaving is it to do with the person he is holding or is it Jin he is holding? What is the debri, why on a raft and are they going to the frieghter? O.K. too many questions.
Looks like on the island you can heal very quickly from an appendix operation done with home made beach utensils and fertility doctors and nurses (Kate) who aren't qualified, Oh the mysteries!
here my spec
sorry i'm skater but you can see the kiss coming now...i'm sure
i think it's when sawyer chose to stay...i think too it's where the spectacular kiss will be they said not on the island it's not lol
and could be also the reason why hurley and sun are happy to don't see others o6...they abandonned sawyer and maybe claire...
arg i hate to love lost lol
Whats the point of having 10 sources if they never tell you any good spoilers... and how is this a major spoiler?
Will we ever get a actual full synopsis?
Um, this is a major spoiler because it reveals HOW the Oceanic Sic leave the island, and that SAWYER was with them!
That's crazy. It makes me look at the show in a whole new light.
OH dear lord! This is one amazing spoiler! THANK YOU so much!
... Sawyer DO get back to the beach and he is about to leave the island! What makes him change his mind?!
Can.Not.Wait!
I agree with Wolveman... I don't think this is a major spoiler.
We still don't know how they got off the island, we don't know who the person is that Sawyer has in his arms...
We don't know anything except that Sawyer is there.
The point isn't that it's a major spoiler, the point is that Spoilergate 2007 was a huge wank fest and Dark is just trying to warn people away from spoilers about the finale if they don't want any of it spoiled for them. What's the big deal?
I personally think it's a great spoiler. Thanks Dark and Ryan!
I wonder if the body that Sawyer's got is Claire...that would mean she gets back to the beach and I'm not sure that's going to happen. Could it be one of the Freighties?
Another death? AWW MAN!!
I think Sawyer has Claire, since that's who he's all about at the moment. Maybe the island does something to Claire to stop Sawyer from leaving the island.
Jack said it was Sawyer's choice to stay on the island. Maybe he goes back to the island and Claire is suddenly fine, but the 06 think she's dead.
MAYBE it's JIN that is dead!!!
I love seeing the stunt doubles with the actors. In the second photo, you see Jorge and his double (both putting their hair behind their ears - classic!). Also, in the first photo, you can see Lapidus and another guy that looks and is dressed just like him - his double or maybe Jack Bender? And Evangline Lilly on her cell phone.
Don't know why, but really loving this!
Well, I think that this isn't a major spoiler anymore. We all know that Sawyer chooses to stay on the island due to the last episode. I assume that it has something to do with Claire. Assuming he survives, I still say that a very well ungroomed Sawyer will be the first person they meet when they return to the island in season 6.
Wolveman91 said...
Whats the point of having 10 sources if they never tell you any good spoilers... and how is this a major spoiler?
Will we ever get a actual full synopsis?
Nicole said...
I agree with Wolveman... I don't think this is a major spoiler.
guys,
to clarify i am not saying i think this is a major spoiler, but just starting warn people that we are getting close to spoilers for the finale finale....
in the one week of covering for dark i have recd. several emails about making sure we warn for MAJOR spoilers...
i have seen this same sentiment on many spoiler sites/forums....
yes we know the O6 get off and do not know how....but the fact that sawyer, jin and frank are a part of this rescue/escape it a pretty big piece of information....
wolveman: dark will be back soon...like in any day and i am sure he will have plenty of more spoilers for all of you...
if dark has 10+ sources, well they trust him and we need to wait for him to return from his much deserved vacation to hopefully see if we get anything more...
as far as FULL synopsis, this is something that many spoiler lovers actually do NOT want to read, but there are still many of you out there that come here for that reason and i am sure you all will be happy soon...
keep in mind this is not as easy as we know something and we can tell you...sorry, but we do have to build trust in sources and many times we are allowed only to post what they tell us we can post...
for example....dark might tell me so and so will do this, but if he asks me not to say anything i won't...
i hope this helps to clear things up a bit....picking a line between what is a spoiler or NOT or a major one is relative...and after all this IS the spoilers section....
so people just need to be careful and patient at the same time... :)
thanks
the odi
wow, i am 100% sure that we're getting the spectacular kiss now! YAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!! and i hope that sawyer still gets off but isnt counted a oceanic 6. although maybe jack isnt aware that sawyer leaves cos otherwise he wouldnt have said sawyer chose to stay.
i think maybe sawyer changes his mind and stays and thats when him and kate kiss. :)
odi, do you know when we are getting any sneaks peaks for cabin fever? :)
There was a sneak peek on Jimmy Kimmel tonight when Damon and Carlton were on.
