Update: Thanks to one of our readers for suggesting this poll.
I can now confirm that the final two episodes of Season 5 will be called "The Incident" Parts 1 and 2! I think we can all guess what this will be about :)
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Whoa...
Oh yes! This is going to be awesome.
[high-pitched Barney Stinson voice] AWEEESOME!
Ahahah, so terribly cool!
YAY! I'm so excited!
\o/
KICK ASS!!!!
OH.....MY.......GOD................
my jaw is still on the floor! Now what the hell is going to be the incident? Ive been waiting for this since season 2! wow!
Shocking!!
Nice! Would love to see why they had to build an 8-foot thick concrete wall in the Swan station.
Gasp! I can't wait...!
Bloody brilliant
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FINALLY WE GET TO SEE THE INCIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is really cool. I just hope that damn bomb isn't behind the Swan wall.
Great title!!!
isnt the incident just ben killing all the dharma?
No wefwe, that's the purge. The incident is something that happened which resulted in the swan hatch 108 protocol.
Can't believe it...It finally happened !!!
5x16 The Incident 1/2
5x17 The Incident 2/2
Woah, such a great title ! And We'll finally get to see the incident...woaah, A-W-E-S-O-M-E.
Wefwe: That was the Purge, it happened in 1992.
so we are going to find out what happened when des used the key and the sky went purple?
The Incident will be caused by detonation of the Jughead. Daniel will make a noble sacrifice to save them. The threat will also force him to convince Charlotte's mother to leave. Mom will pretend not to know about the Island because Daniel will tell her it's the only way to prevent Charlotte's death.
The bomb will likely be behind the swan wall but I doubt that is related to the incident. I'm guessing it has to do with Faraday going against Pierre Chang's orders and drilling further. Causing the release of the energy.
No wefwe. We are going to see what happened which caused Dharma to build the swan station and discharge the magnetic build-up every 108 minutes. Something happened, the incident, which resulted in the swan protocol as explained by Marvin Candle in the first orientation video. We currently have no idea what the incident is.
Yeah Finally. I've been waiting for an episode like this for 4 years.
nice
Bigmouth, that sounds perfect!!
Heres a little paragraph about the incident for those that need a refresher:
The Incident was an electromagnetic anomaly that apparently caused a catastrophic event that resulted in the DHARMA Initiative establishing the Swan station's protocol. The Incident was first mentioned by Dr. Marvin Candle in the Swan Orientation film.
The Incident occured due to a system failure of the Swan reactor in the Incident Room.
During the Swan Orientation Film, Dr. Marvin Candle mentioned that there was "an incident" which resulted in the creation of a protocol that required a code to be entered every 108 minutes. The incident involved a leak in the containment associated with an electromagnetic anomaly. The leak caused an unspecified charge to build up within the anomaly. As the charge built up, the magnetic field associated with the anomaly grew. After 108 minutes, the magnetic field was large enough to damage the Swan station. This incident most likely occurred before 1980, the production date of the film.
Dr. Marvin Candle issues a strict warning not to use the computer for communication with the outside world. He goes on to say that failure to comply will compromise the integrity of the project and could result in another incident. Candle also seems to indicate that the incident occurred shortly after the Swan station began operations.
It is unknown exactly what caused the incident to occur or what kind of damage it caused. The protocol was created so that the magnetic anomaly could be discharged every 108 minutes, thus preventing an electromagnetic catastrophe. Failure to comply with this protocol leads to a system failure. There is a failsafe mechanism in place below the floor of the computer room that will destroy the Swan and permanently and safely seal the electromagnetic anomaly.
from lostpedia
ohh thanks 4 clearing it up
great!!
The incident!!!!!!!
Way cool, it goes back to my thought that the LOSTIES cause the incident and it is the event that either takes them back to 2008, or back to ancient Island times... Maybe a certain cabin is affected by the incident also.
@LostInCanada - good recap.
This may clear up some ideas on the major death and will provide a brilliant full circle on the first episode of the season.
I've been really hoping this would be the storyline of the finale.
This finale is going to be the biggest cliff hanger ever ... bigger than a flash forward ... bigger than a "dead" Locke ... this is going to melt all our brains
This sounds so sweet and so disappointing at the same time!!!!
