Episode 5.16/5.17 - The Incident - Promo and Screencaps

Episode 5.16/5.17 - The Incident - Promo and Screencaps
Posted by DarkUFO at 5/07/2009 03:07:00 AM (Comments: 204)
Labels: The Incident, Trailers, Video

Update: 9th May Thanks again to rolfe016 for this other image.

Update: Thanks to rolfe016, Harrison and others for finding this single frame screencap in the promo. It looks like it could be the other side of the wall where Richard is hammering.

Thanks as always to The Strog for the video.

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Zakaria said...: This post has been removed by the author.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:12:00 AM
Zakaria said...: Yay Sawyer's back on the island. Kate don't you dare side with Jack after you did me proud last ep and wohoo 4 Suliet. Love how Hurley looks up to Sawyer now, not Jack. Reckon Locke is smokey!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:13:00 AM
Hugues Derolez said...: Wohohohoh blood everywhere and bomb and DOOM! This season's end is so doom-metal men :D

Is that Jacob talking to Jack (all bloody)?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:15:00 AM
Jacob'sPotGuy said...: Locke pisses me off. I was all touched that he cared about the 05, but he's just gonna kill Jacob? Bonkers. Just effin Bonkers.
Locke wants to be king of the Island baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Still, maybe I won't answer Jacob's calls for awhile....; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:15:00 AM
Zachary said...: I don't think Locke is smokey, but I do think that Jacob and the Island are NOT on the same side as I once thought that they were.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:15:00 AM
T.L.A. said...: There will be an incident inside TV sets that are ill-equipped for this level of awesomeness.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:15:00 AM
moviemaniac226 said...: Anyone disappointed with the promo? It just doesn't seem to contain the epic feeling of "Through the Looking Glass" or "There's No Place Like Home". I really hope we get something other than the usual Temple and Dharmaville drama. Let's go back to the Swan.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:16:00 AM
b3rt4 said...: I really like the new John Locke.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:16:00 AM
dyron0091 said...: Locke Sun Ben Richard And The Others Are On The Main Island?
While
Lapedus Is On The Small Island Where Hydra Station Is With The People Talking About "What Lies Under The Statue?"; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:17:00 AM
William W said...: Holy &$@* - Jack shooting at Sawyer in Dharmaville? Mindblown.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:17:00 AM
deedog said...: Are you kidding moviemaniac226?!?!?! I'm literally buzzing right now off of that promo!!!!!!! OMG, KILL JACOB!?!?!? WHAT THE H****???; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:18:00 AM
prettybutt said...: JACK IS SO EPIC..I can't WAIT; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:19:00 AM
ruinerny said...: I have a feeling Sawyer stops Jack from changing time. Sawyer and Kate seem to be the Islands tools for course correcting, First by saving Little Ben and now by ensuring the Incident happens.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:23:00 AM
moviemaniac226 said...: Uhm...no. I'm not kidding. I'm saying some people get a little spastic immediately after watching an episode because they don't give it time to sink in.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:23:00 AM
Jorge said...: Jack is epic.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:24:00 AM
pottswr said...: locke is kind of creeping me out now

jack shooting at sawyer?
hmm maybe sawyer will die

locke wanting to kill jacob?
you cant kill jacob
bens going to stop him

richard seemed scared of locke in this epsidoe; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:25:00 AM
Chris Roberts said...: Next week will be Jack VS Sawyer.I am not a jack hater but he Is acting as stupid as his desperate season 3 get off the Island mission.So far nothing done In 1977 has changed anything.The twist could be jack's actions cause the Incident and will lead to 816 crashing.We know from past Jacob has communicated with Ben and richard knew of him In 1954.So big tweat will finally be seeing Jacob next week.We will see what Is In the metal box Illyania and Bram brought on 815.I am also curious to see how Christin Is featured next week.Could he for the first time since season 1 Jack clearly sees him(not counting the brief moment In season 4) or does he appear to Locke when he shows up after jacob.And the question IS who dies and what Is going on with Locke.Perhapes there Is a conflict between jacob Vs the Smoke monster.Hope more spoilers leak soon.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:25:00 AM
Josh Kader said...: You dont need a promo to know this episode is going to be the bomb. haha.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:26:00 AM
jake3988 said...: How in the blue heck do Sawyer and Juliet get back to the island so damn fast?

The sub clearly already took off, they really going to stop it, turn it around, and go back?!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:28:00 AM
KingPin said...: was that jacob behind alpert when he hits the wall?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:30:00 AM
Ben said...: I have a feelin we will understand the ring of black ash around jacobs cabin after this next eps; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:32:00 AM
Tyler said...: Maybe i'm looking too deep into the promo...but if you pause it at the right moment right after Richard sledge Hammers the wall (at 21 seconds) there is an image of what looks like a storage room in the white blast. You can't see it unless you pause at the correct place.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:33:00 AM
Hugues Derolez said...: KingPin: No it was clearly Eloise Hawking.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:33:00 AM
Dave Thompson said...: OMG Ilana and Bram are Jacob's people then!?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:34:00 AM
Ben said...: KingPin that was elli behind richard in that clip; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:34:00 AM
Tyler said...: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6439/incident.jpg; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:35:00 AM
William W said...: Tyler, I saw that too but I could never get it to pause in the same place! Cool to think an easter egg that like was hidden.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:36:00 AM
michaelk said...: Ring of Ash around Jacobs cabin is probably keeping Smokey at bay.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:38:00 AM
William W said...: Ah! I think I know what it is. Richard is hammering out an exit of the tunnels (maybe they have trapped Jack and Sayid in there? or maybe they just want to get away from the blasted). If you look at the wall of the storage room, the middle title is jutting out slightly. Must have been a very slight mistake on the editors part.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:38:00 AM
anil said...: Josh Kader,
Good one! hahaa! :D

This promo rocks but it could ave been a minute long .. it is the finale after all. 30 secs ain't enough. Ugh how am i gonna sleep for a week? =D; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:43:00 AM
Universo Lost said...: who said "THIS IS IT" in the promo? Looks like Desmond's voice... what you guys thing?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:43:00 AM
Tyler said...: I think you are correct Will, Richard said they didnt get it in through the water tunnel so they probably sealed up the hole they did bring it in and he is breaking the hole again to get it out....The fade to white wasn't quick enough in the editing suite though :); Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:48:00 AM
GregDean said...: Jack has truly become Locke... believing in destiny, blowing stuff up. Finally putting his crazy Jackface eyes to good use !

I think the reason this promo doesn't have the "epic" feeling that past finales did is that this one really emphasizes the ACTION, more than big, sweeping emotional stuff.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:49:00 AM
GregDean said...: Looks like Jin will be ending the season doing what he did since the beginning... almost nothing ! Well, LOST has a very expensive extra there, that's for sure.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:50:00 AM
zow said...: if you look at the right side of that pic tyler, you can see a man with something over his headd; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:50:00 AM
Farfalla said...: what does Jack say to kate at the end of the promo???my audio is terrible!! oh my god!!I can't wait seven days!!!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:51:00 AM
dharmaworkman said...: @ Universo Lost--

I don't think it's Desmond's voice saying that. I wish it was though. Something tells me we have seen the last of my fav character...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:54:00 AM
Kyle said...: I LOVE the direction the characters are all going in...

Jack has become desperate and depressed and is on the same downward spiral as Locke was. I like how we thought he was redeeming himself after his breakdown but he actually hadn't hit the bottom yet. Matthew Fox has been amazing portraying Jack at his worst as well as at his best. I really hope he has a redemption arc next season.

Sayid naturally is following Jack since he was just as miserable off Island as Jack was. I hope he survives too because I would like to see him redeemed after this. Him and Jack are my favorite characters!

Sawyer seemed to be empty after he finally let go of his burden, but instead it seems he found a way to become the great man he was supposed to be before that tragedy. He has already redeemed himself (which actually kind of scares me cause he might die!)

Kate naturally opposes Jack on this because she was one of the people for whom the Island and its aftermath changed her life for the better. She has also grown up, much like Sawyer. Hopefully, this doesn't mean she is the one to die, because I like the new Kate with the noble purpose of finding Claire, rather than the immature Kate who devolved into a 2D love interest for seasons 2 and 3.

Locke has finally found his purpose, but what are his intentions now? Whose side is he on? What are the sides?!?!?! I love that he has returned to the mystery he was in season 1.