Thanks Ryan & ODI. Looks very interesting.
lyly and isabelle: your faith in skate and the spectacular kiss is v. endearing :)
If it is in the raft scene it could almost be like the end of Titanic with Sawyer hanging off the side of the raft before it floats away...maybe that would be just a little too cheesy though!
Thanks for replying Odi.
Just to make it clear, I'm not insulting Dark's sources, I'm just saying that I don't think this is a major spoiler.
You said "I'm not saying I think this is a major spoiler", so why is MAJOR SPOILER written beside it?
I just think that there's been far more spoilerish things in this section that havent gotten the MAJOR SPOILER tag and the little red spoiler triangle, which is what I'm questioning.
Plus:
"...but the fact that sawyer, jin and frank are a part of this rescue/escape it a pretty big piece of information...."
I don't see how it is.
Anyway, thanks for maintaining the site while Dark's away. :)
We know for a fact that the "spectacular kiss" happens off the island. We've also seen Jack and Kate nearly marry each other, so those two kissing wouldn't be a very big deal. Here are my favorite possibilities:
Sayid and Nadia
Desmond and Penny
Hurley and Starla
And that's in order from most likely to least likely, in my opinion. I'm definitely expecting it to be a Sayid and Nadia moment, but with this show, who knows?
I'd also like to say something regarding the confusion surrounding this "major spoiler".
Last year, spoiler sites were the subject of all kinds of finger pointing when it came to Through the Looking Glass being spoiled. It wasn't necessarily the spoiler sites' fault, but rather the readers who were posting spoilers in comments sections and forums all over the internet.
Whether or not this spoiler is major (which is a completely relative term, as The ODI stated above - what may be a major spoiler for some, could be a very minor spoiler for others) the warning is for those who don't want to be spoiled. The season finales usually have significant revelations of secrets and mysteries are therefore are treated somewhat more carefully than a typical episode, as far as spoilers are concerned.
What I'm seeing from this site is an attempt to avoid the heat that spoiler sites received last year as a result of posting finale spoilers, and I completely understand why you're doing it, ODI. Thanks for taking care of the site while Dark is on vacation!
Thanks Lily and The Odi for the update!
My speculations for the spectacular kiss in the season finale are
- Kate and Sawyer
- Ben and Juliet (before J dies, maybe killed by Ben)
- Des & Penny (unlikely)
god first the end of Jacket and now no sign of Juliet, sad, sad, sad
Isabelle: IDK....maybe today....wish I had more info, i have been wondering myself...
Mojave: If anyone has a link to the Jimmy Kimmel sneak please email or post it and I will get it up.
Nicole:
I have a different set of readers on my site than Dark does so I like to play it safe especially when we are dealing with spoilers for the finale or potential last scene of the season.
Like I said it is just a matter of an opinion, since MAJOR here (dark's site) would be like a death reveal or full synopsis or reveal of a secret scene...I can understand why you might not see this as MAJOR...but there are others out there that do and it is just one of those things...:)
As a blogger and one who posts spoilers I feel a sense of responsibility to not spoil someone who is a casual spoiler reader or that does not want to be spoiled...I know there are many casual spoiler readers out there and right when a plot point is revealed, well they are like where was the warning....!?!? :)
So my warning level may be way off for some, but I thinking knowing that the individuals mentioned above are at the point of rescue/escape does reveal a plot point. Sorry if I got your hopes up a bit...that was not my intent.
As I mentioned in my previous post I have recd. emails from some of the spoiler readers here saying that when will there be spoilers from the finale...!? Will we be warned if there is something major...!?
So I just want to play it safe.
Finally what would be a MAJOR spoiler based on some of things I have read and heard in the past well lets not go there...I think at this point if I found out the END of LOST, that would be a MAJOR spoiler...lol...
Thanks for the kind words Nicole, it has been a pleasure to post for all of you here over the last week and I will still be on board to post anything when Dark is sleeping in the UK and I am awake in the US.
So you guys are not going to get rid of me that easily... ;)
ODI
Although it's hard to judge a scene like this out of context, I'm a bit disappointed about them getting away on a life raft.
So I'm thinking this a foiler at this point. Is there a possibility this could be a decoy filming for the finale?
"Although it's hard to judge a scene like this out of context, I'm a bit disappointed about them getting away on a life raft.