Only disappointing because I was hoping for the Purge as the season finale but frak yeah we're getting the incident!!!!
I definitely think now that Daniel will be the one to die. We already know he starts tinkering with the orchid (around 5.13/14 iirc), plus he's working there based on the premiere. I bet Des gets back in the mix by the season end as well, and he and Daniel both are involved with creating the incident, perhaps by trying to move the island back to the present.
Lefleur would be the first on-call to any Incident.
so was the incident how Chang lost his arm? he will have to be in this episode, right?
I wish it was wednesday already! :(
This is going to be amazing. It would be cool if they start naming all their reveal episodes in season 6 like this. For example:
S6EX - Who is Jacob
S6EX - The Statue
S6E16-17 - The Mystery of The Monster
No, no Christopher =).
6x16/17 will be called "The Island", believe me ^^.
But I don't understand why some of you expected the Season Finale to include the Purge. We've already seen it happened.
There's no reason to do a Final talking about the Purge. But The Incident, that's a great subject =).
Our time travel expert, Faraday, is desperate to either go back in time and fix things or get back to the future. He ends up messing with the Orchid and releases the energy. This causes the energy to be pulled away from the swan, causing that wall to be highly magnetized. The Swan protocol (push button every 108 minutes) is implemented to release the energy bit by bit.
I would say Pierre Chang loses his arm while walking through the Swan when debris begins to fly towards the wall.
S6E10 - How Jack got the rest of his tatoos
Here it goes.. My theory of the incidient.
The incident is the first time the island time travels. when ben tricks widmore into turning the wheel. this casued the island to begin jumping andin order to keep it from jumping they had to press the button every 108 minutes to control the energey form building up to a jump. this is why the sky turned purple when desmond turned the failsafe key. it jumped due to massive build up at end.
MY THEORY... IF RIGHT YA HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!!!!!lol
Best.Title.Ever. !!
I'm so stoked.
I have no fore knowledge here, just guessing Daniel will have something to do with creating the incident, probably resulting in his death.
It happens sometime before 1980 so it's right about the time the Losties are in Dharmaville right now. It involves some type of electromagnetic anomaly and results in the Swan computer needing input after every 108 minutes.
Besides Daniel dying, Pierre Chang will probably lose his arm in the incident.
Can't wait to see it.
They're really treading a fine line here.
This could either be really really good or truely one of the most terrible things ever. Seemingly how this season has been going so far (Except LaFleur which wasn't awesome nor pathetic but solidly 'good')
It will 99% chance be the Jughead. They would NEVER introduce it, smack us over the head with the concrete mention, and then never go back to it.
Though, what all do we know about the 'incident' more than that it 'happened'?
yesssssssssssssssssssss <3
They already said jughead will return. But I doubt that is the cause of the incident.
Chances are the swan was built where it was because the jughead was already buried there. When Faraday told Ellie to fill the casing with lead and to bury it in concrete, she would have told Richard this. Do you think they would have waited over 25yrs to do this?
I agree that we don't need to see the purge, since it was shown in The Man Behind The Curtain. What we DO need to know about the purge is who ordered it. Widmore was off the island by then, but Ben was not yet the leader of the Others ((1) he said he wasn't in Cabin Fever and (2) he wouldn't have still be shlubbing around the Dharma Initiative in 1992 if he became leader after Widmore left the island in 1984). So, who was the leader of the others between 1984 and 1992?
The answer may be quite telling, I think. I have a bad feeling it might be John.
I think Daniel is going to go completely crazy in the end and trigger the bomb in an attempt to destroy the island.
You're telling me that you would rather see the purge than the incident?!?!?! We already saw the purge sheesh. INCIDENT YES FINALLY!
oh
my
god
amazing.
I love LOST!
Sounds great! I don't think we'll be seeing our castaways spending the rest of Season Six with DHARMA, so maybe they get back in the finale, but not without consequences for the DHARMA Initiative!
I also no longer want to be spoiled for the finale now, I want this to be as big a surprise as possible :)
The Hatch map also has an "Incident" in 1985. A Cerberus Station is abandoned due to AH?MDG incident. There is a note on the map that says "Estimated Travel time incompatible with 108. Do not attempt to survey. "
The leader of the Others between 84 and 92?