Juliet finally found a reason to embrace her circumstances in Sawyer and all she wants is for their life to continue peacefully. She would much rather just leave all of this behind which leaves her with not much of a stake in what happens to everyone else. It will be sad to see her dragged back into the drama by Sawyer, I hope nothing happens to her.

Ben is now completely lost but still remains a mystery, along with Richard. I really hope that he and Richard will finally spill what they know in an effort to stop Locke. But something tells me that Ben is far to shaken by the Monster's instructions.

Sun and Jin probably won't have much to do, but I feel they are safe and I hope they are reunited soon.

Hurley and Miles make a great team, they will be awesome next year assuming they survive. Miles is probably safe because it seems he still might have some purpose toward the endgame, but I'm worried about Hurley.

This looks like it will be an epic finale. It is sad to see characters I love turned against each other, but it makes for EXCELLENT storytelling. Theres something satisfying about when a TV show actually takes character arcs in logical directions. Sadly, it is VERY rare.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:55:00 AM
asshole2 said...: how are sawyer, kate, and juliet back on the island already and why isn't sawyer still all bruised and bloody?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:57:00 AM
Brad said...: Could Smoke Monster in Alex form have been referring to Locke killing Jacob? As in...if Ben really has a problem with this plan, Smokey could have KNOWN this would come to pass, thus ORDERING Ben to follow Locke's every word? You know, but I'm not sure if it said that to Ben PURELY for this scenario...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:57:00 AM
lostfan012 said...: What's Richard supposed to think about destroying the Island? He lives there and he's in his present time in 1977. If the Island blows up all his people will die, they won't disappear, because that's where they're from. Eloise and Charles won't disappear, they're in their present time in 1977 - they'll die too. Why would they think that blowing up the Island is a good idea?

The Locke who says he doesn't care to be reunited with his people....that doesn't sound like the Locke I know. There's got to be a great twist there, because I don't think people want to see Locke turn into a heartless tyrant who doesn't care about anything but being leader of the Others.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:58:00 AM
Lauren said...: i like the screen cap where Jack looks like a Ghostbuster!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:59:00 AM
BenSaysGood said...: I have thought for awhile now, after Jacob said to Locke help me that maybe Locke is going to kill Jacob because that is what Jacob wants. Can he be someone trapped against his will and the only way to free him is to kill him?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:04:00 AM
Track said...: Does anyone think that is ridiculous that Richard seems to recognize the Losties on the photo based on 1977???? He saw them like a million times during the first 4 seasons!!!!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:05:00 AM
Brett said...: Classic Jackface in the screencap of him aiming his gun. And Track? Of Jack Kate and Hurley Richard only met Kate and he met her for like 5 minutes in the season 4 finale.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:06:00 AM
BenSaysGood said...: @Kyle - I have been on the same track about people dying after they have come to terms with their past lives and redeemed themselves. On another post I listed all the people who have died on the show and how they were redeemed (or not, case of Ecko) from their past.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:13:00 AM
samuel sebastian mooney said...: I'm intrigued by the third picture from the left in the third row down of Sayid. Is he in a Dharma jumpsuit? And what is that structure behind him? Interesting...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:24:00 AM
Brad said...: -This kind of makes me think, well, the incident can still happen, but they could also succeed in changing their future, and if 815 lands in L.A., the '77 Losties will have been "flashed" back ON to the plane, yet they will retain all of their memories, and thus it would not negate all the character growth for everyone.

-Jack could be shooting up Dharmaville so that they can uncover and move the Jughead bomb.

-With that backpack, coupled with his new attitude, Jack is almost a SPITTING IMAGE of Locke. :)

-That wound on Jack's forehead = similar to Filling-Through-Brain guy?

-Jacob in the box maybe? Brought him back for his resurrection or something along those lines?

-Sawyer/Juliet/Kate standing in front of the Black Rock! !?!?!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:25:00 AM
mjo575 said...: I'll tell you what truly bothers me about Picture 21. I see a wounded Sawyer trying to get back to the Dharma facilities, and Jack pointing his gun at Sawyer's back. What haunts me is Sawyer and Juliet's expression of love for each other. "I've got your back." Wonder where Juliet is at this moment?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:25:00 AM
Brett said...: Sayid is in front of the structure that Jughead was housed in in 1954; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:28:00 AM
speedhoon said...: This post has been removed by the author.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:29:00 AM
Locke081 said...: "I don't speak destiny"

LMAO!

But what I don't get about Jack, if he knows Eloise sent him back knowing he was going to blow up the island and so that's his purpose, then he knows, or he should know, that his damned plan didn't work!

I guess I don't speak destiny either! LOL!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:31:00 AM
Ana - PandaVamp said...: WOW! The finale is going to be just EPIC. *_* Lots of confrontation... So, where are we going? lol I just hope Locke can stop what Jack is trying to do, I mean, I can't even begin to understand why Eloise and Richard are helping him. Nothing against The Doc, but I feel he's wrong. :/

"I'm with you"

Nuff said, James. :D; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:34:00 AM
Davi Garcia said...: Did anyone understand what Alpert said to Ben?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:34:00 AM
IOIOIOI said...: Jack losing his damn fool mind is pretty hilarious. He has become what he once despised. Which makes me wonder if Locke and Jack are going to meet one another in the middle somewhere. It seems plausible, and highly entertaining!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:44:00 AM
JDubTrey said...: D@mn, since the sub trip was tonight and they come back for the finale, I guess Sawyer could be the major death. That would suck.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:49:00 AM
Locke081 said...: How do people see Sawyer in that pic of Jack shooting wildly into the village of children? Heck, I thought he was shooting at children. (Like maybe Ben got back from the Temple and Jack caps Annie by accident.)

Is there a clearer picture somewhere? I paused my TV a billion times and couldn't make out the details!

If Jack were to accidentally kill someone like Juliet or Kate, he'd better hope and by dern that he can erase his past.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:52:00 AM
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Basil said...: screencap 20 is a total jackface :D; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57:00 AM
IOIOIOI said...: Jackface: not to be confused with Manningface, Peytonface, or ArtShellFace.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:11:00 AM
NiKarDesign said...: Everyone keeps talking about blowing up the Island. What I took from Faradhy's speech was that he wanted to blow up the swan. I thought he meant that the energy from the swan combined w/ the energy from the bomb would negate, thus causing the swan to be destroyed like w the failsafe switch or just the energy would not be released and there would b no need to set up the protocal for pushing the button. Which in turn would mean Des dosent bring the plane down and the plane lands in LA. I know he used the word negate when speaking of the energy, I never heard him say destroy the Island. Kate said destroy the Island if it does not work. Maybe Im wrong, any thoughts?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:41:00 AM
destroyer said...: @NikarDesign:

i'm with you, i came here to say that, actually. I don't think there's such thing, blowing up the island.

I hope Sawyer and Juliet will be fine. God, they were beautiful today.

What does Jack say to Kate?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:49:00 AM
speedhoon said...: T R A N S C R I P T someone please!!! :); Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:51:00 AM
Kate1432 said...: Kate: Jack has a bomb, he could kill everyone on the island!

Jack: Being here is our destiny.

Sawyer: I don't speak destiny!

Kate: We have to stop him!

Jack: What the hell are you doin?

:Frank: What's in the box?

Locke: Will you be able to do this?

Juliet: I saw you look at her

Sawyer: I'm with you

Richard: There can only be one leader on the island!!

Person: This IS IT!

Jack: Are you with me on this?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:12:00 AM
joshi said...: Um, anyone else zero in on the line of black smudges at the top of the 'crate'?

They look like they have legs..like spiders.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:12:00 AM
Alpha said...: OMG! XD That expression on Jack's face when he's shooting at Othersville/DI village is pricelss! Can't stop laughing!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:13:00 AM
Kate1432 said...: I can't wait! And Richard better not turn bad, especially on Locke. I thought Richard was cool.. :( And Ben had better accept the fact that LOCKE IS THE NEW LEADER. Ben is starting to annoy me..... and Kate. (As usual) But, next week looks totally awesome. :D; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:14:00 AM
speedhoon said...: Thanks!! Kate1432^^; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:14:00 AM
bitchymode said...: I think Jack says "Being here isn't our destiny", but idk, I could hear that wrong xD; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:16:00 AM
Zetaprime said...: I also got the impression that Daniel meant to use the bomb to negate the energy under the Swan, not to obliterate the island, which even the largest nuke couldn't do to an island that size, though it might render it unfit for most forms of life for a little while (in geologic time).; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:30:00 AM
dana23 said...: Jack: Being here is our destiny.
Sawyer: I don't speak destiny.

