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Update: 10th June A number of people have been emailing me asking to see the original Lostfan108 spoilers. So here is the original for you all to see.
FINALE -- EP 413-4
Spoiler highlights include:
FLASHFORWARDS We return to the final scene from last year's finale with Jack at the airport screaming to Kate that they have to go back to the island as she drives off. We now see Kate brake hard, return to Jack - -he thinks she's changed her mind -- but she tells him he's lost it and to stay away from her and Aaron. She also makes a reference to a mysterious "he" -- the person in the obit that Jack showed her. She says "he" came to see her and said the same thing to her that he said to Jack, but that she isn't buying it...
Sayid visits Hurley in the asylum, asks if the mysterious "he" has visited him. And that "he" is now dead.
ISLAND STORY
Alpert and The Others (with Kate and Sayid) attack Keamy, liberating Ben.
On the freighter, they realize the bomb is tied to the device that Keamy is carrying. If he dies, the bomb blows. But Michael uses some kind of freezing liquid to slow down the process so the bomb doesn't immediately trigger.
Jack makes it to the Orchid. He and Locke have another of their debates about whether everyone should leave the island or not. Locke convinces Jack that if he wants to leave, he has to lie about the island back at civilization. It's the only way to protect the island and survivors...
Ben killls Keamy in revenge for killing his daughter (Keamy followed Ben and Locke down the elevator to the Orchid).
On the chopper, Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley lift off with Lapidus piloting. But the chopper is damaged and can't carry them all. Sawyer gives Kate a farewell kiss and jumps out (safely) so the others can make it to the freighter. This is the talked about kiss. It's hardly earth-shattering.
In the Orchid, Ben explains to Locke some crazy idea that the island can move not only in space but also in time. Apparently there's some kind of giant wheel which is entombed in ice that can move the island. (I wish I was making that up).
The chopper makes it back to the freighter, picks up Sun and Aaron. The bomb goes off, killing Michael. Jin is thrown into the water -- looks like he might be dead, but I doubt it. I'll bet Jin will be back next season. Anyway, Jack refuses to go back for Jin because he thinks the chopper is too heavy and that's why Sun is pissed at him.
Back at the Orchid, Ben knows that my turning the frozen wheel, he'll also teleport somewhere else -- (and by the parka he puts on, we know he'll teleport to the desert, as shown in a previous ep).
Ben chips away at the ice around the frozen wheel and manages to turn it so that...yep, the island moves. I kept hoping right up to this point that it was a fake-out and that Ben had some other plan. But no, the island (and even the surrounding islands) all move. I firmly believe that in future years, this scene will be looked back on as the moment when a once great show totally destroyed its credibility. An entire island moving? Through a frozen wheel?
Anyway, the last flashforward is a continuation of the scene from last year's finale where Jack is in the funeral parlor in front of the coffin. Ben approaches him -- he's been following him -- and Jack tells him that "he" told him has to go back to the island.
Then Ben tells him that they have to take "him" back too. They look down to the coffin and inside we see the dead body of...Locke.
Locke is the "he" that all the flashforwards have been referencing. Somehow he must' ve made it back to civilization , but got killed.
The plan must be to return Locke ot the island and somehow resurrect him -- an idea that's up there with the frozen wheel and moving the island. (Remember Hurley telling Jack that Charlie warned him "you're not supposed to raise him" That may have been a reference to resurrecting Locke, not raising Aaron as his child).
Update: 13:30 GMT Well it seems that ABC/Disney have now requested that Dailymotion motion to remove the video. I won't be re-uploading the video again I'm afraid so you will have to look through the comments to see the spoilers. I'm not going to start playing a copyright dance with the video hosting companies ;) It's a shame that no one from ABC contacted me as a simple email would have sufficed. I'll re-upload the video after the episode has aired so that we can see how accurate these were. Update: 20th May I've just found out that Brightcove removed the video at the request of ABC/Disney. Update: 20th May New Video has been added after the last one was removed. Update: 14:00 There have been a number of questions in the comments and rather than trying to reply to them all I'll post some answers here.
1) What is posted is EXACTLY what Lostfan108 sent me. 2) None of the text is mine. They are all his own words and comments. 3) As I've said a 1000 times, these are highlight and there are obviously a lot of scenes that are in the episode that are NOT described here. 4) Everything I have from Lostfan108 is posted. I am not holding anything back. 5) Lostfan108 has a good track record (Full spoilers for Greatest Hits, S3 Finale, Part 1 of There's No Place like Home)
As promised here is the the post by Lostfan108 for parts 2 and 3 of the Finale. Please read the following notes before playing.
1) Only discuss the contents of the this post in THIS THREAD. Anyone posting details from here in any other thread will get a LIFETIME BAN on the whole site. 2) As with all major spoilers if you take them to another site please post responsibly. 3) This is just a HIGH-LEVEL Synopsis and not a detailed blow by blow account like Insiderscoop or Post-Produxtion and no doubt will large a large number of scenes missing. 4) Although this is the real Lostfan108 there is no 100% guarantee that this is real. He may have been got to :) although I'm 99.9% sure this is totally legit. 5) Any Typo's, grammar etc etc are all his. This is taken direct from his email. 6) These spoilers would have been released by Lostfan108 today regardless of me, hopefully by releasing in this controlled manner we can minimise the impact to Lost fans who don't want to know. Warnings have been sent out to the major Lost sites last week as well the warning post last week in order that they can prepare for trolls and other idiots who will try to spoil people.
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Did I not read correctly? What happened to Desmond?
Also, I have to laugh at who was in the coffin. I'm pretty sure Foxy or someone told us last summer exactly who was in the coffin, but that it may change. So, it's funny that it never did change.
why in the world are they so anxious to get back to the island? john obviously wasn't jack's best friend, but now just because john said to go back, he is psychologically shredded to pieces thinking about it?
whats the point in moving the island? desmond? what were the scenes in the boat for, just post-helicopter crash? if the island moves in time too, where do they end up in time and how? or do they not move in time much, which is when ben seems smugly satisfied when he doesn't really move in time much when he teleports? how do they get back to civilization? the spoilers end at them landing at the boat? why do they have to take locke back?
hmm... i feel kind of disapointed.... maybe ive just hyped up the finale but...
also all that bloody hype of "spectacular"? "hardly-earth-shattering" doesn't really fit with that does it... guess darlton just wanted the viewing rates and thats why they plugged it so much... kind of relieved being a jater though - (thats not attack on skaters before you all start on me) ... although i was hoping they'd be some more news about jate scenes....
Underwhelming. Ben killing Keamy is some poetic justice to look forward to and I have no doubt Locke will indeed be resurrected but Jesus...a frozen wheel?!
Locke's death had a huge impact...until I read that he'll probably be resurrected. It's taking it...much too far.
Now, if Locke stays dead I can accept this finale as the most mind-blowing yet. But the fact that he can be resurrected...well...they may as well have put Jacob in the coffin.
So, this is just the first hour, right? I can´t believe they are lying because Locke said so... What happens with Desmond? Where is Walt? Penny? Widmore? Christian? They were all credited in the guest list. This is just too weird.
12:52am california...I was about to turn in and decided to look one more time...I'm so excited I had to post BEFORE I read the spoiker or any comments.....whoo-hoo away I go
Wow, I hope that plays out better when I watch than the way it sounds. Which is lame. No real big surprises there. Except I'd like to know what happens to Desmond. I don't know how Locke ends up off the island but somehow I'm sure Ben will be responsible.
I think this spoiler is missing out a lot of stuff. According to the press release, we're going to see Walt, Michael's mom, Charles Widmore, Penny and that guy who looks like Jack from the arctic station.
Is this only Part 2 of the Finale or is this including Part 3?
It's weak enough to be. But I honestly believe this is the real deal. Maybe I expected too much but regardless of the fact this is only on paper...it's weak. Locke was put in that box for nothing more than shock value.
I agree with the ppl saying sounds kinda lame! Hoping there is alot that has been left out to surprise us!! Where's Penny? Does Desmond get off the freighter in time???
What happened to Sawyers big game changer scene?? Feelin fkn ripped off for sawyer this year..
Locke's visiting the O6 in the FFs saying they need to go back, but it turns out he's in the coffin, but will probably be resurrected.
There's a giant frozen wheel in the Orchid that shifts the Island in time and space (though unpredictably). Ben puts on the parka before turning it.
Ben kills Keamy for Alex.
The kiss is not so spectacular, exactly as predicted. Helicopter, Sawyer jumps off. It's a goodbye.
The freighter explodes eventually, killing Michael. Jin falls into the water, everyone thinks he's dead, Jack won't let them go back for him though Sun thinks he could still be alive.
Ben's been following Jack for awhile, finds him at the funeral parlor.
...I'm missing stuff. I think. I really like this amount of spoilers. I feel satisfied without being ruined. Mmm, answers.
I call bull--- not on all of it but maybe some,,, we are all ready for some thing we would believe anything posted... there must be more.. I don't see all that happening in 2 hours.. there has to be more...
aliamba - thanks a lot! Really helpful summation. I think this might play out much more effectively on screen - quite a lot of dramatic human interaction rather than flashy game-changers. The only problem is, the online fandom has guessed a lot of it beforehand.
it's too strange. when I arrived to the last shot I thought "it can't end in this way, maybe it's the player, so I restart watch, but..." it seems like something is missing.
WHAT ABOUT DES AND PENNY AND ABADDON??? and Walt? where are they?
Alot of infomation seems to be missing. Which is good i guess (ie Walt, Michaels Mum, Widmore, Penny, Canlde etc).
Though if that is really the end of the episode? Not really that shocking.
It sounds like it gives us no hints how season 5 will play out... (What will they show? we've seen what happens after they get off the island) Where the island moved (when in time)... Will it continue on from this flash forward... Ben was sent into the future, does that mean the island was... Filming reports saw Desmond at the funeral parlor, yet there is NO mention of him (atall)...
Are im more confused then ever.
Anyways, just asking Dark. Lostfan108 says that scene in the video is the scene just before 'LOST'? Disappointing.
I'm sure there is more. I mean...we KNOW that there's more.