Locke.
There was a spoiler that said he becomes the leader of the others again. it didn't say in what year
I think that this will be a Multi-Centric like last year finale.
Wooohoooo!!!
I won't be able to get this grin of my face for the rest of the day!!!
I wonder if the incident has something to do with contact with the outside world, which is what was mentioned in the video. Is contacting someone outside the Island dangerous because of the time travel? You risk contacting yourself? Is that how Daniel gets his Dharma notebook, from himself? And contacting himself is somehow catastrophic?
That sounds too cheesy, but I've always wondered about that line in the orientation film in relation to the incident. And in that Orchid outtake with the two bunnies.
@Nick
Good point. But perhaps it wasn't just Faraday who contacted the outside world. Even though Pierre Chang believes there are rules that must be followed, he did appear in the Dharma Booth video and told viewers that the Dharma Initiative must be recreated. He mentions something about "if he can keep the pinhole open long enough". Perhaps he used the computer in the swan station to do this
I've said it before - they could of called it "Rose and Bernard Have a Tea Party" and we still be psyched
For those saying "we already saw the purge", we didnt see that much of it. I heard that they're going to be revisiting scenes to add more to them, so who can rule out seeing more of the purge if it has to do with the castaways or Widmore or something else?
This could also very well have to do with Jughead, and we're still yet to see what Faraday's been doing all this time, but i'm sure we'll be caught up with him in "The Variable".
Either way, this season is building up in a snowball kinda way. It's getting bigger and bigger, by the time we hit the finally we're going to be so floored I don't think anyone will be ready for it to end next year.
PART ONE should be on May 13th and PART TWO of THE INCIDENT should be on May 20th.
Yeah, the purge will likely be revisted through a young Ben Flashforward or a present day generic flashback. I also read that they were revisiting stuff we've seen but keepong the scenes rolling past what we had already witnessed.
Dailey: Why in the name of god would that be a good idea??
yeah, what nicole said. plus we already know that 516 and 517 will be shown together in a 2 hour finale.
Season 1 had Exodus part 1 and Exodus part 2. But the 2nd part was 2hrs long
Seasons 2-3 had 1part finales which were 2hrs ea.
Season 4 had There's no place like home part 1 2 and 3, each 1hr long
We were told there were only 17hrs left in the show. That was for S5 andS6.
The incident part 1 could be on May 13 and part 2 on May 20, or they would be on the same night. Or they could go back on their word, extend the season by 1hr and make the 2nd part a 2hr episode.
First I was gonna pick "Good, but there has been better" option, but then I read the comments and realized that the incident is not the "purge", and that we'll be introduced such an event that changed so many things on the island, and I chose "EPIC!" :D
@rock:
Good point with the booth video. Maybe the computer can be used to open a "pinhole." However, in that video, Chang had foreknowledge of the Incident, I believe - didn't he look down at his arm or something, as if he knew he'd lose it? I'm trying to make sense of all of this. It just has me thinking about the relation of using the computer to contact the outside world with the incident. Did that policy happen before or after the incident?
How long are the survivors in dharma times for, if it's 1978 when jack and co show up and the incident occurs in 79/80?
He might have looked down at his arm, but I doubt that was intentional. How would anyone else know exactly when and where Chang lost his arm? At best, Jack would have noticed the prosthetic arm in the swan video and told him about it.
I do agree that the computer could have been used to open the pinhole and send the video to the future, since the computer and button are responsible for releasing the energy.
Maybe the energy is not being released, perhaps it's just constantly broadcasting the numbers through time ;-)
WHEEEY!!!!!
My poll got put on here :)
I'm still not sure what year it actually is and I don't know why everyone assumes it is in fact 1974, just because Sawyer tells Juliet it's 1974 on the mainland. He could have pulled that date out of his head.
I don't think there were any newspapers on the island and I highly doubt Sawyer asked Amy or Horace, hey what year is it.
Just had my own "incident". . Just busted a Dharma NUT and didnt even need any Dharma Lube !