Jack is now Locke and Sawyer is now Jack. lol. It certainly looks like they have a go at one another with Juliet maybe trying to referee. But, of course, looks can be deceiving on a promo.

I'm excited, but saddened too, knowing that after next week there will be no Lost for soooooooooo very long.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:36:00 AM
destroyer said...: Also, we know that Radzinsky lives to be Kelvin's partner, so unless there's a new timeline if the plan works, the plan should not work.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:40:00 AM
liloli83 said...: Is Juliet really still so insecure or is it more quad-baiting by the promo editors?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:41:00 AM
Nick Moss said...: I am interested in the mission that Locke gives to Ben. Maybe he tells Ben to kill Richard so he does not try to stop whatever John is going to do with Jacob. No matter what happens in the finale I think it is going to be one of the best finales and make the time off until the final season seem like the longest break ever.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:56:00 AM
JB said...: Hope Juliet doesn't die! Period.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:16:00 AM
arshed_13 said...: Maybe the bomb is the reason to the mother-deaths. Maybe the radioactivity i causes the mothers do die when their child is born?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:18:00 AM
dana23 said...: BTW, I think it’s possible that when Locke talks about killing Jacob, he means it metaphorically. I think he may believe Jacob does not really exist (he said in his speech that no one has actually seen Jacob – then the camera pans to Ben and Richard with surprised looks on their faces who are, no doubt, surprised that Locke would say this in front of the others), so he (i.e., Locke) is taking everyone to Jacob to show them that there is really no Jacob; thus making him the only leader who will not have to report to or take orders from anyone.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:20:00 AM
Nick Moss said...: That could be true Dana. If it is, I wonder what does Locke think he saw when Jacob appeared when Ben first took him to the cabin?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:25:00 AM
Vathian said...: Me theory is as follows...

Locke is Jacob.

I've thought this for quite some time and tonights episode pretty much sealed the deal in my mind.

To reveal that any earlier in the present-losties timeline would've caused a massive WTF panic and send the individuals involved out of sync with their expected results. (I believe that the show is a massive loop and will end with the plane crashing in the series finale.)

Locke is headed off to kill himself because that's what the Island needs, his first death wasn't the death spoken about, it's his second one. He was approached by himself (aka Jacob) and that's what he means by "The Island told me" when Ben asked how he knew when he would arrive at the plane. That's also how he can be so confident that Ben has never met Jacob because if he had he would be reacting completely differently. (It's also why smokey-Alex told Ben to follow him, because he's Jacob.) By leading ALL of his people to "Jacobs" cabin and them watching him kill his other-self they will NEVER doubt his leadership ever again.

Of course this all requires John going even farther back in time but given the energy relase with the upcoming "incident" I don't see why that won't be able happen.

Thoughts?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:31:00 AM
toonsterwu said...: If the death isn't Swayer or Juliet, I'll be fairly surprised. I'm hard pressed to see Sayid as the death - the idea that his arc was done was based on the idea that he "killed" Ben. Now that he knows Ben is alive, that changes the equation.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:40:00 AM
hatebox said...: Doesn't really feel like a finale promo...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:01:00 AM
sagasta said...: >>>>>>But what I don't get about Jack, if he knows Eloise sent him back knowing he was going to blow up the island and so that's his purpose, then he knows, or he should know, that his damned plan didn't work!<<<<<<<

That is only if Whatever Happened Happened is the reality. Daniel convinced Jack that it can be changed, and maybe that is why Eloise sent Jack to the Island, to prevent Daniel from getting shot and prevent Oceanic 815 from crashing.

But Jack doesn't know that Eloise sent Daniel to his own death, and that the hydrogen bomb will not stop the Incident.....it will probably only save their lives by negating the energy and send them to the present, thus fulfilling their destinies and preserving the timeline.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:12:00 AM
Love-Over said...: I love your theory VATHIAN!

I really hope that happens... it would be so coool! I never though jacob was bad at all; Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:13:00 AM
blighty said...: Unfortunately I think Sawyer is going to die next week, he's given up on Kate so that arc is done. It's 1977 a key year for him if his parents died then. Maybe he was supposed to die with them and he was given life to continue until he's redeemed himself or found true, passion free (snorefest) love. Sawyer died this week as far as I'm concerned.

I don't know why they've put in the teaser about Sawyer looking at Kate and Juliet being upset with a sad face. It's as if they're taunting the Sawyer Kate fans. Although the writers do like to hammer home character decisions like we're all stupid. Equivalent of 'my son,' and Jack 'fixing things.' Sawyer loves Juliet.

It wouldn't be so bad if they'd made more of the Sawyer Juliet relationship but it's been one kiss! No flashbacks and one episode, pathetic. The sub scene was the only decent romantic minute they got and nothing else between them lived up to that. So sexy, sarcastic, bad boy Sawyer, the favorite character of Lost, goes out of the series with a relationship that makes viewers snore to watch it. I honestly believed this was a filler to keep the triangle going and a boring filler at that.

Sawyer and Kate fans are going to be justifiably disappointed in this it's a measly end to a wonderful story and I don't see how they can recover their relationship now. Really, really disappointed and wish I hadn't invested the time.

No wonder the Lost team looked surprised when they got the positive Sawyer and Kate reaction in France they know they've royally screwed up. And this confirms why EL only talked about Jack and Kate having too little time to get together, because Sawyer is dead and that is no longer an option.

Don't care if they're blown up, get their seats back on the plane or come out of the temple as wrinkies, I liked the relationship and Lost is done for me. The only triangle there could be now is Jack, Juliet and Kate. I've suspected that this would be the case in Series 6 and now I'm even more convinced this is going to happen.

Bye bye Sawyer, a poor end for an excellent character.

And bye the way for an ace spoiler site I'm really surprised that the finale death hasn't been revealed yet.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:58:00 AM
Emily said...: Look at picture 15! That's Vincent in Sayid's backpack.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:03:00 AM
Jake Chambers said...: This promo isn't what I expected... :D

Anyway... I have to get back to something... Everybody talks about TTLG as being a game-changer. I never perceived it that way - they just changed the way they told the story, not the nature of story itself... But this time... I have the feeling there will be a REAL game changer... or maybe I just percieve the phrase differently.
Anyway, can't wait... and after that, a looooooong wait to s6, knowing it's the last one :(; Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:06:00 AM
lucy said...: blighty: you are very very pesimistic. Sawyer will not die in next week, ahhhh.

I see it, that you will have nice ending with Sawyer in next season. Maybe with Kate, maybe with Juliet, so don´t be pesimistic.

I´m looking forward on next week. Jack looks really as Locke, only more in bigger depression.:))

Locke, I´m curious with it with Jacob, woooou, it will be so crazy, hahaha:); Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:46:00 AM
BlackrockBob said...: I see Jack finally as the voice of reason and faith, and Sawyer as the man of Science. It's Jack vs Locke, but they have changed. I hope Jack succeeds and Sawyer doesn't stop him. I used to love Sawyer, but he isn't the jokester conman any more. I am glad Jack's going to stand up to him. Too bad Kate is back with Sawyer, that means doom for poor Juliet. I mean that red shirt is just cruel.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:11:00 AM
Alpha said...: "sagasta said...

That is only if Whatever Happened Happened is the reality. Daniel convinced Jack that it can be changed, and maybe that is why Eloise sent Jack to the Island, to prevent Daniel from getting shot and prevent Oceanic 815 from crashing.

But Jack doesn't know that Eloise sent Daniel to his own death, and that the hydrogen bomb will not stop the Incident.....it will probably only save their lives by negating the energy and send them to the present, thus fulfilling their destinies and preserving the timeline."