I dunno. I really like this. We got all the 'big' answers, and there will still be more. So the people who don't care about being surprised won't be (i.e. us) but there'll still be tons of good story.
well, when this guy posted spoilers for the first part it sounded like crap filler, and he (and others) thought so too, but i really liked it.this time, it sounds incomplete, and is missing info on charecters that weve been told were going to see. If lostfan is someone involved in production,maybe they just pooped out a bunch of info to fool us into being double suprised when we see it.
I don't think that this video is the ALL things that happen in the two hour season finale, as Dark have said before that these are the highlights from the two episodes, the main important points; so don't feel to be fooled or decepted - we will get more than what we read. Also I have doubts that John Locke is in the coffin... I think he will be changed in post-production or smth. Remember that Hurley said it was him that sit on the chair at Jacob's cabin in 4x01 right? So it may be someone else in the coffin, just wait and see, I still have hope because I like the thought of Locke about belief.
This sounds more like something some fan made up based off the promos.
If it is true then this isn't what the writers made it out to be.
I thought we were getting some answers this season finale not fifty more questions. We're more than a third of the way through the show and things still make no sense.
Ohh yeah and what about seeing the Temple. You'd think we at least have a look at it or something. They mentioned it last season and still were left with nothing. That's a pretty important spoiler to leave out too if it is in the episode.
Dark is awesome but this final will make me want to, well go find a frozen wheel and find a way to change it.... if they can just bring him back why not Charlie or Eko?
I thought they caught this asshole who was leaking all the spoilers to the internet anyways so how is he able to know all this stuff. I know it's our faults, but temptation.
I'll eat my words if need be but it sounds like everyone wants it SO desperatly to be fake because the idea is well....lame....
But i think it's just TPTB that have jumped jaws ith this....
Like i say i'll eat my words - but im pretty sure it's unfortunatly real... and a SYNOPSIS so of course it's missing some things out - i know a lot of people don't care about shipping but there was supposed to be several kisses as well and only one is mentioned so.... i think we'll just have to act like Nations and wait,watch and see...
I agree it's pretty lame.Jack lying about the whole thing just because of Locke? Michael dying before he even start to really get involved in the story?Locke in the coffin and Jack/Ben taking him back to island to make him alive again?(this is really shit)Jack who doesn't even care about the people he left on the island? What does it supposed to mean? I'm really disappointed. I know I haven't seen the whole episode, but the facts given here are enough for me to say they pretty much ruined my expectations. The only thing I'm happy about is Ben alive and in the action.
frozen wheel huh? well you have to keep a positive outlook here, after all it could be worse.Lets say what if it was a cheese wheel, i mean time travel based on aged cheddar, or be glad it wasnt say a wheel of fortune, granted im sure the cash and prizes would be sweet, also Vanna White might be as old as Richard Alpert. to be honest i think this show probally peaked with suspense on the season 3 finale, its hard to really keep the same intensity when a certain amount of mystery has been revealed.
Hmm...if lostfan108 is involved in post-production somehow then the coffin scene may not be correct.
I'm just remembering how they filmed four people in the coffin. Perhaps lostfan108 was involved with Team Locke, while others were with Team Desmond and whoever else was filmed in the coffin that day.
Perhaps this is what lostfan108 BELIEVES to be true. It could still be true of course, there's a 25% chance - but not necessarily.
Sorry...just thinking aloud. I'm probably way off.
Frozen wheels? What the hell is that? Instead of using a big particle accelerator or anything science-like to make-believe their sci-fi vision, they used "frozen wheels"? What are we? 10 year olds?
The next thing we know the Smurfs will be on the island.
People saying its lame just haven't got their expectations come true. I am, in part, one of them. I think they could make it more sophisticated. But anyway. Those who read Harry Potter books probably remember last summer fever when 10 or so days before official "Deathly Hallows" appearance in the stores so-called "carpet-version" of the book leaked. It was not clear was it real deal or fake. But absolutely most of readers of carpet-book say "its fake! nice try, but we wanna real one! JKR couldn't write such crap!". But this appear to be real indeed.
So, just, accept it. Hey, still most of your fav characters are alive! And Locke is going to be resurrected. As for Locke, from the first moment seeing that scene in TTLG I felt it was him, while it was damn illogical. Gee, first time in my life my intuition didn't fail me)
Every finale there has been a awesome twist right at the end!!
Where is this seasons twist? Nothing happens...... Locke in the coffin, we knew that already pretty much. Resurection isnt a twist, just new knowledge. But God Damn! Give me a twist. Or resurect other characters!!!
What about the pictures Ryan brought us of all the O6 in the water with Desmond and the life raft?
They were swiming among debri...struggling to get to that raft.
And we've had information about other kisses in the finale. And why would Jack, who tried to kill Locke just a couple of weeks ago island time suddenly agree to lie just because he said so? And why would the rest of the O6 agree?
I think we're missing a lot of info here, which is fine by me, I'd rather get some surprises. But some things don't add up.
Do you all think TPTB got to Lostfan108? His description last year was a lot more detailed.
Just because Locke may be able to be resurrected doesnt mean that possibility is there for anyone thats died.
Lets not forget Locke is very special, and very important to the island, is it a stretch that he can walk all of a sudden once hes on the island? Of course, is it that much more of a stretch than the island can resurrect him from the dead if his body is brought back?
This raises an interesting question about Christian Shepherd is he also special to the island and has been raised from the dead once his coffin landed on the island?
if we're missing info great... what sucks is the frozen donkey, wheel and the quest to raise Locke from the dead... those things shape the show not he lame kisses..
I always thought it was Locke in the coffin. Why? Because I figured once he left the island, all that walking on island magic would have caught up with him and his legs would practically rotting. I figured his legs got amputated and that is why the coffin was small. No legs.
Guys, Dark said this is only the "main parts of the finale", not the WHOLE part of the finale. Also Hurley said that there will be a huge twist, but I assume that the other characters beside the super secret scene don't know what's going to happen, if you consider the interviews with Sayid, or Sawyer, or Hurley; they all say they were shocked after watching season 3 finale. So if Jorge says there is a HUGE TWIST, it should be happening in a scene where he is included, and I don't see any Hurley name on that Jack-Ben-coffin scene, just wait and see.
Darlton won't be making a huge twist by revealing that Locke is in the coffin - but guess that they did, there comes the questions like how Locke got off the island? Why did he got of the island? Why did he die? Did he commit suicide? Was Charlie a reason that he did that? And does the island have the ability to "resurrect" someone? If so, how? As you see, there comes so many questions for this topic.
the best part of last weeks ep was everyone walking intercut with ben giving up to keamy, I thought anyway. Theres like 10 moments like that in this one, if you think ben shooting keamy is gonna be cut and dry your nuts..your probably going to cheer or laugh or something, this whole show isnt about the figure it out shit.but yes, a frozen wheel? I always knew time travel worked like a big clock, none of that fancy wormhole stuff, just turn the dial! WTF???
But we know Locke is special and we know the island can heal people that can't walk so if your important enough maybe it can resurrect the dead. Yes its a stretch but we accept that the island has these special healing powers, and the island can make guns jam if your still needed so is it that much more of a stretch that the island can resurrect somebody from the dead thats very important?
Ok if it could happen to anyone that dies i agree it changes the rules somewhat but im guessing its only very special people that have the possibility of being resurrected by the island and Locke falls into that category.
Yeah, a good majority of fans cried that lostfan 108's Season 3 finale synopsis was fake and/or a foiler, that the writers wouldn't do this, and that Lost fans had good enough intuitions to sniff out a fake.
Of course, that's always possible, but look how wrong everyone was last year.
I really wish some people would read the introduction text first.
I write it for a reason.
Oh and Nicolas, if you continue to type all in CAPS your posts will be deleted. If you can't follow the simple rules for this site then you will be banned.
guys, of course this is true. dark recieved it when he received part 1 and that was true. And of course we will be disappointed reading it, but we will have to watch it to get the full impact. have faith in tptb people!
for example, reading that locke can be resurrected sounds a bit farfetched to say the least, but just wait til you here emerson deliver the line. it will blow us all away! :)
Fake. Maybe somebody got to lostfan108, and told him to post these foilers *if thats what they realy are*, in return for seeing the actual episode before anyone else... but why wouls kate not want to go to lockes funeral? Thats just crazy 0_o
Hold on... why are people so damned upset? Didnt we already suspend disbelief long before A FUCKING COLUMN OF SMOKE TRIED TO SWALLOW LOCKE! Clearly, this "island" is not an island at all but a cover for something else entirely. I always knew this show must have something to do with aliens/alien technology. I think people's problem with the fucking "wheel" is that the damned idiots are picturing a magical wheel with spokes that does its voodoo and moves the island. I'm thinking more along the lines of something alien and advanced, but continue your bashing anyway. We'll miss you next season (not).
Yeah, I really don't have a problem with a frozen wheel. Whatever. It's Dharma technology. I'm sure there's more to it than just a wheel. That's actually one of the most believable parts to me.
Jack promised to get everyone off the island. That's a good reason for going back. He feels remorse for leaving Jin, and everyone else. Looks like S5 and S6 will be a huge battle to find the island.
I still just want to punch somebody over the whole freighter thing, though. IT's not that complicated. You pull out the blasting caps and toss the c4 over the side of the ship for the dharma shark to choke on. If you think the caps could be rigged, you cut around them with a knife, leaving a very small amount of C4 on each blasting cap. get some pipe and shove it in the ends, put the other ends of the pipe up in the air. It goes boom, but just makes a nice fireworks display. IT would not have taken long to do that with as many people as their were on the freighter. 30 minutes, maybe 45. It's just a big headache for me to think this would have ever been a threat. Let Keamy go, don't get in his way, and as soon as he is off the boat, start yanking caps. Why is this so hard to understand? I just think it was weak. Aside from that, nothing else makes me want to pull my hair out.
Nontheless this is going to be interesting either way, it seems many people think the spoilers are wrong or lacking crucial information, bottomline, we will all get to see on May 29th just like we did last year for season 3.
Dark, I'm from Argentina, and there are some words I don't know, or things I don't understand...
what did you mean with this:
"Oh and Nicolas, if you continue to type all in CAPS your posts will be deleted. If you can't follow the simple rules for this site then you will be banned."