Rock: It's 1977 when Sawyer and Jin are reunited with Jack, Kate and Hurley.
sounds siiiiiiiick!
fnaly going to find out what happened...
might as well just call it "the purge"
Nicole, where was this confirmed?
It's 1977 when Sawyer and Jin are reunited with Jack, Kate and Hurley.
Strange. I just watched 'Orientation' (my favorite episode) again last night, and when Chang mentioned 'The Incident' I turned to my girlfriend and asked, 'I wonder if were going to find out what that was this year?', to which she replied, 'Honey... you're freaking obsessed', to which I replied back, 'Previously, on how I don't care what you think...'.
AWESOME! It's all coming back together. It occurs to me now that perhaps the incident sends everyone who is stuck back in 1977 back to 2008 finally.
@rock
If Sawyer said it was 1974, then three years passed, it is now 1977. It isn't often the shows gives us exact dates, so when it does, I think it is best to think they are right, otherwise you are making it even more confusing than it needs to be. Sawyer could have easily seen a calendar hung up in a Dharma house or something, either way it doesn't matter, the year they are in on the island currently is 1977.
I think when Sawyer was asking Juliet not to get on the sub, he mention it was 1974 then 3 years past so it would be 1977.
jrrl thats a good thoery about locke being the one behind the purge
Lostpedia's timeline section of the site has some pretty interesting stuff. I could come up with so many theories.
1984
28 October
Date for which the blast door map read: "Suspected shutdown date."
This happens to be the year Widmore may have left the island.
2005
24 October
Ben appears in the Tunisian Sahara, having time travelled from when he moved the Island.
Hmmm. Could it be that we see 'Jughead' back this episode ?
@LostInCanada - thanks for the recap.
Are we thinking that the incident will also cause the pregnancy problems on the island????
Yes, there was a spoiler that said that John would become leader of the Others again, but we don't know (or really have any good reason to believe) that John is anywhen other than 2007/2008 when the Ajira flight took off. Certainly the state of the Dharma station/office that Cesar and Ilana are rummaging through suggests a much later date than when the other Losties are. So, unless he gets zapped back to 1984, he wasn't the leader after Widmore left. I still suspect Locke MIGHT be the leader who orders the purge, but I am not sure how that happens just yet.
> Campbell Lynn : It won't be unlikely!
If locke is anywhen after 1978, then he can use the Orchid.
Hmm, a Sayid-centric episode back in season 3 was called Enter-77. This week he truly enters 77 :D Everything happens for a reason.
Wasn't it the Incident Room that was introduced in Lost: Via Domus video game? We know that there's a huge magnet behind the concrete wall.
i think the incident will be Jack & everyone else getting back to their appropriate time. to all the Dharma people, they will have disappeared, and are considered lost forever. even tho its a good thing they got back, to the Dharma people they lost several of their own people.....
No, Chang will eventually know they are from the future. Based on the Dharma booth video, he interacts with Faraday. So if they disappeared, he would most likely understand why.
Another spoiler also revealed that Jack would speak with Chang
No, the others were always the hostiles.
The incident is one of the reasons that turned the "others" to become the "hostiles" right? Oh it better involve Jacob! I need to see that cabin!
Sorry re-edited my last post.. What I meant was do you guys think the incident lead to the purge? It must be the triggering effect
The incident probably ended the truce.
I would like to know more about the purge. Who ordered it. What happened after.
awesome title:
awesome post:
Strange. I just watched 'Orientation' (my favorite episode) again last night, and when Chang mentioned 'The Incident' I turned to my girlfriend and asked, 'I wonder if were going to find out what that was this year?', to which she replied, 'Honey... you're freaking obsessed', to which I replied back, 'Previously, on how I don't care what you think...'.
if Daniel died in the incident, how was he alive (in the 'present') when Widmore's boat came to the island?
Finally!!! :D
"if Daniel died in the incident, how was he alive (in the 'present') when Widmore's boat came to the island?"
The same way John Locke visited Alpert two years before he was born. They may be in the island's past, but it is still the character's (in this case, Faraday's) present/future.