Yeah, it seems like all of this has happened before. Like someone mentioned in here, this is probably all a big loop, and Eloise sent back Daniel to try and prevent his death, along with everything else. The question is, could this be the time that Jack actually succeeds?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:22:00 AM
toonsterwu said...: I've pondered the idea that Locke is Jacob as well, but I've pondered it in a slightly different way. The thought I had was that maybe Locke goes there but ends up getting trapped by Alpert in some sort of portal and becomes the mythical "Jacob" making Jacob from the present, but able to go through time. The other thought I had was maybe Locke goes there and Richard traps him there and Locke replaces Jacob. Maybe Jacob is Christian Sheperd and the season finale ends with a shot of Jack coming back to the present, staring down his dad, and the power struggle these two have is what season 6 is about. The hints seem to suggest that Jack's actions, in some way, is what leads to the death, though, so I'm not sure on any Locke=Jacob possibilities, unless someone a burst of energy is needed for some reason. It sure feels like either Richard or Ben will do something to try and stop Locke.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:28:00 AM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: its JACK VS SAWYER; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:38:00 AM
blighty said...: Well Lucy if it's going to be Jim and Juliet and they're going to have the same lack lustre relationship they have to date then I won't be bothered to watch it, and if I do I'll probably drop off to sleep. How much romantic tension has there ever been in Sun and Jin, and Penny and Desmond, I'll tell you how much, none and it's become like that with Jim and Juliet. And Jack and Kate well....... If that's what's left of the romantic tension in Lost then meh!

The Sawyer/Kate/Jack triangle has been a major theme throughout and if this is the end of it then it's a total, total disappointment. Why did they bother writing WHH if this damp squib of an ending is what we get, it hasn't flared into an epic conflagaration it's just petered out. Kate doesn't have any choice, the choice is with Sawyer.

And Jack's choice after a relationship with Kate appears to be to blow everything up in order to avoid the misery. LMAO at that.

Sawyer has become unbelievable.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:45:00 AM
Lincoln said...: Here's some food for thought. This theory has some holes in it, but bare with me here...

What if the bomb gets transported along with Jack and everybody else, back to 2008. And this happens at the exact same time as the Incident.

Richard will somehow confuse the bomb going off with the Incident, because of this. And that's why he told Sun that he watched all of them die.

And maybe whatever is inside Ilana and Bram's big metal case will be something that they need to disarm the bomb. Or maybe secure the bomb for their own needs.

Just a thought.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:50:00 AM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: This post has been removed by a blog administrator.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:50:00 AM
DarkUFO said...: Final Warning Scottish Fan; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:54:00 AM
The Bionic Man said...: It really sound's like Desmond saying *This is it!".
I hope it is.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:13:00 AM
lucy said...: blighty: Writers said, that it will be Sawyer´s choice in next season and he will turn to Kate again, they said, that fans of Sawyer and Kate will be pleased with next season, so don´t worry.

I´m fan of Jack and Kate, but I discovered, that I don´t need them to be great lovers, I just love them together in action, in front of camera together, and I don´t want to care, if they will have happily ever after or baby, Lost isn´t soap opera. If I like soap opera, I would watch One three Hill or Grey´s. I don´t watch these tv shows. Only Desperate Housewives. I´m fan of character of Jack and Kate and nice relationship- it´s what I want for them, no romance, because relationships are part of this show too.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:18:00 AM
blighty said...: Hi Lucy, Well I hope this current story isn't the endgame because it's dire currently.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:26:00 AM
bastivy said...: I have no idea what's happening with this whole Jacob thing. All I know is that in the end, I will be on Richard's side...even if he's a baddie. That and I find John Locke absolutely frustrating (I'm probably alone on that), I'm not a fan.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:39:00 AM
mastershake said...: Where do u get Jack shooting at Sawyer? That promo is so fast. I don't think it's Sawyer. The guy he's shooting at is alot smaller, and also, why would Sawyer be back at Dharmaville? Even if he's warning everyone, if he were shooting at Sawyer he would have Kate and Juliette, or at least Juliette. And there is no way Jin would side with Jack. Not to blow up the island b4 he knows where Sun is. He doesn't know that she's in the future. I don't believe he's shooting at Sawyer. And BTW, Jack is not epic, he's just being the idiot he always was. Now he thinks that blowing up the island is gonna erase all of his F.U.'s on the island, and he will not be responsible for all the death's like Sawyer told him. The bomb wont go off because if it would have there would be no compound in 07' where Locke,Ben,Lapidus,Sun, and Alpert are. So that means he got stopped, or changed his mind. I'm pissed because I think Jack is gonna get Hurley killed. If he does I really hope Locke, or Sawyer kill him in the Next season. I really hate Jack's character because he is always screwing everything up for stupid selfish reasons. Just like when he betrayed his Father and destroyed him and his career.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:52:00 AM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: sorry dark but i just had a thought maybe its richard that dies in the finale wit dae yous think; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:55:00 AM
Lincoln said...: I think there's too much left unanswered about Richard to kill him off, just yet.

Plus, they're saying that the death will be on the emotional level of Charlie's death. I'm not sure anyone would be that upset if Richard died. They'd be more annoyed than anything.

I'd lay money that it's either Juliet or Hurley. And I'm leaning more toward Hurley, at this point, simply because everyone else is betting on Juliet :); Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:06:00 PM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: BASTIVY i agree with you, but whats with all you people saying jacks gonnae kill everyone i said this before i think the H bomb will just destroy the energy at the swan and in fact it will be the incident that will probaly kill alot of people jack will try to stop this but will not be alble to and redskisy and co will indeed keep drilling witch will cause the incident. The incident is gonnae happen people and jack will probaly try his best to stop it but i bet sawyer kate juliet will play a big part in stopping our true hero from saveing everyone will not everyone. GO JACK.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:10:00 PM
Lincoln said...: Also, if its Jacks cascade of mistakes that lead to the death. Like Kristin is hinting. It would be hard to imagine that Sawyer wouldn't immediately kill Jack, if he causes Juliet to get killed.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:13:00 PM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: lincoln your right i did not know anout the charlie death like thing i think its juliet now; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:13:00 PM
Matt said...: Ok..... took me a while to think of it too but, IS EVERYONE FORGETTING WHAT DEATH HAS DONE TO PEOPLE INVOLVING JACOB (Locke, Christian, etc...). Everyone got all kahoots about John saying he was going to kill him, as I did also, but I just put a couple odd ends together so heres what I think.

Obviously theres something fishy about Richard/Ben and the fact John knows Ben had never seen Jacob but only pretended to. When Ben and Richard say Locke is going to be trouble, my first thought was omg they have their own agenda going on here. Ben doesn't even know jacob, yet used him, as richard did as well, as justification for their actions. Locke, it seems, can finally speak with the island/Jacob. If Richard and Ben have truly been following Jacob's orders, they wouldnt question Locke at all. They would aid him in any way possible because they know what its like to be Jacobs messenger. However, they dont know jacob, and instead they realize John can talk to him and that their con is about to be up. You can ask then well why was Richard so eager to make Locke their leader in the first place? I think this is because, before his ressurection, Locke was a tool who would fall in line like all the other "Leaders" before him because he would actually take orders from Richard. Now he is a puppet no longer and that scares Richard and Ben.

Now on to Locke killing Jacob... What if this isn't a bad thing like we all think it is? What if by "killing" Jacob John is actually saving him. We have only heard Jacob say "Help Me" to John. JACOB IS IN TROUBLE. Something is wrong and he is somehow contained by these wannabe leaders a la Richard & co. Perhaps John is going to set him free? When John said he was going to kill Jacob, this seemed to scare the hell out of Ben even more than going to see Jacob so... thats my thought.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:15:00 PM
Lincoln said...: Yea. You can't always trust Kristin completely, because she tends to read too much into the info she has. But the hints she's dropped are that this death will have the emotional impact of Charlie's, that the person is the polar opposite of Charlie in at least one physical attribute, and that it'll be Jacks cascade of mistakes that lead to the death.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:18:00 PM
Lincoln said...: Matt, here is my theory about Locke "killing" Jacob...

I don't think he meant that he intends to kill him, in the literal sense. I think that Locke still believes that Jacob is merely a myth that Richard and Ben have been lying about forever.

I think that by "killing" him, he means to kill the "legend of Jacob", and let his people know the truth.

But, of course it will turn out Locke is wrong, and he'll be in for a huge surprise when he finds out that Jacob truly does exist.