So I'm thinking this a foiler at this point. Is there a possibility this could be a decoy filming for the finale?"
C'mon buddy, don't be ridiculous.
i consider this as a major spoiler. mainly cos i have been waiting so long for a sawyer finale spoiler and this is a great one!! :)
its all down to interpretation really and thats why it has to have major spoiler warning on it - cos for some people it is. :)
Please do tell me how that is ridiculous. They've done it before.
@ ben: right on!!! awesome job odi...and after people have been warned there is really no room for confusion :)
@ elisabetta: ben and juliet (that would be a wacky twist..and a little disturbing)
I love the fact Jorge's stunt double sees fit to imitate Hurley even when the cameras ain't rolling ;)
Octagonal-shaped raft - nice touch.
That's Jeff Fahey without a doubt, his stunt double is also present so it looks like we're gonna see Lapidus in the thick of the action. Heroics perhaps?
I wonder how Hurley made it to the raft first, especially as he is holding Aaron...ooooh I'm so excited for the finale!!!
Here is my guess on what happens during this scene....I think that the helicopter crashes...hence the debris & the reason they are swimming to a raft that would probably be aboard a helicopter or airplane. What do you all think?
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Octagonal-shaped raft - nice touch.
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I never even noticed the number of sides on there when I looked at the pics!
Since you didn't formally do it, I'm calling it: DHARMA to the 'rescue'!
(Which, of course, turns out to be nothing more than a heavily shady cover-up.)
The body can't be Claire because EDR hasn't been in Hawaii for some weeks
maybe the body is jin? if he has been spotted on location then maybe sawyer is tring to save jin, but for some reason, they have to go back. or maybe its jack that sawyer is holding? we know jack has just come out of surgury so is bound to weak and not strong enough to swin so maybe sawyer just helps jack out?
@ Isabelle
Sawyer saving Jack therefore proving Kate's line from TTLG wrong?
"Why are you sticking up for Sawyer? He'd never do it for you."
That would be awesome :)
@ Christamc
I think you're right. The promo for Cabin Fever shows the people on the beach looking out to sea accompanied by the sound of a chopper. They look expectant. But some promo photos show the same scene only with looks of concern on their faces. I think for some reason the helicopter crashes in the ocean.
I really hope Lapidus survives the finale :/
Can you please put this spoiler behind a button so one of us who would rather remain spoiler-free for the finale don't accidentally see the pics or read the text?
Thanks
OMG!!! Thank you Odi, awesome news!
Not only because the character I'm obsessed with (LOL XD) will definitely have an important role but also because seems like Frank will stay on the island and that would be great as I really want to know more about him... YAY!
Sawyer helping Jack?
@Isabelle and T.L.A.
You're so right, Sawyer saving Jack would be way more that I could ever ask for and therefore, AWESOME!
Now it makes sense. Sawyer and Jin are the "other two" Jack mentioned at the trial who "don't make it".
Jin will die if Sawyer doesn't take him back to the island. He makes a very heroic and self sacrificial choice.
Now that is the Sawyer I am coming to know and love.
Eli, coul'd you explain me your post? I dind't understand hehehehe
"My speculations for the spectacular kiss in the season finale are
- Kate and Sawyer
- Ben and Juliet (before J dies, maybe killed by Ben)
- Des & Penny (unlikely)"
And how about Jack and Kate? The big kiss will be off island!
@Ana Paula
Sawyer and Kate are off island too; in the middle of the ocean close to the raft! :D
ana paula - i think the reason elisebetta left jack and kate off the list is because it is unlikely to be them after Something Nice Back Home. not to say they wont kiss again, just that it wont be the season finale kiss.
i the kiss will be one for the skaters! but thats just my opinion. :)
Transmission Ryan has said that EDR is in 4.11, but she is not in the promo photos for 4.12 that show both Kate and Sun holding the baby in different shots on the beach.
Also, there was the photo that looks like EDR at the cabin.
I'm thinking we're going to see EDR go to the cabin in 4.11, something ambiguous will happen, the O6 will not know where she is at the time the rescue/escape starts, and she will not be in 4.12, 4.13 or 4.14.
Just a guess.
Wow it's hard to believe it is almost Finale time again!
If Sawyer and Jin are there I wonder what happens that they don't get rescued?
As for the kiss, I really hope it does not involve anyone in the triangle. Both Kate and Jack and Kate and Sawyer have had their moments. For it to be spectacular, it better be a different couple. Maybe a couple we wouldn't expect!