Faraday lived until he came to the island in December 2004. I don't know if we've been given his age, for sake of this example, let's say he's 37 yrs old the day the time flashes start when Ben turns the FDW. He spends a couple of days time-skipping, then lives 3yrs from 1974-1977 in DHARMA time. Faraday doesn't become a child again, he celebrates his 38th... 39th... and 40th birthdays in the 70s with DHARMA. Then comes the incident at some undetermined (as yet) time.
It's important to remember what Darlton have said (and exposited via Faraday within the show), that what happened always happened. In other words, time is just another dimension of space... just as "here" and "there" exist at the same time, so does "past" and "future." This isn't Heroes-style change-the-past-to-suit-the-story time travel with alternate futures, this is one single timeline.
AHHHHHHHHHH HOLY CRAP THAT'S SUCH AN EPIC TITLE
Wow. My first thoughts of this when I saw this spoiler was the discussion with that Dharma workman & Pierre Chang or was it Faraday? Saying something about not to drill that wall with all those holes in it? I have to rewatch the 1st episode to make sure. Anyhow, the double bill finale sounds totally awesome!!
Elaine...In Carolina said...
The Hatch map also has an "Incident" in 1985. A Cerberus Station is abandoned due to AH?MDG incident. There is a note on the map that says "Estimated Travel time incompatible with 108. Do not attempt to survey. "
I wonder how Radzinsky knew about all of this stuff? I hope we see Radzinsky doing some reseach on the blast door map that we saw. He sounds like a really cool character.
Wasn't the Hydra bomb buried in the Hydra island, which is also called Alcatraz island?
This has to be the best season finale title, and maybe even the best title ever.
Cant wait!
OH MY GOSH!!!
Awesome! Anyone who wants to get an insight at the finale, rent/buy/check out Via Domus, the game. It introduces The Incident Room, along with The Incident (though it doesn't go into detail).
All above theories, rumours and all that stuff have, in their own ways, probabilities of happening. But WTF happened to Rose & Bernard???? Will this season finale show what happened to them? They didn't travelled to the 70's, so can we assume that they travelled to mythology era and became the "Adam & Eve" skeletons?
Gabriel, I think there is two possibilities.
1) They traveled to the 70ies. Like the other 815ers. That makes sense. So where are they? Don't know. With the others?
2) They rejoin the others and (probably) like Cindy and the others 815 who are others now (get it?) they are protected somewhere. Like in the temple.
But I'm getting pretty pissed off by that storyline. Be respectful to Rose & Bernard, give 'em some space and time-screen, because if they disappear for 10 episodes that's just plain stupid!
2) So they are in another period, don't know, maybe 2007.
@Gabriel
I don't think it would make much sense for them to have not time traveled with the other survivors. As far as it was implied, the survivors were traveling through time. They were the ones effected by the FDW. Of course, there could be some explanation, but from what's been said thus far, I think they still might be in the jungle somewhere.
@Erik
That's exactly what I was thinking, the "incident" could be a side-effect or caused by the Survivors attempting to travel back to their original time.
They've been very good at keeping the "incident" secret with no major hints to what it could be... let the speculation continue
I think that the Incident will involve Faraday and the Jughead. After he warns Charlotte and she leaves, he will try to detonate the Jughead to destroy the Island and thus ceasing the chances of Charlotte dying on the Island. Ellie (assuming she is Mrs Hawking) will lock Faraday in with the bomb (I'm going with the fact that the bomb is accesible much like the 'Incident Room' of Lost: Via Domus), then she will turn the fail safe which releases the electromagnetic energy. Now I know this is kinda wacky because we've been told the Incident is a leak of electromagnetic energy yadda yadda. Also, if we are to believe the Swan was built only to contain the energy then the fail safe would not be there. I just don't see that the writers would take us to the Orchid for a second season finale. They are usually pretty good with new or different set pieces for the finale.
Also, my "facts" to back this up are the spoilers that Ellie does something shocking (whats more shocking than killing her own son).
Anyway, I'll probably get torn to pieces but I hope I'm at least a tad right, lol
The incident is a leak in the electromagnet, since that time the magnet becomes stronger, every 108 minutes they puch te button and they unload the magnet.
the incident = the leak
the protocol = puch te button
I think the Incident is Widmore turning the Wheel.