I know that he hard him say "Help me", and that he's interacted with Christian, and everything. But I truly believe there is something to this theory.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:26:00 PM
Verv said...: All Juliet wanted was to leave the island and live her life in peace. Imagine how Sawyer is going to feel when his decisions lead to her death. Its going to rip him apart, and in his agony, he will of course turn to Kate. I think Juliet's death at this point, would be the hardest to swallow, and that's exactly why its going to be her.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:32:00 PM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: hers what i think when locke said he's going to kill jacob i think thats what he meant ok.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:51:00 PM
mona1984 said...: "I'm pissed because I think Jack is gonna get Hurley killed."

Unfortunately I have the same feeling and I really wonder how Jack could "fix" a mistake like that.

It's just because Jack is the new Locke and there was Locke/Boone and maybe Jack will also use everyone to get where he wants to be. I don't think his "trip" will be without killing a Lostie.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:53:00 PM
Locke's Other Kidney said...: I'm sorry but I don't put much faith in anything that comes from Kristin. Opposite of Charlie in at least one physical attribute? Let's see... that narrows it down to... probably everybody left on the island in some way or another. And besides, Darlton already said that they never claimed the death would be Charlie-like.

I have said all along the death will be Sayid. I'm still sticking with that, but I'm not feeling real good about Juliet now either.

Hurley? Sawyer? No way. Not gonna happen. They will be with us until the very end.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:59:00 PM
Lincoln said...: I don't trust most of what Kristin say either. But I have no reason to doubt that she does know who will die. And she ruled out Sayid and Jack. Is she full of it? Yea. Most of the time. But I've never known her to outright lie about anything.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:04:00 PM
rock said...: I think Locke is the new Jacob. Jacob might have been resurrected by the island the same way Locke was. Now his time is up, Locke will take over and Jack will lead the others.

Richard is the Advisor.
Jacob is the man behind the scenes
Then there's a leader; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:06:00 PM
Locke's Other Kidney said...: Yeah, I don't think Kristin out-and-out lies... I just think she sometimes makes assumptions about what she has heard that aren't entirely valid. If she's right about Sayid not being the major death, then Elizabeth Mitchell needs to cross her fingers that "V" gets picked up, 'cuz Juliet will be toast. Of course, I could making an invalid assumption myself...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:13:00 PM
Lincoln said...: Maybe Jacob needs a "vessel" to take form in. And for whatever reason, he chose Christian to be this "vessel". But for some reason it didn't work out. And now he needs Locke to be his "vessel". Maybe that's why Locke wants to "kill" him. Because if he "becomes" Jacob, or Jacob "becomes" him, he'll lose his free will.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:15:00 PM
Lincoln said...: I agree. I think she takes a lot of the info she gets, and overexaggerates it most of the time.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:18:00 PM
Lincoln said...: Now that I think about it. I think Kristin is the only person who has the inside scoop on the death. So for all we know the major death could be Phil, the way she overreacts to things! lol; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:23:00 PM
SockeRock said...: Locke is the False Prophet working for the Anti-Christ. Jacob has always been portrayed as God. We can't see God, yet we have faith he exists. Locke is trying to basically make the Others stop believing in Jacob or God.

Locke has consistently been on the wrong side and in league with the wrong people. If he had told the guy who came to him the truth about Anthony Cooper instead of lying when he was worried about his mother marrying Cooper, Cooper wouldn't have gotten a chance to murder him. Or when he found out the people at the commune were doing something illegal and he tried to shoot the cop because he wanted to take him down.

Or how about throwing the 815ers to the wolves because he suddenly wanted to be an Other because they told him he was special.

He wants to kill Jacob, because that's what his dark master told him to do.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:24:00 PM
Lincoln said...: Who would be his dark master?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:27:00 PM
Michael P, said...: Wow, you guys have great eyes to spot that screen cap.

Do we know if this season finale will be one hour long, or two?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:40:00 PM
Lincoln said...: 2 hours! Plus a 1 hour recap!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:44:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: Michael, how could two episodes be one hour? :P; Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:45:00 PM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: jacks gonnae kick ass in this finale as for kristin she's a skaters or sawyer fan so to hell with what she knows so she's probally over reacting about jack and the death thats coming or not hehe im drunk.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:18:00 PM
Malc51 said...: I think that the JUGHEAD will get placed behind the SWAN concrete wall, and it will become the FAILSAFE that Desmond turned under the station. The incident will happen, the leak will occur, but Miles' Dad will install the bomb as a 'just in case the crazy guy from Saving Private Ryan' is correct.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:36:00 PM
bastivy said...: SCOTTISH NO1- thanks! it feels good not to be totally alone on that one :-); Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:43:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: @Malc51:
If Jughead was the failsafe, it would have killed everybody when it detonated after Desmond turned the key.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:49:00 PM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: in the third picture it looks like jack was carrying someone who was bleeding; Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:53:00 PM
NiCoLaS said...: The finale will be just mind blowing... I KNOW IT; Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:53:00 PM
James said...: 100% definitely Desmond's voice shouting "This is it". Perhaps it's him returning to the island and spotting it from the clouds or the ocean etc or when his other self is about to turn the key.
I don't want the bomb to go off and end everything. I want to see the swan being built and Kelvin being recruited (how and why) and why the hatch door had quarantine printed on it, and what the actual button did; how did it actually 'save the world'...cos when the key was turned the world didn't end, what did the key turning do??. Also where that random pallet drop came from and why radinsky shot himself.

On to theories...?
Locke, when he said i;m gonna kill jacob, perhaps he meant "kill the concept of him" i.e. they will get to whereever he/she/it is and be like look everyone, there is no jacob, ok, so what you've been believing/following is tosh. If this is the case it will be pretty lame, cos for 5 seasons we've heard this "jacob wanted, wants it". Even the brain-washing in the hydra focused on jacob loves u. who was the Jesus looking guy in the rocking chair and who spoke to locke saying help me. so i reckon someone/thing does exist. Christian said he can speak for Jacob, so he knows who/what that name is all about...will we EVER EVER EVER actually learn who and WTF the others (rich, widmore, eliose etc) actually are????? They kept saying in season2 and 3 that they're not the enemy, they're the good guys???? Ben's killer line; "we're the good guys michael!"....
Also, season 4 ended with a box and a what's inside mystery.......looks like season 5 will too (with the silver box).....what could be in such a box, weapons, bio gas?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:56:00 PM
Lincoln said...: You mean Ilana and Bram's case? Everyone knows what's in that! It's fish tacos. Bram still owed Miles one from when he ruined the one he was eating when they kidnapped him. And since it's been 3 years, they brought extra because they felt bad :p; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:03:00 PM
James said...: oh and that structure sayiid is walking past is not the structure that was holding judhead, it's a dharma water tank holder. he's wearing a jumpsuit. so he's doing sth in dharmaville.

Kinda sad for the dharma folk. i wonder if we will see/learn why there is conflict between them and the others, and why the others are called hostiles. Surely they must have let the dharma arrive and build stuff and then something happened.

Also when was the purge. After the incident right? Dharma carried on building stations, e.g. the tempest, which I assume was used to gas everyone...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:06:00 PM
Lincoln said...: The purge happened in late 92 or early 93, according to what Horace said in 'Cabin Fever'.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:09:00 PM
Sunil Minnajeb said...: "That and I find John Locke absolutely frustrating (I'm probably alone on that), I'm not a fan."

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No you're not alone. I'm here right with you. I hated Locke before his death, and I hate him even more right now.