Here's one thing that's bothering me. The heli was damamged and too heavy. Sawyer jumps off and now the chopper can fly just fine, then they pick up Sun and Aaron and the helicopter is still fine? I mean, I know Sun is small and all but she and Aaron are at least 110 pounds together.
Sayer is what? about 150? 160? So the chopper only needed to drop 40-50 pounds? Take out a seat or something, seriously, that doesn't make sense.
And resurrection is SOOOO lame! Come on! Do you know the heat we're gonna be taking from the other dead characters' fans? Not to mention if anyone needs to be resurrected, it's Charlie!
Can someone explain something.. How is Locke in the coffin? If Michael left the island and was unable to die because he had WORK to do.. How come Locke has left the island & somehow got himself killed?? Seems like the island doesn't give a crap about Locke anymore??
I'm pretty disappointed if this all turns out to be true... But, maybe on the screen it has a lot more impact. I was wondering about the raft as well, it doens;t get mentioned in here, but maybe it;s just a synopsis. What about all the other redshirts? Do they get killed in the explosion as well? No words about Claire and Desmond.... Too bad... But I guess we'll have to wait 'till the 29th, and see 4 ourselves what happens.. Anyway, thnx 4 posting!!
Once again, take a look at the guest cast list and see who is missing from this synopsis, even knowing that not every little detail is included in it:
Guest List Guest starring are Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday, Ken Leung as Miles Straume, Rebecca Mader as Charlotte Lewis, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Malcolm David Kelley as Walt, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, John Terry as Christian Shephard, Sonya Walger as Penelope “Penny” Widmore, Alan Dale as Charles Widmore, Kevin Durand as Keamy, Francois Chau as Dr. Marvin Candle, Anthony Azizi as Omar, Alex Petrovitch as Henrik and Starletta DuPois as Michael’s mom.
If they make it back to the island within two days (about half a season on this show) and resurrect John on the third...they'll be cutting pretty close to the bone ;)
But seriously, where does this leave the show's impetus? Ben vs Widmore? We've already seen Widmore's threat. This would be a more apt season 5 finale, with the final impetus being to get back to the island and 'resurrect' Locke etc.
Logically, I think TPTB wrote themselves into a future corner with the excellence of previous seasons and the events that transpired therein. There was always going to come a point when they had to jump a shark to make their next move.
By the way, thanks for posting Dark. Neglected to say that earlier :)
Yes it does raise the question of how Locke dies if the island still needs him, maybe it'll be Whidmore breaking the rules again, but if Ben thinks he needs to go back with them, then obviously Ben still thinks hes important.
There also occurs this question: If Locke, the man of faith, the man of the island, the man that is special, in someway got off the island and died - isn't this a tricky thing? Michael, the guy just shouted "They took my son!", couldn't kill himself because the island didn't want him so; but the island lets Locke to die in someway, doesn't care about him after everything happened about Locke? There should have something gone wrong that leaded John to die, and Ben to think of taking him to island in order to "resurrect" him.
But, although I believe in some contents of this spoiler video, I don't think we still have the correct name for the man in the coffin. Also I don't see a super-secret scene that involves both Ben and Sawyer. As I said twice before that this spoiler video only displays some important PARTS of the finale, not the WHOLE.
I too, think this could be fake. Not 100% sure, but what if some sort of deal was made with lostfan to leak part one of the finale, but he was given mostly false info for parts 2 and 3 which are the more important parts?
I think A LOT of information is missing. A LOT. Based on the characters coming back (Widmore, Penny, Abbadon, Walt, Henrik...) and the secret scenes with Sun and Ben in London AND Sawyer in LA. I wasn't around for spoilergate last year, but I'm not going to pass judgement yet. Whether this is a total hoax or if there is a lot more in store, I still think we're in for some surprises.
Nicolas CAPS means "Mayúsculas" when people post on the internet, if they post everything in MAYUSCULAS, it means they are shouting. It's hard to read too. So Dark is asking you to use mayúsculas y minúsculas when you post. Gracias!
"and the secret scenes with Sun and Ben in London AND Sawyer in LA."
sawyer in LA was a foiler (unfortunately) and ben WAS in london. maybe sun was just visiting or something but i think the london scene was the wodmore and ben one. :)
If the whole Locke thing is true, then i will venture to guess it happened something like this:
(Locke and Ben turn the wheel and both of them get teleported to random different areas) oh no! says Locke as it's revealed that Locke whilst being teleported has lost(no pun intended) his abillity to walk again, did i mention he got teleported to a section of Antarctica that is heavily populated by polar bears? They eat parts of Locke Ben finds his mangled body after searching for the 3 possible places the island could have teleported Locke (all 3 are very desolate, well lacking people that is). Brings him back to the Ghetto to have a funeral for him,invites all the Losties everyone refuses to come, But Kate especially since she doesent want to see the icky mangled remains of John Locke ta da!!!!!!
Would be really funny if the producers just planted this synopsis to mislead us, after their disappointment when last year's final leaked. Because it sounds just like some crap someone has made up based on the trailers and various spoilers already known, plus a guess at who's in the coffin, who dies, and a joke about the frozen wheel. I hope I'm right atleast!
OK, so this finale doesn't seem to cover as many big plot points as many would like, though there's probably multiple 'little' key moments left out in the write-up. As written here, it seems pretty much focused on the actual 'rescue', the fate of the freighter, the introduction of the time-travelling wheel (explanation to follow in S5 no doubt), and Locke's future role as an island-evangelist-cum-suicide. It seems pretty narrow, but I can still see how that could all be done really well once translated and expanded onto screen. Plenty to hold interest for 2 hours! The rescue stuff should be dramatic and even moving (the leaving of Jin should be, that's for certain); the blowing up of the freighter might be very suspenseful (though I agree with an earlier poster that there are flaws here too), especially if you're unspoiled; and the Locke/Ben/T-Travel stuff will be the part most focused on the island's 'mysteries.' Sure, it doesn't answer questions - it's a really big setup for S5. But then that's the point of most finales, isn't it? The Des/Penny story, according to this synopsis, has been shelved for next season it seems. That's not so bad. It's a big part of Lost, and needs appropriate time and attention - mot squeezed into a 2 hour show. Claire's fate is obviously too complicated to cover here as well.
That's what makes no sense about this. I thought the reason the O6 would eventually travel back because they are guilt ridden - that's how it seems Hurley feels when visted by Charlie - and I would think Jack of all people would want to save his sister! I love Locke, but I would be so disappointed if the reason they need to go back, and the reason they lied about the island, is because Locke told them to.
Remember when C And D said: "The volcano on the island will be of seismic importance, pun very much intended" well perhaps when they turned the Wheel to make the Island move this caused some seismic disturbances that we will see later in the show...eh? tell me what you think.
something that you are not taking into consideration... a device that could change the location and space/time continum of the island and the people on it... That would classify as "super sensitive" in my book. What do you do when you have a problem with credit card debt? You put the credit card in a big block of ice so that it can't be used easily. Wouldn't you want the same type of protection for something slightly more important than a credit card? I could be wrong... cryogenics, perhaps... yanno, kelvin scale... absolute zero... like 270something degrees Ferenheit below zero... like so cold that nothing can live...
nor sure where I was going with this. It's 5am-ish. I've been up for 32 hours waiting for the spoilers. Thanks.
Another thought just came to me that would support this being a hoax... I don't remember what the code name for the secret scene for the finale last year, but it seems that for thie finale, 'Frozen Donkey Wheel' seems to be taken pretty literally, with the exception of the donkey part...
i remember darlton talking about charlottes name (C.S Lewis) and saying that that is a clue to where we will be going at the end of the season (narnia?).
Another thought just came to me that would support this being a hoax... I don't remember what the code name for the secret scene for the finale last year, but it seems that for thie finale, 'Frozen Donkey Wheel' seems to be taken pretty literally, with the exception of the donkey part...
------------------------------------- Exactly what I said.
Thanks for posting, Dark! I don't think it's fake at all, but I can't help to be a little disappointed. Probably, I just need to metabolise the news. In fact, if someone who never watched Lost asks us "What Lost is all about" and we say: "You know, there's this plane crashing on an island, there are 48 survivors but they seems to be all related to each other in some way and on this island there's a black smoke column, whispers and a guy who lives in a cabin and dead people keep walking around" then it would be probably look like an awful tv show which actually is not, as we all know, LOL! Maybe Isabelle is right, it's going to be far better on the screen. At least, I hope so. And by the way, TPTB said that S5 will be based on O6 to get back to the island. I don't think it will only depends on Locke and anyway, a lot needs to be still explained to make sense.
If this is foiler and TPTB have something much better up their sleeves then they will have achieved something truly Machiavellian.
But I think this is the real deal folks. In all it's glory, or otherwise ;)
Personally, I think Locke is sent off-island on a mission from Jacob to try and succeed where ghosts Charlie and Christian may have failed. The 'island won't let you die' schtick was dropped in favor of good ol' shock value. Hence John in the box.
As much as I love Locke, I'd rather he be really dead (because he got transfered off the island somehow and committed suicide), then this whole frozen donkey shit and resurection.
I do understand why Jack is leaving everyone behind but Jin in the water? Of course they cannot take him because Sawyer had to jump. But let's say he's alive and needs help? Wouldn't it be natural that Sayid or Jack give him their seat? Many could be hurt in the water and they don't even have a doctor on the island. I understand Sun for blaming Jack. Let's be honest, Kate in the water? Jack would have tried to help her.
I think the finale will be more moving with the people who stay behind and that with good music.
I don't think I'm gonna like the kiss. It's dramatic but sounds very cheesy. A goodbye without a kiss would be fine, too.
i really didnt want locke to die cos i had a problem with killing off the whole faith side of things, but now i think that this is the thing that will make jack start believing in faith, and i am so glad that locke will be resurrected. i just hope that he isnt unconscious for a whole season....
if locke gets off the island, then that allows us to hope that maybe others like sawyer, juliet, des etc are able to leave at some point too :)
Amazingly enough, after reading that, I only have one question:
If Ben travels from the moment they turn the "wheel" to tje desert, when would he have found time to learn about Nadia's death, and who killed her, which he later told Sayid? Hurtling through time and space seems an odd time to catch up. Or, change your shirt, as someone has already pointed out.