The incident can't be Widmore turning the wheel. He didn't leave the island until 1984, but the incident is referred to by Candle in the Swan orientation video from 1980.
As far as Rose and Bernard go, I've been going with the theory that they holed up in the caves, figuring they get shelter and water that way regardless of time period. Something happens and they die there and become Adam and Eve. The only problem is that they would have to have died in the 1954 time period (or other similar period) because Jack says "It takes 40 or 50 years for clothing to degrade like this" in House of the Rising Sun. So maybe they got hit with flaming arrows or something, stumbled to the cave, and then died. Anyway, that's the best I've got at this point.
I'm thinking about something else...
LOOK at all we have to this date on the finale...
and it is:
1) The Incident title - it totaled me. I really can't wait.
2) We have Jason and Samuel - "Looking for someone very interesting and very special for this role..." - they will probably kick ass and will be SUPER important to the story.
3) Young Natalie/Donna - I think this is Donna = Young Kate, Natalie = her sister. Her mother (Alice) is divorcing with papa Austen. It would rather suck to be in the finale, but it may be something like - 'losing my father was sad, so is losing you, sawyer' ;)
4) Young Emily/Bob - no idea... someone tried guessing?
5) Mr Springer - 'hard-ass' i think it will be a good role.
6) Cpt. Bird - black rock? hope so
7) Doug & Young Jeff - no idea...
basically...
The title is "The Incident", we know that they're looking for 2 roles that will be MASSIVE, we have a little 'clue' that maybe we'll also in this episode see the black rock, AND we have FIVE children cast into an ep called "The Incident"! mindfucking for me :) it's gonna be epic, i really already can't wait for it! :)
Can some explain the real reason why if Daniel dies (I keep hearing in the comments that he will be the one to die), how he will be alive in 2004 when he arrives on the freighter, how he is alive at Oxford in 1996 when he is visted by Desmond in "The Constant". Also if I have idea right that what ever happened,happened, and the idea that if happened in past then it always happened was that way,how would he be alive ? JUst like if the Incident happens, then it happens and it still had happened in 2004 when the losties arrived and the swan protocol was clearly still in affect. Just like the purge happened and stiil happened when the losties arrived evidenced by the mass grave. I dont see how any of these main characters that are still alive in 2004 could die in the past. Unless they are setting us for some shocking revelations or Im just totally missing the point, Either way I would love some answers and feedback if Im wrong.
Can some explain the real reason why if Daniel dies (I keep hearing in the comments that he will be the one to die), how he will be alive in 2004 when he arrives on the freighter, how he is alive at Oxford in 1996 when he is visted by Desmond in "The Constant". Also if I have idea right that what ever happened,happened, and the idea that if happened in past then it always happened was that way,how would he be alive ? JUst like if the Incident happens, then it happens and it still had happened in 2004 when the losties arrived and the swan protocol was clearly still in affect. Just like the purge happened and stiil happened when the losties arrived evidenced by the mass grave. I dont see how any of these main characters that are still alive in 2004 could die in the past. Unless they are setting us for some shocking revelations or Im just totally missing the point, Either way I would love some answers and feedback if Im wrong.
Um...doesn't Widmore say Ben tricked him into turning the wheel and people think he turned it in 1984?...My question...is how did Ben have any interaction with Widmore? Wasn't Ben in Dharma until the Purge in 1992?
I had read somewhere else that it was supposed to be called "Wrestling with Angels", so this is disappointing :(
"Can some explain the real reason why if Daniel dies (I keep hearing in the comments that he will be the one to die), how he will be alive in 2004 when he arrives on the freighter, how he is alive at Oxford in 1996 when he is visted by Desmond in "The Constant"."
The same way John Locke visited Alpert two years before he was born. They may be in the island's past, but it is still the character's (in this case, Faraday's) present/future.