And Matt, I think that Locke is wrong. Ben can see (or at least he could, before) Jacob realy exist. And I think that Locke is now the devil. He work for the dark side. And I hope he will be well and good terminated soon. By, let's say, Ben? (Or Richard, it would be cool, too)

Enough of that loser. Go back in plonkers land John locke, or blaireaux land, but please, just f... off.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:33:00 PM
Lincoln said...: LOL. That's the hardest I've laughed since Richard made fun of Jack for suggesting they were gonna move the nuke through the pool.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:38:00 PM
gokhan said...: Thanx for the screencap that shows the other side of the wall that Richard tries to break, but the sc seems to be a storage room, nothing like to give a sense of a "Temple" (not the whole Temple, yeah, but any glimpse of Temple). I wonder where's there though.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:47:00 PM
Tman said...: Is Sayid rockin a Dharma jumpsuit?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:06:00 PM
Malc51 said...: @Jake Chambers:

But was JUGHEAD there to blow it up, or to dissipate the engergy? I think the jughead may well react differently to the build up, than if it were just to go BOOOOOM normally.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:30:00 PM
afishwithawish said...: Jules <3 Please don't die... Π_Π
Apart from that, I don't get much from the promo, as usual! haha!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:34:00 PM
katieb20022001 said...: I think what a lot of people are forgetting in their eagerness to vilify Jack for "wanting" to reset things is that this isn't necessarily something Jack "wants" to do, it is what he has come to believe he has been brought back to do. This man has been to hell and back because that island supposedly wants and needs him to do something and he believes he has finally figured out what and he's ready to sacrifice his relationship with Kate as well as his life (he's not going to survive the blast) to fulfill what he believes is the F*CKING DESTINY everyone has been cramming down his throat for the past 3+ years.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:38:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: Look, I don't know much about bombs, but I'm pretty sure whatever happens when it goes off, under any circumstances could it be safe for the people in its vicinity. And the radiation at least would be devastating. But obviously it wasn't.
I am pretty sure the bomb will be detonated before the end of S5.
And besides - we know why there was concrete under the Swan - Daniel told Chang to do that, didn't he? And it wouldn't be wise to have a bomb with a metal shell right at such a huge source of EM-energy. Remember how concerned Dan was in Jughead just because it was in the open, and not even in the near of any EM-field?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:39:00 PM
Lincoln said...: Yea. I don't think the nuke is buried near the Swan. But I don't think it went off either. Or Faraday would have known about it. The more I think about it, I'm starting to think that it'll get transported to 2008, along with Jack and everyone else that goes back to the present timeline.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:43:00 PM
Malc51 said...: Good points, Jake. You could be right about the bomb, not that I have read any spoilers, but everyone is going on about how the episode next week will have us all thinking about the direction of S6. As Mrs Hawking put it "Not even I know what is going to happen next", and she knows stuff!; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:46:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: Well in one recent podcast they said they've been influenced a lot by King's The Stand and Damon mumbled "Trashcan man"... I'm afraid that the bomb will go off at the end of the show... like in the book. That's what I'm REALLY afraid of...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:47:00 PM
Lincoln said...: At the end of the entire series, you mean? Nah. They've always said that their would be closure at the end, haven't they?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:57:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: They just said it wouldn't be like the Sopranos... or like a dream... But as far as I know (I didn't finish Stand), not everybody dies in the end... So, it could be like that, especially with Damon saying "Trashcan man", and the survivors would get their closure...
Let's hope it's not like that.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:00:00 PM
Lincoln said...: I never read the book. But I remember the TV adaptation of The Stand. And, you know? I can't remember how it ended, for the life of me. I might google it, just out of curiosity.

Something has to happen with that nuke, though. They wouldn't have introduced it if they weren't gonna use it. I can't imagine how anyone could survive the blast, though.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:06:00 PM
sawyerrules said...: Great Promo!
May I do a prediction for the season FINALE?

-Who's gonna die? Sayid.
-What's doing Richard in the promo? Destroying the Wheel. So the losties may jump to another time FOREVER next season.
-What's gonna say Kate to Jac?NO :); Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:22:00 PM
samus88 said...: WTF... James, you better stop looking a Kate. "I see the way you look at her"... Damn it.

Suliet better not end... it better not end.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:26:00 PM
aboriginal mice of paris said...: I agree with Vathian and everyone else about Locke being Jacob. I have a feeling that the actor we all think will be playing Jacob, is in fact Alvar Hanso. I'm speculating that we've been tricked and that's who man#1 and man#2 is - a young and older Hanso.

I have some other thoughts on why this would be a possibility. I think Hanso is the third party in the so-called, "upcoming war." And the Ajira folks are working for Hanso (DI). This is just theory that I really want to happen.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:39:00 PM
T.L.A. said...: Enough of that loser. Go back in plonkers land John locke, or blaireaux land, but please, just f... off.I heard a bowl of lemons describe that as 'bitter' ;); Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:43:00 PM
Ben said...: Didn't someone determine the picture of jacob in the rocking chair in cabin fever was a locke with longer hair. I believe locke is jacob or has to kill him to take his place as god or leader of the island. That would explain why or how he was resurrected from the dead. Richard and Ben have trapped jacob with the ring of ash thats why he wants Lockes help in Cabin fever when he whispers HELP ME. Maybe he has to die to be helped; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:46:00 PM
Lincoln said...: A lot of people theorized that that was Locke, but it's never been proven. People also theorized that it was Christian. Who knows?

But why does everyone assume that Jacob is trapped inside the circle of ash? I've never understood that. Especially considering we've seen the cabin appear in two other locations since then.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:51:00 PM
Simon Wilson said...: James
I don't see how you can be so sure that it is Desmond's voice shouting "this is it"?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:56:00 PM
oni-link1 said...: WOAH !

After watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H89WW5ivjq0 , I realized that the promo only includes scenes of 5x16 !

And it has been the same each year so far : there are no scenes of the last episode of the Season Finale !

Therefore, we still haven't seen any scene of the last episode of the season ^^.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:56:00 PM
sawyerrules said...: Don't you think that Horace is a misterious guy?
-he sent Kate to the submarine (IMAO he knows that Sawyer and Kate have to be together for a great reason), he was bleeding by his nose when he first met Locke (maybe jumping in time), he was defending Sawyer from Razynsky (why?),
I think Horace is Sawyer's father and maybe he is Jacob.

Out of the "serious" comments:I like Juliet but I'm pretty sure that is the end of her romance with Sawyer cause Freckles is back , I love this.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:59:00 PM
Gama said...: Wasn't Saywer fine when he got into the sub?

Why he looks all bloody and beaten up?

Did Jack gave him another beating?

Come on Jack you are a doctor for ****'s sake.You can't go around beating the crap out of people.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:02:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: @Ben: The "Help me" thing was in The Man behind the courtain, not in Cabin Fever.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:50:00 PM
rock said...: Horace never met Locke. Locke saw him in a dream. And his nose wasn't bleeding due to time travel, it was bleesing from the gas released during the purge.

As for Kate needing to be with Sawyer for a special reason, that's one part of the show that would be best left OUT.

I said it before and I'll say it again. If you want a soap opera, watch a soap opera. I'd like to see a fan made edit of Seasons 1-5 without the Love triangles, quadrangles etc.. It would be like the fan made edit of Star Wars episode 1 minus Jar-Jar.

19 episodes left people, scrap the love stories. Focus on actual content. We don't need the relationship's mysteries answered.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:04:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: rock, speak for yourself, because, believe it or not, many people think that love is actually an existential part of life.
Yeah, they don't need to over-do it on the show, but scrap it alltogether? Come on...; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:13:00 PM
daviddodukalo said...: i dont understand those who talk about a blast.
and people surviving that balst.
i dont know but is en A_bomb go's off, there all dead!!!,gone,futsch,disparu,weg!!!
i thing richard is going to turn the wheel.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:16:00 PM
rock said...: existential part of life yes, but after being overdone for 5 seasons, it would be no loss to scrap it altogether for the remaining 19 episodes.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:18:00 PM
rock said...: The screencap of the brick wall that looks like a storage room could be Ben's secret room.

I find it hard to believe that Richard Alpert and the Others could let Dharma build a village directly over the spot where they buried Jughead, which also happens to be directly over one of the entrances to their tunnels.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:22:00 PM
magniplaid said...: I don't even like sawyer, but he needs to step it up and become the old sawyer that just goes on a rampage offing people. I hope that he kills phil for slapping juliet.

Also, as a jack fan, it has been really difficult to watch him since season 3. All you want is for him to be the hero/good guy...and he just keeps dropping the ball. It's killing me.

As for Jacob...I agree with other threads...I think jacob is apart of Jack's lineage.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:29:00 PM
gokhan said...: sawyerrules said...

Great Promo!
May I do a prediction for the season FINALE?

-Who's gonna die? Sayid.
-What's doing Richard in the promo? Destroying the Wheel. So the losties may jump to another time FOREVER next season.
-What's gonna say Kate to Jac?NO :)-------------Wow, great predictions! :) Richard destroying the original wheel (which belongs to the Temple) would be a hell of a scene for me. :D And, same with you: Bye-bye Sayid! ;); Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:41:00 PM
infinitemkys said...: It is not the A bomb that goes off, but a drill bit into the anomally.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:44:00 PM
infinitemkys said...: So You think Kate Jack Sawyer and Juliet turn he wheel, then Richard destroys it?