It dosen't sound like Locke just got beamed off the island, became despondant and killed himself. Apparently he's been visiting people.
@ Isabelle
I don't think he'll be AWOL for too long. I envisage something like the current flashforwards becoming the present and island events (up to and including Locke's departure) being told through flashbacks or something of that nature. Either way, I don't think Locke will be absent from our screens for very long :)
It's soooo weak, I wish it would be fake but I think it is real.... Where is the temple? where are Penny, Henrik, Walt, Michael's mom, Miles, Charlotte, Daniel ? What about Four-toe statue. Claire and Christian were supposed to show up. I am so disappointed
You know, I kind of want this to be true. As lame as it sounds, I'm just glad that they didn't kill Desmond.
But I have a theory about what the "Frozen Donkey Wheel" really means.
So we already have been informed of the whole frozen wheel portion of the puzzle, but what about the donkey?
What I haven't yet heard anyone mention is the alternate name for a donkey, Jackass. (Can I say Jackass here? If not, sorry I'm new lol)
Perhaps this whole "Frozen Wheel" business was thrown out there by TPTB in order to make the spoiler-loving community feel like Jackasses for believing something so far-fetched.
"Where is the temple? where are Penny, Henrik, Walt, Michael's mom, Miles, Charlotte, Daniel ? What about Four-toe statue. Claire and Christian were supposed to show up. I am so disappointed"
we probably will still see all those things. if you read darks text about it, he says this is not a blow by blow account. just the major points.
Jack and Ben are in front of the coffin together. In TTLG Jack actually leaves the funeral home. Remember, he walks out of the funeral home and goes for his pills, hes out of pills so he gets pissed. For him and Ben to be in front of the coffin would have to mean that Jack went back to the coffin. This just seems highly unlikely.
DarkUFO - - Thanks for posting the sypnosis. Just like you said you would. I am still in shock (Locke in the coffin!).
Some people might believe what we just read or maybe not, but I think I speak for everybody here when I say that your work and dedication to Lost fans is highly appreciated.
I am not disappointed by this at all.. Assuming this *is* true of course.
What I have understood from the spoilers so far -
1. Locke contacted Jack and tried to convince him to go back. This means that Locke wasn't immediately dead after moving the island or something. So something else happened, which required Jack to go back. But Jack is reluctant to do so because he is a man of science, not a man of faith. The way Jack broke down when Locke dies tells me that he now realises that Locke was right all along and that he made a mistake coming back from the island. Now he has unfinished business and he has to go back and finish it. He wants Kate to be there for emotional support.
2. Ben has become my favorite character in the last 6, 7 episodes. I would consider Ben to be someone like Zeus. He is the leader and he *has* to be the leader, irrespective of his mistakes. That is the protocol. The king should remain king [Think of the movie 'Hero' starring Jet Li, about his views on the Chinese Emperor].
3. Ben needs help from Jack, Sayid etc. He cannot complete his business alone.
4. If Locke needs to be resurrected, that means that Locke has some control over protecting the island which no one else does. Perhaps after resurrecting him, he becomes Jacob. May be Jacob was actually killed and resurrected too.
I am guessing that at the end, we will see Locke becoming Jacob, Jack becoming Ben, Ben retiring, Kate and Sawyer getting together and leaving the island.
man what was the point in bringing michael back? they must have had much bigger plans for him before the writers strike but he has really done nothing this whole season, he has had like 5 scenes not including his flashback ep. i wonder if harold perrineau is pissed that he got such a small part in the story arc. he seems like the kind of actor that would be pissed if he wasnt a major player, seeing as though when the show started he was one of the most acclaimed actors to be cast
after having calmed down a bit it is time to be fair: season4 is somehow a filler-season. obviously season3 ending was very powerful and it set the tone that the most exciting stuff will somehow happen in the future...which hopefully will already be told in season5 and not only season6...i have feelings that season5 will also be like season4...
a few thoughts: 1) why did locke leave the island? for sure not because of the wheel. maybe he was expelled by forces unknown (abaddon?). 2) resurrection, if it can be called so, only works for important characters. i have no problems seeing locke come somehow back if that alcoholic could do so. locke in ghost form is probably anyways better ;-) 3) the donkey wheel sucks. desmonds travels and daniels work somehow have been reduced to unimportance by the existance and power of the wheel 4) i REALLY think abaddon and penny work together 5) obviously if the island falls into bad hands something very dangerous can happen to the planet, jack seems to learn this and i really guess that this happens during season5 and culminates in locke's death 6) BEN rules
It is my understanding TPTB wanted to bring Michael back to answer the questions of how he got off the island and what happened to him and Walt.
However, HP was upset about being written off and bargained really hard when Darlton wanted him back. Thus he got a Regular contract when a guest starring contract would have been enough.
My guess is that Darlton's plan was always to show Michael's story, and then continue with a grown up Walt in the future. But their plan with Michael was a short one, only to address our questions about what happened to Michael and Walt. Let's face it, the fans were clamoring for those answers and Darlton knew they'd have to bring HP back.
I'm ok with the story arc. If Michael dies trying to save the very people he betrayed, there's som epoetic justice in that.
That said, poor Walt, he's now a complete orphan, traumatized by island events, freaky and with no one to talk about it all.
Well there is a huge difference between getting mad about Flashforwards like some where when last seasons finale synopsis was leaked out and something as stupid and ridicoulous as moving the island with a frozen wheel.
If we just forget about it being a worthless plot and jump the shark moment, it's also by no means explainable scientifically. Moving an island would cause earthquakes going off the richterscale.
The thing with Locke was cool though.
If this whole frozen wheel moving **** happens I'm gonna be so dissappointed that I really won't be looking forward for the rest of Lost.
I had suspected Michael in the coffin at first, because well, it just seemed obvious. Then they said, and it was Darlton who said it that they had first chosen Locke to be in the coffin and that it had in fact changed. So, when I saw that the person shocked Dark I idn't think Locke being in there would be very shocking at this point since we'd been told once or twice that he was supposed to be in there originally. *scratch head*
Frozen wheel .... gosh, I hope they don't get any stupider.
Thanks for the info Dark. I don't think it's lame. But yes it seems this season finale will be not so good at least not good like the season 3 finale.
As for the kiss, i think it will be spectacular and emotional. Dartlon saied that a couple of times so i trust them. It's all about personal election, so i quess this "lostfan 108" is a non-snipper or not so much invested in the romance on the show.
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This is awesome
Wowzers.
Did I not read correctly? What happened to Desmond?
Also, I have to laugh at who was in the coffin. I'm pretty sure Foxy or someone told us last summer exactly who was in the coffin, but that it may change. So, it's funny that it never did change.
THANK YOU DARK
Well i find it pretty lame o0
but what about the 4 toed statue? didnt they say that would be explained before the season ended?
also that sounds like content enough for maybe the first half
What...
This is not the finale I was expecting :(
This is actually ...quite lame.
Darn it.
After reading that, I don't actually feel that spoiled. So what happens to Desmond then?
I haven't read it, I just need to know, Desmond and Sawyer survive right?
Thanks for posting this! A lot of it had been guessed already.
I guess we're all getting better at predicting Lost plotlines.
It sets up the next season nicely, although is there anyone here doubting that Jin is alive and that Locke WILL be resurrected? I don't think so.
Sorry about this but reading this sort of thing in work is never a good play. Any chance someone can post it in there?
Sorry!
if by awesome, you mean lame as hell, yes.
why in the world are they so anxious to get back to the island? john obviously wasn't jack's best friend, but now just because john said to go back, he is psychologically shredded to pieces thinking about it?
whats the point in moving the island?
desmond?
what were the scenes in the boat for, just post-helicopter crash?
if the island moves in time too, where do they end up in time and how? or do they not move in time much, which is when ben seems smugly satisfied when he doesn't really move in time much when he teleports?
how do they get back to civilization? the spoilers end at them landing at the boat?
why do they have to take locke back?
Also, it's quite funny that the "Frozen Donkey Wheel" is exactly what it says:
A giant frozen wheel xD
hmm... i feel kind of disapointed.... maybe ive just hyped up the finale but...
also all that bloody hype of "spectacular"? "hardly-earth-shattering" doesn't really fit with that does it... guess darlton just wanted the viewing rates and thats why they plugged it so much... kind of relieved being a jater though - (thats not attack on skaters before you all start on me) ... although i was hoping they'd be some more news about jate scenes....
Can we get any details on Desmond. For the sake of me falling asleep tonight I shall assume that hes alive, but confirmation would be nice.
Underwhelming. Ben killing Keamy is some poetic justice to look forward to and I have no doubt Locke will indeed be resurrected but Jesus...a frozen wheel?!
TPTB: Last seen riding a shark into the distance.
Hmm...somewhat disappointing.
Michael's death has no impact on me.
Locke's death had a huge impact...until I read that he'll probably be resurrected. It's taking it...much too far.
Now, if Locke stays dead I can accept this finale as the most mind-blowing yet. But the fact that he can be resurrected...well...they may as well have put Jacob in the coffin.
So, this is just the first hour, right?
I can´t believe they are lying because Locke said so...
What happens with Desmond?
Where is Walt? Penny? Widmore? Christian? They were all credited in the guest list.
This is just too weird.
locke needing to be resurrected is kinda not as cutting edge as I thought this would be..
This smells like a fake, doesn`t it?
Hi - the player isn't loading for me. Can someone be kind enough please to state the main points of the spoiler? Much appreciated!
OMG and WTF!!!!
those of you who say its lame, just remember - it will be better on screen! :)
wow, sawyer lives to fight another day!!! yay! and poor jin and sun...:(
and locke...WTF...just thinking about it makes my brain hurt!
if lockes doesnt come back to life, i will be mad! :)
12:52am california...I was about to turn in and decided to look one more time...I'm so excited I had to post BEFORE I read the spoiker or any comments.....whoo-hoo away I go
Just to add, as long as any comments aren't risking a ban of course.
i think lostfan108 doesnt think it is spectacular, but at least darlton do! i happy about that! :)
Wow, I hope that plays out better when I watch than the way it sounds. Which is lame. No real big surprises there. Except I'd like to know what happens to Desmond. I don't know how Locke ends up off the island but somehow I'm sure Ben will be responsible.