Faraday lived until he came to the island in December 2004. I don't know if we've been given his age, for sake of this example, let's say he's 37 yrs old the day the time flashes start when Ben turns the FDW. He spends a couple of days time-skipping, then lives 3yrs from 1974-1977 in DHARMA time. Faraday doesn't become a child again, he celebrates his 38th... 39th... and 40th birthdays in the 70s with DHARMA. Then comes the incident at some undetermined (as yet) time, where you speculate he might die... let's say that's in 1978, meaning Daniel was born (in this example) in 1967, came to the island at 37yo in 2004 when he traveled back to 1973 and lived for four years until he dies at age 41 in the island's 1978. He's not 11 years old at that point, he's lived 41 yrs... and already done the things you mention (freighter, events of "The Constant") before coming to the island and being tossed into the past.
jrrl said...
The only problem is that they would have to have died in the 1954 time period (or other similar period) because Jack says "It takes 40 or 50 years for clothing to degrade like this" in House of the Rising Sun. So maybe they got hit with flaming arrows or something, stumbled to the cave, and then died. Anyway, that's the best I've got at this point.
That was really just a guesstimate on Jack's part. 30 years would be more than enough, really.
if there is a failsafe mechanism in place below the floor of the computer room that will destroy the Swan and permanently and safely seal the electromagnetic anomaly, Why not use it directly instead of pressing the button every 108 minutes?
Bad title, but I'm excited about the subject matter.
It's starting to look to me like that Daniel Faraday causes the incident and this will be when one of our losties bites the dust.
yes, it´s nice title, I think, that it will be very great and very action´s episode, another Mission Impossible??, hahaha:))
rcarbone65 said...
"if there is a failsafe mechanism in place below the floor of the computer room that will destroy the Swan and permanently and safely seal the electromagnetic anomaly, Why not use it directly instead of pressing the button every 108 minutes?"
Most likely because, even if it was unknown to MOST of the Initiative, the higher ups knew of some use for the energy. The only problem was, that when they DIDN'T want to use it, it started to build up on its own, causing a need for it to be discharged. So some higher up Dharma decided to initiate a protocol to get some lackies to keep pushing the button, instead of permanently sealing off the power (possibly after the incident made them realize the need for it?), just in case they might need to use it again. WHAT use the energy could have, BESIDES time-travel, is something we may not know yet... there may be more reasons they wanted to keep it accessable besides some danger-fraught time traveling. Perhaps it the energy that powers everything on the island, including the "security system" we know as the Smoke Monster? That would explain a need to keep it around. This is just speculation though, because there is still power (and a Smoke Monster) after Des turns the key, "sealing" the energy off. All just what's been running through my head after my analysis of the show and reading everyone's comments. Also, I'm almost POSITIVE Farrady has something to do with the Incident, and I'm just excited to find out what it is, and how it all goes down.
anybody reckon "the incident" is the thing tht totally traumatises young ben and turns him into the manipulating, calculating, bug-eyed, baton weilding leader of the others we love/hate today?? O_o maybe annies death??!! :O
@nikar, even if Faraday dies in the 80s, his mom will still leave the island in the 80s and give birth to him.
I still think someone will be sucked into time and become Jacob in The Incident, and exist outside of time but be connected to the island, always looking for help. I hope it's Jack (just because I love the idea of Jack being the real man behind the curtain), but Faraday's looking a little more plausible now. His mother almost rolled her eyes at his "help me" message, like she'd heard it a thousand times before. And that's what Jacob says to Locke.
(But Jack=Jacob... better fit. How would you get 'Jacob' out of Daniel Faraday?)
For everyone confused, here's a nice article.
I think the incident will be locke trying to turn the wheel on the swan and that wheel blows up, sending the losties (that will be with locke) back to the present where all the others survivors stayed.
Some dharma people will be trying to get on the swan and marvin candle will be the one that builds the wall to stop the electromagnetic pulse to expand.
The computer would be the thing they had to try to use the wheel correctly... but with the energy source damaged, he started to use the computer to discharge the wall.
It was the wall that concentrated the electromagnetic pulse. When the numbers where introduced on the computer on the correct order, the wall would discharge into the sky the energy and the island wouldn´t move in time.
But, marvin was still thinking that if some human failed (remember the ARG games where they told us that humans cannot be trusted and that dharma wanted to find a way to get a perfect society) there should be a way to completly destroy the energy source. In the time they could find a way to use the energy again and back to travel.