Or they dsiapear into a flash with the anomally and then her destroys the wheel?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:45:00 PM
infinitemkys said...: Since I don't see Locke in the pictures I think Ben tries to kill him again?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:47:00 PM
faneitor said...: ¿Is that Jack trying to kill sawyer in dharmaville?
Sawyer is trying to stop Jack.
Jack has gone crazy.
If Kate says next week no to Jack i think she could get killed if she gets in her way.
His obsession will kill kate or juliett.

Jack is the bad guy. Or the island has manipulated him , like when rosseou was nearly killed by her people.
The island turns them all nuts.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:18:00 PM
stephen said...: NO! Jack is not trying to kill Sawyer.
NO! Jack is NOT the bad guy.
Jack has been told and told and told that being on that island is their destiny. That they are meant to be there for a greater purpose. Now he may be wrong in thinking he will erase history but rest assured what ever Jack does in the finale HE WILL get the losties out of 1977. And that will make this mission of his worth all the trouble even if one of the losties dies in the process. Because they HAVE to get out of 1977 somehow. They can't stay there. So even if his intentions are to erase history and blow everything up, he is going to change things for the survivors and it will probably be a GOOD thing.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:03:00 PM
PkmnTrainerJ said...: Anyone else hear that low Swan like hum at the end of the trailer?; Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:19:00 PM
Alpha said...: The more I think about it, the more it seems Locke might actually be the major death. Yeah, he's been killed before, but what if this time, it was permanent? The implications are certainly there. Richard feels uneasy about Locke, Ben flat out hates Locke, and I assume Jacob wouldn't be too thrilled about Locke trying to kill him and all. Maybe everything just implodes on John, and he gets wiped out. It would certainly be a shocker, and even though TPTB seem to be going for an "evil" role now, Locke's death would certainly be in the same manner as Charlie's. I mean, the guy has been with us from day 1.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:25:00 PM
Sunil Minnajeb said...: "Ben flat out hates Locke"

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Don't think that Ben hates Locke. I mean in TLADOJB he seemed realy sorry after having killed him. But now now, I think that Ben is terribly scared by that "new" Locke. And a little jealous, also ^^

But, ah, try to put yourself in his shoes: He was the only and one leader from, what 40 years. And then, all of suden that bald guy fall of the sky(literally!)and you know that he is about to take your place soon...

If I were Ben, I swear I would do anything to protect my position and all I have, all I am.

Especially if that "New leader" is an self proclamed one.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:44:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: Sunil, what are you talking about?
Ben has NOT been leader for over 40 years, and Locke is NOT a self-proclaimed leader.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:47:00 PM
sawyerrules said...: Thanks Gockan:)
And for Rock: I thanks the writers cause they ignore people as you who hates love stories, they are intelligent enough to give us a dynamic show with mysteries,adventures,deep characters and love, this all is what a GREAT SHOW needs and, of course a team of very very good people TO MAKE IT.

I hate "Greys's anatomy" cause it's what I think is a soap opera but "LOST" is different, is GREAT in all sense but the love story in Lost I think is important than you think, IMO the love story is a MAIN argument, we just have to wait. I have been writing here for years and I never said anyone what to write about. It's just question of respect.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:04:00 PM
Sunil Minnajeb said...: "Ben has NOT been leader for over 40 years"

Ok, my mistake on this one. It's late here.

But:

Yes, locke is a self-proclamed leader, sorry. That him who said to Richard to go back in time, in his past to see him when he was a child, remember?

It's him who provoked that whole thing about being the new chosen one, the new leader. Don't you see it? And I'm not the only one to say so. Honestly.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:05:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: Well, we still don't know WHEN that loop started - because, Locke only told him that because he was told that he is the chosen one.
And we don't even know if that IS a loop - because WHH hasn't been confirmed yet. And Richard wasn't satisfied with little Locke, either. And I don't think it's just enough to proclaim yourself as the leader of the Others for the Others to just accept you. They're not THAT dumb. There must be more to the story.
We'll have to wait and see.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:41:00 PM
Jake Chambers said...: And I just remembered - John didn't tell Richard to go and visit him as a kid to prove that he is the Leader of the Others, but to prove that he comes from the future.; Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:54:00 PM
Farfalla said...: I don't understand why some people lose perspective with their fanatism. Come on! this is not a war between Sawyer and Jack, in fact I think that they don't hate each other. Jack is not going to kill Sawyer and Sawyer is not going to kill Jack!!there are at least twenty people to kill before start killing between them!be coherent pleaseeeeeeeeee!!; Friday, May 08, 2009 1:40:00 AM
shoegirl927 said...: I am so excited for this three hour event that I can hardly stand it! I for one am so confused about the incident it is driving me crazy!!! I for one just want Jack to see Locke. Jack will probably think that he HAS changed fate cuz Locke is alive only to realize he has been resurrected!!! And I would also like to see Jack talk to his daddy on the island like we have seen Locke do. This is our last cliffhanger people so I guess we had better enjoy it!!!; Friday, May 08, 2009 1:44:00 AM
Alpha said...: @Sunil Minnajeb

You pretty much listed exactly why Ben hates Locke, lol. Ben hated him so much that he actually killed him. Whether that was something Ben had to do or not is still unknown, but all implications point to Ben not expecting Locke to be alive again, so it seems like Ben really was killing Locke out of hatred/fear of losing his role as the leader. Couple that with the "new" Locke, and his apparent goal to kill Jacob...I'd say Ben definitely has some hate for Locke.; Friday, May 08, 2009 2:00:00 AM
fusonjon said...: Sayid is carrying something important in that scene with him in the dharma suit. The tower behind him is not the jughead tower (the tower in the promo is painted white) and there seems to be vegetation behind it meaning that this shot takes place inside Dharmaville.

I know a bunch more (I think) but don't want to say anything. I hope I haven't said too much.

I hope Desmond shows up in the finale. Also I would like to see Vincent, Rose, and Bernard too. And I hope that the Lostees succeed in their mission.; Friday, May 08, 2009 3:23:00 AM
blighty said...: Much as I'm concerned Sawyer will die in the finale mainly because he's my favourite character, I do think that Desmond may turn up in some form or another and then die because of his current situation in the real world.

And fusonjon don't know what you think you've revealed. Plus the Lostees don't have one mission currently there is a Jack and Sayid mission to follow Daniel's plan and there is a Kate and Sawyer mission to stop them. And there's a Locke mission to do something to Jacob. So which one are you talking about? All of them can't succeed.; Friday, May 08, 2009 8:51:00 AM
LockeRules23 said...: I really HATE the new Locke,its just STUPID how they changed him from being a good guy to a EVIL villain,it just sucks,and I hate what they did to Sawyer,HE WOULDNT JUST ABANDON JIN AND ALL THE OTHERS JUST SO HE COULD BE "FREE"!!!!!!!and "Good riddance"?WTF Im telling you ,"Follow the leader" episode changed lost forever............ BUT I HOPE season final will be good,or else........ Its gonna ruin my whole LOST-filled-Life . and I have to wait till its next season..so they can try to FIX lost,FIX LOST PLEASEEEEEEEE
DONT LET LOCKE GO EVIL....DONT MAKE JACK INTO "HERO" AGAIN,DONT DO THIS TO SAWYER,I WANT SEASON 1 CHARACTERS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!; Friday, May 08, 2009 9:00:00 AM
scottish no1 lost fan said...: locke is evil him saying he's not gonna help the losties just proves that, when jack uses the h bomb i think the energy at the swan will take the full force of it and the island and everyone will be ok except the incident will happen and i think the incident is the one thing that could kill everyone on that island, in the end through i think jack will get our losties back to the original time but at a cost and i thnik that cost will be juliet but who cares she was never a lostie anyway.; Friday, May 08, 2009 1:19:00 PM
skyhan said...: And now what? We gotta wait for 2010 for the season 6 and the Finale ?; Friday, May 08, 2009 2:03:00 PM
faneitor said...: Ok so
Jack is bad now when he was a good man off the island.
Locke is bad now when he had a miserable life off the island.
Richard is good because he saved Ben. Maybe it turns around and he is bad next week.
Sawyer is good when he was an asshole off the island.
Kate is stupid because she thinks there is no destiny, and what about all the weired things she has been through?
¡Perhaps Ben will be the good guy now!
and hurley will turn in to darthvader.
The show is gone to twisty. I think they should finish show next week.; Friday, May 08, 2009 2:40:00 PM
Joana said...: I saw a clip last night much of the same except Jacks says: I had her and I lost her.... FYI; Friday, May 08, 2009 2:46:00 PM
flexible said...: Blighty, relax. At the end of La Fleur, Kate showed up. As soporific Suliet get on the sub, Kate shows up. LOL. It's priceless and great at the same time. Have you not seen the promo with Jules worrying about Sawyer looking at Kate? A hydrogen bomb is about to go off and kill them all or dramatically change their lives, and she is worried about Sawyer looking at Kate? LOL. I said Juliet is triangle fodder. She has had no purpose since season 4 and she had such potential. Yet Katehaters are so blinded by their unreasonable hatred of Kate they were running around blaming her for everything and accusing her of having no purpose when the girl has ALWAYS had a purpose. Some people just did not like this purpose. Here she is now trying to get Jack to stop this madness and what's Juliet doing? Hoping to jet off into the 70s with Sawyer and then when that does not work, becoming all weepy cos Sawyer looked at Kate?! LOL. Her connection with Ben. Her knowledge of the OTHERS. Her sister off Island. So much potential fror the kick ass Juliet of season 3 but she was dumped as an obstacle for Skate and because some hate Kate so much they failed to see that the worst female character on the show is actually Juliet. First it was Jack, then she bowed out gracefully. Now, it's Sawyer and if she does not leave by herself, the Island will clear her off because she is not Sawyers destiny. Never was. Never will be. I hope she does not die...but whatever happens to her, it will always be Sawyer and Kate. Just keep watching, Blighty. Season 6 is SKATE and it will be definitive. I think the writers have given us more than enough hints to imply that. They are just ramping up the Suliet schmoopyness so that when it dissolves, fans will be distraught. At least those fans that bought the contrived plot device. I have been watching Lost too long to be fooled by their sheenanighans. It just amuses now.