I think this spoiler is missing out a lot of stuff. According to the press release, we're going to see Walt, Michael's mom, Charles Widmore, Penny and that guy who looks like Jack from the arctic station.
Is this only Part 2 of the Finale or is this including Part 3?
THANKS, DARK!!!
Keamy, damn you, goodbye! I always knew Ben rulezzzzz!
So, Who's in the coffin?
sorry, this is pretty stupid and sounds more like south park than lost ;-)
WHAT ABOUT DES AND PENNY AND ABADDON???
this sounds awful... my faith is disipating...
I have hopes it will play better on scree, although there actually being a frozen wheel is a little meh.
Thanks for the update, nice on the charity, I am sorry for your loss.
This smells like a fake, doesn`t it?
It's weak enough to be. But I honestly believe this is the real deal. Maybe I expected too much but regardless of the fact this is only on paper...it's weak. Locke was put in that box for nothing more than shock value.
Wow, that blows. A frozen wheel? Really?
I call shenanigans. Surely this can't be true.
Thanks Dark!
I agree with the ppl saying sounds kinda lame! Hoping there is alot that has been left out to surprise us!! Where's Penny? Does Desmond get off the freighter in time???
What happened to Sawyers big game changer scene?? Feelin fkn ripped off for sawyer this year..
Ugh, there's a lot...
Locke's visiting the O6 in the FFs saying they need to go back, but it turns out he's in the coffin, but will probably be resurrected.
There's a giant frozen wheel in the Orchid that shifts the Island in time and space (though unpredictably). Ben puts on the parka before turning it.
Ben kills Keamy for Alex.
The kiss is not so spectacular, exactly as predicted. Helicopter, Sawyer jumps off. It's a goodbye.
The freighter explodes eventually, killing Michael. Jin falls into the water, everyone thinks he's dead, Jack won't let them go back for him though Sun thinks he could still be alive.
Ben's been following Jack for awhile, finds him at the funeral parlor.
...I'm missing stuff. I think. I really like this amount of spoilers. I feel satisfied without being ruined. Mmm, answers.
I'm sure there is more to it... What about the scene Yunjin shot in England? Must be with Charles Widmore... No Penny, no Desmond, no Walt???
Øyvind said...
This smells like a fake, doesn`t it?
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT
I call bull--- not on all of it but maybe some,,, we are all ready for some thing we would believe anything posted... there must be more.. I don't see all that happening in 2 hours.. there has to be more...
wow....this sounds ridiculous. the frozen wheel is just too much.
aliamba - thanks a lot! Really helpful summation. I think this might play out much more effectively on screen - quite a lot of dramatic human interaction rather than flashy game-changers. The only problem is, the online fandom has guessed a lot of it beforehand.
this sounds like only part 2...
There's a lot missing...
And Michael now dies?
what did he do to finally die?
This doesn't sound real. It's a two hour episode. This sounds like fifteen minutes of it. Well at least Locke isn't permentely dead
NiCoLaS said...
Øyvind said...
This smells like a fake, doesn`t it?
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT
Monday, May 19, 2008 9:05:00 AM
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God I hope so...
it's too strange. when I arrived to the last shot I thought "it can't end in this way, maybe it's the player, so I restart watch, but..."
it seems like something is missing.
WHAT ABOUT DES AND PENNY AND ABADDON???
and Walt? where are they?
Alot of infomation seems to be missing.
Which is good i guess (ie Walt, Michaels Mum, Widmore, Penny, Canlde etc).
Though if that is really the end of the episode?
Not really that shocking.
It sounds like it gives us no hints how season 5 will play out... (What will they show? we've seen what happens after they get off the island)
Where the island moved (when in time)...
Will it continue on from this flash forward...
Ben was sent into the future, does that mean the island was...
Filming reports saw Desmond at the funeral parlor, yet there is NO mention of him (atall)...
Are im more confused then ever.
Anyways, just asking Dark.
Lostfan108 says that scene in the video is the scene just before 'LOST'?
Disappointing.
It looks like it is NOT all synopsis
Ther's no Walt, Walt's mom, Penny, Charles Widmore and the Guy from Arctic station
A lots is missing
I'm sure there is more. I mean...we KNOW that there's more.
I dunno. I really like this. We got all the 'big' answers, and there will still be more. So the people who don't care about being surprised won't be (i.e. us) but there'll still be tons of good story.
Again: thanks, Dark :)
well, when this guy posted spoilers for the first part it sounded like crap filler, and he (and others) thought so too, but i really liked it.this time, it sounds incomplete, and is missing info on charecters that weve been told were going to see. If lostfan is someone involved in production,maybe they just pooped out a bunch of info to fool us into being double suprised when we see it.
Thanks for posting dark! You're a legend.
I don't think that this video is the ALL things that happen in the two hour season finale, as Dark have said before that these are the highlights from the two episodes, the main important points; so don't feel to be fooled or decepted - we will get more than what we read. Also I have doubts that John Locke is in the coffin... I think he will be changed in post-production or smth. Remember that Hurley said it was him that sit on the chair at Jacob's cabin in 4x01 right? So it may be someone else in the coffin, just wait and see, I still have hope because I like the thought of Locke about belief.
Isn't Sonya Walger supposed to be in the finale? She wasn't mentioned here...
I'm thinking there's either a bunch left out or it's the biggest Lost foiler of all time.
I think this is bull.
This sounds more like something some fan made up based off the promos.
If it is true then this isn't what the writers made it out to be.
I thought we were getting some answers this season finale not fifty more questions. We're more than a third of the way through the show and things still make no sense.
Could it be that lostfan108 uploaded a fake but believable synopsis, so then when we watch it on tv we actually don't get spoiled and be surprised..
Maybe is such a great episode that even the spoiler posters can't spoil it...
I'm just hoping it's fake...
THE FROZEN WHEEL SOUNDS SO STUPID!
If you remember, everyone hated TTLG last year. But that tuned out to be great.
So you can't judge yet, particularly when it's incomplete.
If this is true, this is utterly ridiculous. Lost has officially jumped the shark completely.
I thought the coffin reveal was in the first part? And what about finding out about all that happened with Michael? Doesn't make sense.
lostfan108 had it right last year even when half the posters said it was impossible...
TSR said...
lostfan108 had it right last year even when half the posters said it was impossible...
But this time it isn't just imposible...
It's REALLY ridiculous...
Ohh yeah and what about seeing the Temple. You'd think we at least have a look at it or something. They mentioned it last season and still were left with nothing. That's a pretty important spoiler to leave out too if it is in the episode.
Dark is awesome but this final will make me want to, well go find a frozen wheel and find a way to change it.... if they can just bring him back why not Charlie or Eko?
I have to laugh at everyone who's convinced it's fake. It's like last year all over again.
It fails to mention how exactly the 06 are 'rescued'. Weren't we led to believe it would be some third party that would have us going 'ballistic'?
Unless Locke meets Abbadon during the episode, that's one compelling reason why he will walk again. So to speak.
In the unlikely event it is fake, maybe lostfan108 submitted it as part of his redemption ;)
Didn't Darlton say that the Frozen Donkey Wheel had nothing to do with what the actually gamechanger was. I remember them saying that in a podcast.
hatebox said...
I have to laugh at everyone who's convinced it's fake. It's like last year all over again.
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no kidding
Just because it leaves stuff out doesn't mean it's fake.
Last year a ton of stuff was left out...like Sayid, Jin and Bernard getting captured and Ben's warning to Jack.
sounds off or way incomplete
no mention of the actually rescue, desmond, penny, widmore, jacks dad, marvin candle or the arctic guy.
I thought they caught this asshole who was leaking all the spoilers to the internet anyways so how is he able to know all this stuff. I know it's our faults, but temptation.
I'll eat my words if need be but it sounds like everyone wants it SO desperatly to be fake because the idea is well....lame....
But i think it's just TPTB that have jumped jaws ith this....
Like i say i'll eat my words - but im pretty sure it's unfortunatly real... and a SYNOPSIS so of course it's missing some things out - i know a lot of people don't care about shipping but there was supposed to be several kisses as well and only one is mentioned so.... i think we'll just have to act like Nations and wait,watch and see...
I'm fairly certain that the "game-changer" is resurrection of the dead being possible.
And look, there was tons left out of Part One. This is real.
Frozen donkey wheel sounds lame.
Go Ben for killing Keamy.
And I'm glad it's not Sayid in the coffin, though. *exhales*
Donkey wheel and Magic Box, same thing?
I agree it's pretty lame.Jack lying about the whole thing just because of Locke? Michael dying before he even start to really get involved in the story?Locke in the coffin and Jack/Ben taking him back to island to make him alive again?(this is really shit)Jack who doesn't even care about the people he left on the island? What does it supposed to mean? I'm really disappointed. I know I haven't seen the whole episode, but the facts given here are enough for me to say they pretty much ruined my expectations.
The only thing I'm happy about is Ben alive and in the action.
"i know a lot of people don't care about shipping but there was supposed to be several kisses as well and only one is mentioned so...."
i'm sure there will be. dark said this isnt a blow by blow account, just a synopsis of the major talking points. :)
I think this is legit.. and retarded
Yeah where's Henrick? Where's Penny? I know this is a synopsis, but those are kind of important details.
I'm calling hijinks. This just does not add up with what we know from the cast list, as well as other spoilers.
Also, Ben was wearing a different shirt in 4x09 when he teleported. It was dark blue and the one he's wearing now is that earthy green color.
producers take Frozen Donkey SH!T all over seaon 4 finale...
people, just remember - on screen it will be alot better! like with part 1 - the synopsis made it sound like a filler but it was great!
i do think alot is missed out, but then we will be suprised when we watch it. like with des - we'll wonder what happens to him etc
frozen wheel huh? well you have to keep a positive outlook here, after all it could be worse.Lets say what if it was a cheese wheel, i mean time travel based on aged cheddar, or be glad it wasnt say a wheel of fortune, granted im sure the cash and prizes would be sweet, also Vanna White might be as old as Richard Alpert. to be honest i think this show probally peaked with suspense on the season 3 finale, its hard to really keep the same intensity when a certain amount of mystery has been revealed.