He had that builded on the orchid. We saw the room where marvin made the bunny (and the orchid) travel 3 minutes into the past. So they did found out how to travel in time. And that´s what miss hawkings knows and the other dharma members that where on the lampost. Probably daniel will be the one to get them that information... but then the swan is destroyed. Many people die (well our losties will be back into the present... without ben) on that.
What the key that desmond use is trigger the jughead. But since there is a big electromagnetic field surrounding it, the explosion is contained like an implosion. And that magnetic bubble is the thing that protected desmond, locke and eko. Eko too travelled in time. But smokey knew that he would have lived terrible moments of his past. That´s why he was killed. Desmond lived some of his best moments of life with his girlfriend... the the worst moment. And he meet miss hawkings on that jump.
Turn the wheel on the swan?
I think that "the incident" is caused by Faraday seeing the son of Amy and Horace Goodspeed. Who is the baby? It's Daniel Faraday, of course, and they, unfortunately, meet in episode 16, thus causing the incident. The older Daniel gets zapped outside of the space-time continuum and becomes Jacob. Why the name Jacob? Because that is his real name - the one his real mother and father gave to him. The name Daniel is given to him by the mother who adopts him, Mrs. Hawking. My guess is that the shocking thing that Mrs. Hawking does is stealing the baby from Amy and Horace. We couldn't let the baby die in the purge, now could we?
Thanks Jack for the explanation!
Isn't Amy's baby supposed to be Ethan?
'The Incident' is going to be ghost Nikki and Paulo returning and everyone will gather around them and have a fiesta. There... let's move on.
@ Dawgma
very interesting idea. Hmmm...
I also really hate to bring this up, but, um, could this be a red herring?? Is this a big loaf of... bread? Or are we getting a literal truth like with FDW?
My little fantasy on The Incident (previously written in "What Kate did: The Incident" a theory which never came up in the site, don't know why):
* There's an "upcoming" war between Daniel Faraday & Ben.
* Blinded by love and grief Daniel wants to trigger the Jughead bomb, destroy the island (and so be killed, like everyone else) in order to save Charlotte!
* Ben will forced Kate & Jack and the other 06 to save the past. Whatever happened have to happened.
* That would be a neat arc. There's a thin chance that it's gonna happen. And then Season Six will be in the present/future and will be about the Widmore/Ben war and Jack & Locke in it and big answers will be coming. In my fantasy the season 5 would be the last. Why? Because it would be huge and tricky, antispectacular, and the battle will be about saving the past and not changing anythig. It would be politically strong and totally unpredicted! It would give an end to the 815ers story but would let the island live in our dreams for a long, long time.
In regards to HUGUES DEROLEZ's fantasy about LOST ending after this season...
It's a damn good thing that you're not in charge of making that happen or not because you'd have a few million LOSTIES running after you with pitch forks and tridents, looking to spear one through you a hundred and eight times.
Ahahaha. I know.
We already know that the bomb does not go off.
Of course because you can't change the past, "whatever happened happened" but maybe Daniel could try to change it. I won't be surprise by that.
Again with the whole whatever happened happened thing. Everything the losties are doing in the 70's, was always meant to happen.
By killing the 2 others and saving Amy, Sawyer didn't change anything. It always happened.
Holy potatoes, Batman!!! The season 5 finale, awesomely titled "The Incident" (aka aside from Smokey and everything else mysterious was one of the first over-arching big mysteries of the series) IS ON MY BIRTHDAY!!!! MAY 13th!!!!
Happy Birthday to me,
Happy Birthday to me!
Happy Birthday, here's a season finale called "The Incident" that's 2-hours long and that gonna (hopefully) answer some kick-ass questions more than it asks, while making me crap my pants from excitement, so hope I get some Dharma toilet paper for my 20th birthday...........
Happy Birthday to me!
Events in order of importance on Wednesday, May 13th, 2009:
*LOST 2-HOUR SEASON 5 FINALE
*My 20th Birthday
*Tony Hawk's Bday
*Jasmine Trias Day in Hawai'i (American Idol season 2...the 1st and only season I watched)
CANT WAAAAIIIITTTTTTT!!!!!!
what is the date?
what is the date of these episodes?