I don´t think it´s Jack who Sawyer is holding. Even though it proove Kates line wrong "He´d never do it for you", why should he swim back to the beach after bringing him to the raft.
There must be another reason and he´s either just helping someone injured/unconcious to the raft and made his decision to stay before that or his decision to stay would be made in last second just to bring that person back. That would be very heroic and IMO it would put Jacks future behavior in a bad light. Would he really be mad at Kate for doing Sawyer a favour if Sawyer himself did stay for such an unselfish reason? I doubt that.
Probably Sawyer decided to stay before swimming out. I believe they (Kate and Sawyer) say goodbye for good and that´s when he´s asking her for that favour.
I can't see em' paddling to Fiji so I guess the raft then makes it to the freighter afterall, barring another boat suddenly turning up. I got a vibe from the latest promo that Gault may have had his sympathies swayed toward the losties, although those promos always seem almost purposefully misleading :/
It's most likely that this is real, but does anyone feel that this may be a decoy shoot? It's been said in the past that they have started shooting decoy scenes because important information from the first 2 seasons got out to the public before it aired. There's a possible chance that they were filming other scenes and decided to shoot this possibly knowing it would leak on the internet.
I don't know, but I think Gault is not a bad guy... he's definitely not a saint but I don't think he's as bad a Keamy the frog... XD
Um...so wheres the spoiler? They leave on a raft? Is that it? In terms of everything that's been said about the finale so far, the info in this article is nothing.
The mechanism by which they leave the island has only been speculated about up to this point.
@captaintek3304
Well, this spoiler proves that Sawyer gets back to the beach and even decides to go back but that something happens that makes him stay.
I'm very happy that Odi decided to put a Big Spoiler Warning-sign on this one. This is a major spoiler, especially for people who wants everything happening in the finale to be a surprise.
I don't think that is Jin on the set. The guy in the close-up shot is the same shirt-less guy wearing board shorts in the first picture, and that definitely isn't him. (plus where would Jin have gotten board shorts) . . . there seem to be random sun-bathers around, like the guy in the background of the jet ski picture, so he is probably just a random
@d comnpetely agree we won't know about Claire till next season! Goes with Darlton saying some of the characters fates will be clear and others will not by finale.
I agree with whoever said it was disappointing to see that strange looking raft is how they escape. It's kind of like, "Really, that's the best you could do?" It's kind of been there done that with Michael's raft. Haha.
And I am speculating that the spectacular kiss will not involve anyone in the triangle - I'm guessing it is between people we would least suspect. I would be so let down if it was Jack and Kate after this week - and if it were Kate and Sawyer too. Since the kiss has been said to be off island, this would be the only way Kate and Sawyer would be awesome in the spectacular kiss.
ODI:
I for one really appreciate everything you've done, you've kept this site alive and kicking and I thank you tremendously.
I agree that it doesn't look like jin in the picture, plus the photo is too small to make that assumption
ODI,
There are a bunch more photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawaii/2461285942/in/photostream/ - that one and the next show Jack in the water yelling and looking around for someone, probably. And there's a great one of Hurley pulling Kate into the raft and Sayid and Sun in the water.
Wow! This is exciting stuff, I can't wait to see it. :)
Sawyer's going to do something incredibly selfless and heroic, I'm sure of it. I don't believe the person he's helping (who isn't moving) could possibly be Claire. They would have made room in the raft for her for sure, even if one of the men had to give up his place for her. So my guess is that it's Jin, and he won't just leave him behind and abandon him. Jin is one of his original raft buddies. I think these scenes will be exciting and heartbreaking, all at the same time.
As to Kate's comment to Jack about how Sawyer "wouldn't do it for you", I think we clearly know she's wrong based on the excellent scene wherein Sawyer told Jack about his conversation with Christian in Australia. IMO, Kate has always underestimated Sawyer's capacity for goodness.
Odi - Thanks very much for looking after the store so well while Dark was away. I totally agree with your call to mark this as a major spoiler. Better to air on the side of caution, I think.
I believe they (Kate and Sawyer) say goodbye for good and that´s when he´s asking her for that favour.
Him swimming out to the raft to say goodbye and ask her to look in on his kid would be a pretty touching scene. : )
According Darlton on Kimmel last night, there are going to be several kisses in the finale. So in true Lost fashion I'm guessing that you the viewer get to determine which one is indeed spectactular. ; )