Have Lost fans ever been this disappointed about something happening on the show?
Even last season, those who were skeptical still thought it was a cool twist. Let's all pray that this was a joke or foiler.
I thought DarkUFO said the finale was good? Was he high?
Hmm...if lostfan108 is involved in post-production somehow then the coffin scene may not be correct.
I'm just remembering how they filmed four people in the coffin. Perhaps lostfan108 was involved with Team Locke, while others were with Team Desmond and whoever else was filmed in the coffin that day.
Perhaps this is what lostfan108 BELIEVES to be true. It could still be true of course, there's a 25% chance - but not necessarily.
Sorry...just thinking aloud. I'm probably way off.
This season finale sounds lame.
Frozen wheels? What the hell is that? Instead of using a big particle accelerator or anything science-like to make-believe their sci-fi vision, they used "frozen wheels"? What are we? 10 year olds?
The next thing we know the Smurfs will be on the island.
I'm stickin w/this show until the end but come on...
People saying its lame just haven't got their expectations come true. I am, in part, one of them. I think they could make it more sophisticated. But anyway.
Those who read Harry Potter books probably remember last summer fever when 10 or so days before official "Deathly Hallows" appearance in the stores so-called "carpet-version" of the book leaked.
It was not clear was it real deal or fake. But absolutely most of readers of carpet-book say "its fake! nice try, but we wanna real one! JKR couldn't write such crap!". But this appear to be real indeed.
So, just, accept it. Hey, still most of your fav characters are alive! And Locke is going to be resurrected.
As for Locke, from the first moment seeing that scene in TTLG I felt it was him, while it was damn illogical. Gee, first time in my life my intuition didn't fail me)
There are so many things that makes me believe this is a foiler...
First of all... It looks all taken from promos, previous spoilers and just made up stuff...
And Locke is going to be resurrected
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lame
They weren't joking about the zombie season, were they.
CrazyeyeJack said...
They weren't joking about the zombie season, were they.
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yeah its time to put the banjos down and the pants back on...
Every finale there has been a awesome twist right at the end!!
Where is this seasons twist?
Nothing happens......
Locke in the coffin, we knew that already pretty much.
Resurection isnt a twist, just new knowledge.
But God Damn! Give me a twist.
Or resurect other characters!!!
How far are they going to push us?
Smoke Monster, Four toed statue, Invisible guy, Time Travel, Frozen Donkey Wheel?
When do the talking dinosaurs come in?
What about the pictures Ryan brought us of all the O6 in the water with Desmond and the life raft?
They were swiming among debri...struggling to get to that raft.
And we've had information about other kisses in the finale. And why would Jack, who tried to kill Locke just a couple of weeks ago island time suddenly agree to lie just because he said so? And why would the rest of the O6 agree?
I think we're missing a lot of info here, which is fine by me, I'd rather get some surprises. But some things don't add up.
Do you all think TPTB got to Lostfan108? His description last year was a lot more detailed.
I smell a rat.
I too totally smell a rat.
Just because Locke may be able to be resurrected doesnt mean that possibility is there for anyone thats died.
Lets not forget Locke is very special, and very important to the island, is it a stretch that he can walk all of a sudden once hes on the island? Of course, is it that much more of a stretch than the island can resurrect him from the dead if his body is brought back?
This raises an interesting question about Christian Shepherd is he also special to the island and has been raised from the dead once his coffin landed on the island?
if we're missing info great... what sucks is the frozen donkey, wheel and the quest to raise Locke from the dead... those things shape the show not he lame kisses..
Lost Fans have good intuition of whats happening on the show or going to happen. I think we can all agree that this is a FAKE!
"cooome on"(peter griffin)
Is it possible, that lostfan108 is just playing with us?
When someone's dead that means someone's really dead. No zombies, and resurrections, it's not bloody Bible.
Liquid making bomb go off later? WTF?
Darlton are better writers than this. I'm sure this is some joke there playing on us. Revenge for last season.
CrazyeyeJack said...
Lost Fans have good intuition of whats happening on the show or going to happen. I think we can all agree that this is a FAKE!
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last year tons of posters said that about the FF
" CrazyeyeJack said...
Darlton are better writers than this. I'm sure this is some joke there playing on us. Revenge for last season."
Thought the same thing
I always thought it was Locke in the coffin. Why? Because I figured once he left the island, all that walking on island magic would have caught up with him and his legs would practically rotting. I figured his legs got amputated and that is why the coffin was small. No legs.
It's not that it just sucks. It doesn't make any sense.
and it sucks
Guys, Dark said this is only the "main parts of the finale", not the WHOLE part of the finale. Also Hurley said that there will be a huge twist, but I assume that the other characters beside the super secret scene don't know what's going to happen, if you consider the interviews with Sayid, or Sawyer, or Hurley; they all say they were shocked after watching season 3 finale. So if Jorge says there is a HUGE TWIST, it should be happening in a scene where he is included, and I don't see any Hurley name on that Jack-Ben-coffin scene, just wait and see.
Darlton won't be making a huge twist by revealing that Locke is in the coffin - but guess that they did, there comes the questions like how Locke got off the island? Why did he got of the island? Why did he die? Did he commit suicide? Was Charlie a reason that he did that? And does the island have the ability to "resurrect" someone? If so, how? As you see, there comes so many questions for this topic.
the best part of last weeks ep was everyone walking intercut with ben giving up to keamy, I thought anyway. Theres like 10 moments like that in this one, if you think ben shooting keamy is gonna be cut and dry your nuts..your probably going to cheer or laugh or something, this whole show isnt about the figure it out shit.but yes, a frozen wheel? I always knew time travel worked like a big clock, none of that fancy wormhole stuff, just turn the dial! WTF???
Sounds good to me! :D
But we know Locke is special and we know the island can heal people that can't walk so if your important enough maybe it can resurrect the dead. Yes its a stretch but we accept that the island has these special healing powers, and the island can make guns jam if your still needed so is it that much more of a stretch that the island can resurrect somebody from the dead thats very important?
Ok if it could happen to anyone that dies i agree it changes the rules somewhat but im guessing its only very special people that have the possibility of being resurrected by the island and Locke falls into that category.
Yeah, a good majority of fans cried that lostfan 108's Season 3 finale synopsis was fake and/or a foiler, that the writers wouldn't do this, and that Lost fans had good enough intuitions to sniff out a fake.
Of course, that's always possible, but look how wrong everyone was last year.
the twist is Locke and the Wheel
I really wish some people would read the introduction text first.
I write it for a reason.
Oh and Nicolas, if you continue to type all in CAPS your posts will be deleted. If you can't follow the simple rules for this site then you will be banned.
The coffin isn't small, it's just the perspective and whatever lens they used made it seem smaller.
Look it up on Lostpedia, there's a whole thing disproving the "coffin is small" theory.
keep in mind it was reported many alternate endings/scenes were filmed
so its possible this could not be what is put on TV
guys, of course this is true. dark recieved it when he received part 1 and that was true. And of course we will be disappointed reading it, but we will have to watch it to get the full impact. have faith in tptb people!
for example, reading that locke can be resurrected sounds a bit farfetched to say the least, but just wait til you here emerson deliver the line. it will blow us all away! :)
Fake. Maybe somebody got to lostfan108, and told him to post these foilers *if thats what they realy are*, in return for seeing the actual episode before anyone else... but why wouls kate not want to go to lockes funeral? Thats just crazy 0_o
I thought after reading this I will be like omg but in fact Im like wtf now ;/.
I agree with most of you this will be the lamest finale ;p
Hold on... why are people so damned upset? Didnt we already suspend disbelief long before A FUCKING COLUMN OF SMOKE TRIED TO SWALLOW LOCKE! Clearly, this "island" is not an island at all but a cover for something else entirely. I always knew this show must have something to do with aliens/alien technology. I think people's problem with the fucking "wheel" is that the damned idiots are picturing a magical wheel with spokes that does its voodoo and moves the island. I'm thinking more along the lines of something alien and advanced, but continue your bashing anyway. We'll miss you next season (not).
I think it's good.
Jack is going to the Orchid but isn't Sawyer going too?
What do you mean by "CAPS"??
What do you mean by "CAPS"??
at some point it goes too far...
Yeah, I really don't have a problem with a frozen wheel. Whatever. It's Dharma technology. I'm sure there's more to it than just a wheel. That's actually one of the most believable parts to me.
To all those crying fake (because you read the spoilers and wish you hadn't), here's a song for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRuLFR91e4
Season 5 will be the zombie kincent season, just wait and see!
this shit is AWESOME.
Anyone stating that this is lame, needs to check their head.
This is Lost, and if you're not into what they've given us over 4 years, then go back to 2.5 men or some shit.
I stand by it: producers take Frozen Donkey SH!T all over season 4 finale...
whoa...
Jack promised to get everyone off the island. That's a good reason for going back. He feels remorse for leaving Jin, and everyone else. Looks like S5 and S6 will be a huge battle to find the island.
I still just want to punch somebody over the whole freighter thing, though. IT's not that complicated. You pull out the blasting caps and toss the c4 over the side of the ship for the dharma shark to choke on. If you think the caps could be rigged, you cut around them with a knife, leaving a very small amount of C4 on each blasting cap. get some pipe and shove it in the ends, put the other ends of the pipe up in the air. It goes boom, but just makes a nice fireworks display. IT would not have taken long to do that with as many people as their were on the freighter. 30 minutes, maybe 45. It's just a big headache for me to think this would have ever been a threat. Let Keamy go, don't get in his way, and as soon as he is off the boat, start yanking caps. Why is this so hard to understand? I just think it was weak. Aside from that, nothing else makes me want to pull my hair out.