I hope Locke has not turned evil. Though it would not surprise me. Every character on Lost is evil in one way or the other. I have no idea how they escaped the sub. Maybe Sawyer did have a plan afterall because very unlike him not to. Jim La Fleur has no cojones so he might have no plan and choose the easy and safe way out just like he is clinging by his fingernails to the safety of Juliet, but the real Sawyer is waking up, "I want my lawyer" and the real Sawyer always has ideas. I am sure Kate will do her flexible thing and get out of the cuffs, or maybe Horace will free them because I found it suspicious that he put Kate on the sub and we know Horace and Jim have some kind of brotherhood relationship.; Friday, May 08, 2009 4:19:00 PM
flexible said...: @Joana. Yeah I saw that. Yeah, Jate has had its chance. Jack knows it. He's always known that Kate loves Sawyer in a way she can't love him even if she does love Jack as well. Jack has been noble in this triangle. He helped them escape. He made Sawyer look good to Kate after Sawyer had yelled at her. He was willing to turn the copter round to pick Sawyer when he saw how distraught Kate was after sawyer had jumped but the Island disappeared. The only time he lost his rag was in SNBH but he was intoxicated then and understandably upset that even after all this time Kate was clinging on to something "Sawyer", in this case the PROMISE. So, I won't be surprised if this chat is heading to Jack telling Sawyer that Kate loves him because Sawyer may have thought it at times but he has never actually been sure and Kate is not the kinda chic that makes anybody certain of her feelings because half the time she refuses to acknowledge them herself. Damon said in a recent interview that there are some mythology questions that will not be answered. He can't understand questions like "What is the Island". LOL. Neither can I Damon. Just some fanboys getting carried away. Damon said, he and Carlton have always believed that they were writing about the CHARACTERS on the Island(they could have fooled me) and how THEY changed the Island and what their fate is, and that is what season 6 will be about. Character-centric. So all the myth fan geeks who chastise those of us who enjoy the relationships whether it be bromance a la Surley or romance a la Skate, prepare yourselves, because there will be lots more ahead. Maybe Lost can recover all the millions of viewers it has lost when they decided to go all hardcore myth. Fanboys have had their fun. 2010, those of us interested in human beings rather than what the Island is, will have the better balance of it and we can not wait.; Friday, May 08, 2009 4:36:00 PM
speedhoon said...: HIDDEN PLACE in promo.
http://w7.ivyro.net/~catmeow/temp/hidden.jpg; Friday, May 08, 2009 5:12:00 PM
blighty said...: Does anyone think that the reason Sawyer is being so steadfast to Juliet is because she's pregnant and that Kate's pregnancy is a red herring. It would fit with why he's blanked Kate at every turn and why he's so protective of Juliet. He wouldn't want to let another woman down like he did Cassidy and he probably would realize he should have been more sensitive with Kate when she thought she was pregnant. Maybe that's why we haven't been handed Sawyer and Kate on a plate.

I mean she looked all coy when Amy asked her about when she and Jim were having a little-un.

If things get reversed then presumably none of that exists any more?

It would explain a lot and show that Sawyer has grown in the last few years.

Just a thought.; Friday, May 08, 2009 5:54:00 PM
blighty said...: Sorry flexible missed your stuff, don't worry I'm always pessimistic. I can't wait for this series to end it's a much more peaceful life when Lost has closed for the season. I've been so disappointed in Sawyer and Juliet, it had such potential and has been so limpid and lifeless. Same as Jack and Kate really.

Just get Sawyer and Kate back together with some rocking good passion and emotion, make Sawyer sarcastic and flirty but good hearted. Drop the Jack, Kate and Juliet and Sawyer thing as a bad, bad idea and get the losties united on a mission to save the world.

Jack, Kate and Sawyer against the evil Voldemort, whoops slipped up there. The trouble is how many Voldemort's are there in Lost?; Friday, May 08, 2009 6:05:00 PM
Joana said...: @flexible...

I agree. Jack knows. I am just disappointed on how they are making Juliet sound weak and jealous. She is much stronger than that.; Friday, May 08, 2009 8:52:00 PM
Jennifer Locke said...: I think Jack detonating that bomb is going to BE the fabled incident and the radiation mixed in with the special energy on the island is what is going to prevent the pregnant women from giving birth. I don't think the bomb is going to explode like we expect it to- since the island is different/special, the bomb's reaction will be different/special...

So I think right as Jack & co 'detonate' the bomb, Locke/Jacob/whatever is going to bring them back to present Island time (where Sun is) - nothing will be changed for THEM or for the island, but we'll know it was our Losties that have caused all this mayhem on the island all along. They always went back in time and the incident was always their fault. Whatever happens, happens- so whatever the bomb does, isn't going to wipe out the Dharma initiative or change things enough to effect our present day as we've seen Ben's flashbacks to killing his dad/his people. Damon already said there won't be different futures. Time is fixed and continous.

Also, I don't think Locke intends to kill Jacob as in MURDER, I think 'killing' him is setting Jacob free (be that good or bad- perhaps he was trapped for a good reason). I think the circle of Volcanic Ash around his cabin is trapping him in there, he's asked Locke for help- Locke is different now. Locke has the answers, I don't think Locke is going to make the same trivial mistakes as before.; Friday, May 08, 2009 10:08:00 PM
Tia Rose said...: Sawyer better stay with Juliet!; Saturday, May 09, 2009 5:23:00 PM
Defiant15E said...: I wonder if any one realizes that the thing in Sayid's backpack IS THE BOMB ITSELF!
He extracts the pit out of Jughead, and creates a backpack nuke(yes it is possible). He is going to plant it, but I have a feeling that Jack is somehow convinced it maybe unwise or even wrong to use said device by whomever, and now is trying to stop Sayid from detonating it. Sayid is clearly by the water tower in DHARMAville in that screen cap, Jack is shooting into DHARMAville, maybe to stop Sayid? Or, maybe to stop DHARMA security from aprehending Sayid which would negate my previous theory. Anyways, I think Sayid is the one who get's it. He's been a jerk all season.; Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:37:00 PM
XxMayhemxX said...: Dark.. whats that first picture of? Jacob or what? it looks ghostly to me and i cant tell...; Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:22:00 AM
Tyler said...: The second picture i found in the newest promo at the same time as the first pic in the original promo....they are clearly the same room....but way different.; Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:00:00 AM

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