Nontheless this is going to be interesting either way, it seems many people think the spoilers are wrong or lacking crucial information, bottomline, we will all get to see on May 29th just like we did last year for season 3.
i went on www.imbd.com went on penny and it doesn't say that shes in the finale
Tzzy P Cakes said...
this shit is AWESOME.
Anyone stating that this is lame, needs to check their head.
This is Lost, and if you're not into what they've given us over 4 years, then go back to 2.5 men or some shit.
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since they have given us good stuff in the past... that automatically makes the future stuff good..???
Dark, I'm from Argentina, and there are some words I don't know, or things I don't understand...
what did you mean with this:
"Oh and Nicolas, if you continue to type all in CAPS your posts will be deleted. If you can't follow the simple rules for this site then you will be banned."
Here's one thing that's bothering me. The heli was damamged and too heavy. Sawyer jumps off and now the chopper can fly just fine, then they pick up Sun and Aaron and the helicopter is still fine? I mean, I know Sun is small and all but she and Aaron are at least 110 pounds together.
Sayer is what? about 150? 160? So the chopper only needed to drop 40-50 pounds? Take out a seat or something, seriously, that doesn't make sense.
And resurrection is SOOOO lame! Come on! Do you know the heat we're gonna be taking from the other dead characters' fans? Not to mention if anyone needs to be resurrected, it's Charlie!
Well let's say this is really true and Locke is going to be reserected and the island moves thru time AND space.
So does this mean that Locke might really be Jacob? If he's "reserected" on the island?
Just a thought.
I'd trust ABC's press release more than imdb.com for the casting list.
Can someone explain something..
How is Locke in the coffin?
If Michael left the island and was unable to die because he had WORK to do..
How come Locke has left the island & somehow got himself killed??
Seems like the island doesn't give a crap about Locke anymore??
Does this make sense??
I'm pretty disappointed if this all turns out to be true... But, maybe on the screen it has a lot more impact.
I was wondering about the raft as well, it doens;t get mentioned in here, but maybe it;s just a synopsis.
What about all the other redshirts? Do they get killed in the explosion as well?
No words about Claire and Desmond.... Too bad... But I guess we'll have to wait 'till the 29th, and see 4 ourselves what happens.. Anyway, thnx 4 posting!!
Once again, take a look at the guest cast list and see who is missing from this synopsis, even knowing that not every little detail is included in it:
Guest List
Guest starring are Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday, Ken Leung as Miles Straume, Rebecca Mader as Charlotte Lewis, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Malcolm David Kelley as Walt, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, John Terry as Christian Shephard, Sonya Walger as Penelope “Penny” Widmore, Alan Dale as Charles Widmore, Kevin Durand as Keamy, Francois Chau as Dr. Marvin Candle, Anthony Azizi as Omar, Alex Petrovitch as Henrik and Starletta DuPois as Michael’s mom.
Yolimar makes a good point about the weight differences, really makes no sense does it?
If they make it back to the island within two days (about half a season on this show) and resurrect John on the third...they'll be cutting pretty close to the bone ;)
But seriously, where does this leave the show's impetus? Ben vs Widmore? We've already seen Widmore's threat. This would be a more apt season 5 finale, with the final impetus being to get back to the island and 'resurrect' Locke etc.
Logically, I think TPTB wrote themselves into a future corner with the excellence of previous seasons and the events that transpired therein. There was always going to come a point when they had to jump a shark to make their next move.
By the way, thanks for posting Dark. Neglected to say that earlier :)
Yes it does raise the question of how Locke dies if the island still needs him, maybe it'll be Whidmore breaking the rules again, but if Ben thinks he needs to go back with them, then obviously Ben still thinks hes important.
There also occurs this question: If Locke, the man of faith, the man of the island, the man that is special, in someway got off the island and died - isn't this a tricky thing? Michael, the guy just shouted "They took my son!", couldn't kill himself because the island didn't want him so; but the island lets Locke to die in someway, doesn't care about him after everything happened about Locke? There should have something gone wrong that leaded John to die, and Ben to think of taking him to island in order to "resurrect" him.
But, although I believe in some contents of this spoiler video, I don't think we still have the correct name for the man in the coffin. Also I don't see a super-secret scene that involves both Ben and Sawyer. As I said twice before that this spoiler video only displays some important PARTS of the finale, not the WHOLE.
I too, think this could be fake. Not 100% sure, but what if some sort of deal was made with lostfan to leak part one of the finale, but he was given mostly false info for parts 2 and 3 which are the more important parts?
I think A LOT of information is missing. A LOT. Based on the characters coming back (Widmore, Penny, Abbadon, Walt, Henrik...) and the secret scenes with Sun and Ben in London AND Sawyer in LA. I wasn't around for spoilergate last year, but I'm not going to pass judgement yet. Whether this is a total hoax or if there is a lot more in store, I still think we're in for some surprises.
Thanks, Dark!
Nicolas CAPS means "Mayúsculas" when people post on the internet, if they post everything in MAYUSCULAS, it means they are shouting. It's hard to read too. So Dark is asking you to use mayúsculas y minúsculas when you post. Gracias!
There was no secret scene filmed with Sawyer in LA.
I dont understand one thing. How can creators even leak that huge spoilers?
"and the secret scenes with Sun and Ben in London AND Sawyer in LA."
sawyer in LA was a foiler (unfortunately) and ben WAS in london. maybe sun was just visiting or something but i think the london scene was the wodmore and ben one. :)
Thanks Yolimar...
Sorry Dark...
If the whole Locke thing is true, then i will venture to guess it happened something like this:
(Locke and Ben turn the wheel and both of them get teleported to random different areas) oh no! says Locke as it's revealed that Locke whilst being teleported has lost(no pun intended) his abillity to walk again, did i mention he got teleported to a section of Antarctica that is heavily populated by polar bears? They eat parts of Locke Ben finds his mangled body after searching for the 3 possible places the island could have teleported Locke (all 3 are very desolate, well lacking people that is). Brings him back to the Ghetto to have a funeral for him,invites all the Losties everyone refuses to come, But Kate especially since she doesent want to see the icky mangled remains of John Locke ta da!!!!!!
I'm praying that this is a hoax. I'd be very, very disappointed if this turned out to be true.
No Four Toe Statue action WTF !
sigh at the frozen wheel thats just off putting, i will only accept it if its carved with all these old things like bens smoke monster door
Im afraid i do believe what has been written
@ isabelle
when were the secret scene reports retracted? i read them on here, but nothing about them being fake
meghan - the sawyer in LA one has been marked HOAX in the rumour section.
and with the london one, i am just assuming that cos it involvd ben and widmore, it was the end of TSOTTC.
It's obviously just the huge parts. After a finale I usually like the little scenes or a perfect line.
I'm glad Sayid is visiting Hurley and not Jack again.
Thanks, isabelle! I barely ever go into rumors ... ;)
i still remember hearing somewhere yunjin kim went to film in london too
why wont jack go back for jin? i bet he'd go back for kate or juliet or sayid, but why not jin? no wonder sun blames him for jins 'death'.
meghan - i read that too, but i am assuming that she was just visiting, or something. :)
Would be really funny if the producers just planted this synopsis to mislead us, after their disappointment when last year's final leaked. Because it sounds just like some crap someone has made up based on the trailers and various spoilers already known, plus a guess at who's in the coffin, who dies, and a joke about the frozen wheel. I hope I'm right atleast!
OK, so this finale doesn't seem to cover as many big plot points as many would like, though there's probably multiple 'little' key moments left out in the write-up. As written here, it seems pretty much focused on the actual 'rescue', the fate of the freighter, the introduction of the time-travelling wheel (explanation to follow in S5 no doubt), and Locke's future role as an island-evangelist-cum-suicide. It seems pretty narrow, but I can still see how that could all be done really well once translated and expanded onto screen. Plenty to hold interest for 2 hours! The rescue stuff should be dramatic and even moving (the leaving of Jin should be, that's for certain); the blowing up of the freighter might be very suspenseful (though I agree with an earlier poster that there are flaws here too), especially if you're unspoiled; and the Locke/Ben/T-Travel stuff will be the part most focused on the island's 'mysteries.' Sure, it doesn't answer questions - it's a really big setup for S5. But then that's the point of most finales, isn't it? The Des/Penny story, according to this synopsis, has been shelved for next season it seems. That's not so bad. It's a big part of Lost, and needs appropriate time and attention - mot squeezed into a 2 hour show. Claire's fate is obviously too complicated to cover here as well.
That's what makes no sense about this. I thought the reason the O6 would eventually travel back because they are guilt ridden - that's how it seems Hurley feels when visted by Charlie - and I would think Jack of all people would want to save his sister! I love Locke, but I would be so disappointed if the reason they need to go back, and the reason they lied about the island, is because Locke told them to.
Remember when C And D said: "The volcano on the island will be of seismic importance, pun very much intended" well perhaps when they turned the Wheel to make the Island move this caused some seismic disturbances that we will see later in the show...eh? tell me what you think.
something that you are not taking into consideration... a device that could change the location and space/time continum of the island and the people on it... That would classify as "super sensitive" in my book. What do you do when you have a problem with credit card debt? You put the credit card in a big block of ice so that it can't be used easily. Wouldn't you want the same type of protection for something slightly more important than a credit card? I could be wrong... cryogenics, perhaps... yanno, kelvin scale... absolute zero... like 270something degrees Ferenheit below zero... like so cold that nothing can live...
nor sure where I was going with this. It's 5am-ish. I've been up for 32 hours waiting for the spoilers. Thanks.
Did anyone else remember Darlton saying that the Frozen Donkey Wheel had nothing to do with what the actual game changer was? Or am I crazy?
desmond622 said...
i went on www.imbd.com went on penny and it doesn't say that shes in the finale
she is listed on the official ABC press release in the guest list... :)
Another thought just came to me that would support this being a hoax... I don't remember what the code name for the secret scene for the finale last year, but it seems that for thie finale, 'Frozen Donkey Wheel' seems to be taken pretty literally, with the exception of the donkey part...
i remember darlton talking about charlottes name (C.S Lewis) and saying that that is a clue to where we will be going at the end of the season (narnia?).
Another thought just came to me that would support this being a hoax... I don't remember what the code name for the secret scene for the finale last year, but it seems that for thie finale, 'Frozen Donkey Wheel' seems to be taken pretty literally, with the exception of the donkey part...
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Exactly what I said.
Thanks for posting, Dark!
I don't think it's fake at all, but I can't help to be a little disappointed. Probably, I just need to metabolise the news.
In fact, if someone who never watched Lost asks us "What Lost is all about" and we say: "You know, there's this plane crashing on an island, there are 48 survivors but they seems to be all related to each other in some way and on this island there's a black smoke column, whispers and a guy who lives in a cabin and dead people keep walking around" then it would be probably look like an awful tv show which actually is not, as we all know, LOL! Maybe Isabelle is right, it's going to be far better on the screen. At least, I hope so.
And by the way, TPTB said that S5 will be based on O6 to get back to the island. I don't think it will only depends on Locke and anyway, a lot needs to be still explained to make sense.
meghan - last years finales code name was "snake in a mail box". which want taken literally, unlike this one...
If this is foiler and TPTB have something much better up their sleeves then they will have achieved something truly Machiavellian.
But I think this is the real deal folks. In all it's glory, or otherwise ;)
Personally, I think Locke is sent off-island on a mission from Jacob to try and succeed where ghosts Charlie and Christian may have failed. The 'island won't let you die' schtick was dropped in favor of good ol' shock value. Hence John in the box.
As much as I love Locke, I'd rather he be really dead (because he got transfered off the island somehow and committed suicide), then this whole frozen donkey shit and resurection.
I do understand why Jack is leaving everyone behind but Jin in the water? Of course they cannot take him because Sawyer had to jump. But let's say he's alive and needs help? Wouldn't it be natural that Sayid or Jack give him their seat? Many could be hurt in the water and they don't even have a doctor on the island. I understand Sun for blaming Jack. Let's be honest, Kate in the water? Jack would have tried to help her.
I think the finale will be more moving with the people who stay behind and that with good music.
I don't think I'm gonna like the kiss. It's dramatic but sounds very cheesy. A goodbye without a kiss would be fine, too.
i really didnt want locke to die cos i had a problem with killing off the whole faith side of things, but now i think that this is the thing that will make jack start believing in faith, and i am so glad that locke will be resurrected. i just hope that he isnt unconscious for a whole season....
if locke gets off the island, then that allows us to hope that maybe others like sawyer, juliet, des etc are able to leave at some point too :)
This is the lamest thing I've ever read.
i just had a thought - that video rumour is partially true. jack and locke have an off island scene together.... even though locke is dead in it...
Amazingly enough, after reading that, I only have one question:
If Ben travels from the moment they turn the "wheel" to tje desert, when would he have found time to learn about Nadia's death, and who killed her, which he later told Sayid? Hurtling through time and space seems an odd time to catch up. Or, change your shirt, as someone has already pointed out.
It dosen't sound like Locke just got beamed off the island, became despondant and killed himself. Apparently he's been visiting people.
@ Isabelle
I don't think he'll be AWOL for too long. I envisage something like the current flashforwards becoming the present and island events (up to and including Locke's departure) being told through flashbacks or something of that nature. Either way, I don't think Locke will be absent from our screens for very long :)
Hoax. But if its real, so be it.
I would Like to know how Widmores and Henrik fits to this?
And What happens to Desmond...
We hav edetails of what happened to Michael and Jin, but nothing about Desmond
this is just stupid!
i hope this is fake...
It's soooo weak, I wish it would be fake but I think it is real....
Where is the temple? where are Penny, Henrik, Walt, Michael's mom, Miles, Charlotte, Daniel ? What about Four-toe statue. Claire and Christian were supposed to show up.
I am so disappointed
You know, I kind of want this to be true. As lame as it sounds, I'm just glad that they didn't kill Desmond.
But I have a theory about what the "Frozen Donkey Wheel" really means.
So we already have been informed of the whole frozen wheel portion of the puzzle, but what about the donkey?
What I haven't yet heard anyone mention is the alternate name for a donkey, Jackass. (Can I say Jackass here? If not, sorry I'm new lol)
Perhaps this whole "Frozen Wheel" business was thrown out there by TPTB in order to make the spoiler-loving community feel like Jackasses for believing something so far-fetched.
But hey, I guess we'll find out next week!
And I remember the promotional photos with oceanic six in a small red boat, what about that scene?
"Where is the temple? where are Penny, Henrik, Walt, Michael's mom, Miles, Charlotte, Daniel ? What about Four-toe statue. Claire and Christian were supposed to show up.
I am so disappointed"
we probably will still see all those things. if you read darks text about it, he says this is not a blow by blow account. just the major points.
I would like to know what Damon and Carlton were smoking when they wrote this. And where can I get some to watch this atrocity next week.
Yayy! I can download the video and convert it to avi. Now I can achieve to it anytime I want! :D
Proof of Foiler:
Jack and Ben are in front of the coffin together. In TTLG Jack actually leaves the funeral home. Remember, he walks out of the funeral home and goes for his pills, hes out of pills so he gets pissed. For him and Ben to be in front of the coffin would have to mean that Jack went back to the coffin. This just seems highly unlikely.
DarkUFO - - Thanks for posting the sypnosis. Just like you said you would. I am still in shock (Locke in the coffin!).
Some people might believe what we just read or maybe not, but I think I speak for everybody here when I say that your work and dedication to Lost fans is highly appreciated.
I just Can NOT see how Henric from Arctic station could be a minor thing
serendipity - ditto!!! thanx dark! :)
I am not disappointed by this at all.. Assuming this *is* true of course.
What I have understood from the spoilers so far -
1. Locke contacted Jack and tried to convince him to go back. This means that Locke wasn't immediately dead after moving the island or something. So something else happened, which required Jack to go back. But Jack is reluctant to do so because he is a man of science, not a man of faith. The way Jack broke down when Locke dies tells me that he now realises that Locke was right all along and that he made a mistake coming back from the island. Now he has unfinished business and he has to go back and finish it. He wants Kate to be there for emotional support.
2. Ben has become my favorite character in the last 6, 7 episodes. I would consider Ben to be someone like Zeus. He is the leader and he *has* to be the leader, irrespective of his mistakes. That is the protocol. The king should remain king [Think of the movie 'Hero' starring Jet Li, about his views on the Chinese Emperor].
3. Ben needs help from Jack, Sayid etc. He cannot complete his business alone.
4. If Locke needs to be resurrected, that means that Locke has some control over protecting the island which no one else does. Perhaps after resurrecting him, he becomes Jacob. May be Jacob was actually killed and resurrected too.
I am guessing that at the end, we will see Locke becoming Jacob, Jack becoming Ben, Ben retiring, Kate and Sawyer getting together and leaving the island.
man what was the point in bringing michael back? they must have had much bigger plans for him before the writers strike but he has really done nothing this whole season, he has had like 5 scenes not including his flashback ep. i wonder if harold perrineau is pissed that he got such a small part in the story arc. he seems like the kind of actor that would be pissed if he wasnt a major player, seeing as though when the show started he was one of the most acclaimed actors to be cast
this is real??? so lame...
wow, nearly 200 comments in the space of about an hour and a half....
Well- I....don't know what to say!!
I'm just glad that it's not Juliet who...you know...
And how on earth did Locke end up there?
Also...I would be pissed at Jack too if I were Sun.
Btw, thanks ever so, DarkUFO, for posting this! :)
after having calmed down a bit it is time to be fair: season4 is somehow a filler-season. obviously season3 ending was very powerful and it set the tone that the most exciting stuff will somehow happen in the future...which hopefully will already be told in season5 and not only season6...i have feelings that season5 will also be like season4...
a few thoughts:
1) why did locke leave the island? for sure not because of the wheel. maybe he was expelled by forces unknown (abaddon?).
2) resurrection, if it can be called so, only works for important characters. i have no problems seeing locke come somehow back if that alcoholic could do so. locke in ghost form is probably anyways better ;-)
3) the donkey wheel sucks. desmonds travels and daniels work somehow have been reduced to unimportance by the existance and power of the wheel
4) i REALLY think abaddon and penny work together
5) obviously if the island falls into bad hands something very dangerous can happen to the planet, jack seems to learn this and i really guess that this happens during season5 and culminates in locke's death
6) BEN rules
@Joel
It is my understanding TPTB wanted to bring Michael back to answer the questions of how he got off the island and what happened to him and Walt.
However, HP was upset about being written off and bargained really hard when Darlton wanted him back. Thus he got a Regular contract when a guest starring contract would have been enough.
My guess is that Darlton's plan was always to show Michael's story, and then continue with a grown up Walt in the future. But their plan with Michael was a short one, only to address our questions about what happened to Michael and Walt. Let's face it, the fans were clamoring for those answers and Darlton knew they'd have to bring HP back.
I'm ok with the story arc. If Michael dies trying to save the very people he betrayed, there's som epoetic justice in that.
That said, poor Walt, he's now a complete orphan, traumatized by island events, freaky and with no one to talk about it all.
Well there is a huge difference between getting mad about Flashforwards like some where when last seasons finale synopsis was leaked out and something as stupid and ridicoulous as moving the island with a frozen wheel.
If we just forget about it being a worthless plot and jump the shark moment, it's also by no means explainable scientifically. Moving an island would cause earthquakes going off the richterscale.
The thing with Locke was cool though.
If this whole frozen wheel moving **** happens I'm gonna be so dissappointed that I really won't be looking forward for the rest of Lost.
I had suspected Michael in the coffin at first, because well, it just seemed obvious. Then they said, and it was Darlton who said it that they had first chosen Locke to be in the coffin and that it had in fact changed. So, when I saw that the person shocked Dark I idn't think Locke being in there would be very shocking at this point since we'd been told once or twice that he was supposed to be in there originally. *scratch head*
Frozen wheel .... gosh, I hope they don't get any stupider.
Thanks for the info Dark. I don't think it's lame. But yes it seems this season finale will be not so good at least not good like the season 3 finale.
As for the kiss, i think it will be spectacular and emotional. Dartlon saied that a couple of times so i trust them. It's all about personal election, so i quess this "lostfan 108" is a non-snipper or not so much invested in the romance on the show.