Initial thank yous, then showed a recap video of Lost.
1) D&C confirmed that Stranger In A Strange Land was the turning point for the studio, and they were allowed to establish an end date.
2) Jack’s beard is bad.
3) 16 episodes next year, but 18 hours of Lost. Jack Bender confirmed a two hour season premiere, and a two hour finale.
4) After Lost, they will go in to hiding for a while, due to the inevitably interpretive quality to the series ending.
Damon: You are married to your destiny, you can try to avoid it, but it will catch up to you. This is why Charlie shut the door in the Looking Glass station, because he embraced his death.
Sometimes they get pointers from the studio, telling them stuff is too outlandish. Originally, in the season four premiere, Hurley was going to come across himself in Jacob’s cabin, but the network urged them to change the scene to Christian Shepherd, afraid it would set a precedent of weirdness. With season six, there won’t be any of that
Questions:Q: What was your favorite scene to watch or write?
CC: The scoring session we attended for the raft’s launch at the end of Exodus . These musicians were playing this incredible music without having rehearsed it, and the moment was so beautiful, there were tears in the control booth. That was just one of those great moments where you felt this blessed synergy of all these talented collaborators all come together and make Lost what it is.
JB: I love all of them
DL: I have many...but for me, during season one, when we first started writing the show coming out of the pilot, when it first started revealing itself, was really cool. I’m drawn to scenes that take place with just two characters and somehow they’re talking about very very heady things and I’m a huge fan of whenever Jack and Locke talk to each other. We’ve been very judicious in having those guys talk to each other, it happens very rarely. I go back back to White Rabbit and that 6 or 7 minute long scene where they’re just sitting in the jungle and Jack says he’s following the impossible and Locke says what if it’s not impossible and we were all put here for a reason, and that scene is the genesis for those guys’ relationship and if you think about how that was the 3rd episode shot out of the pilot, here we are now, 100 episodes later, and now Jack is finally saying ‘Y’know, Locke might be onto something’
CC: Jack’s kinda slow.
DL: It had to permeate through his beard
Q: My wife is fascinated with the artistry of delivering this idea into a script. We had, in a video podcast last year, a glimpse into the writers’ room and she’s fascinated that you get the idea and put it into a script
CC: We have a call centre in Delhi. We just ask them ‘we need a flashforward this week’
DL: We have a minicamp before we write, where we just discuss the season with the writers, the character arcs and we decide on the season’s final image so we know exactly our beginning and where we’re trying to get to. Once we start writing the show on a week-to-week episode basis it gets a bit more intense
CC: We spend a lot of time breaking each aspect of the story and once we have the story worked out from beginning to end, we’ll put it up on whiteboard and then pitch it back to ourselves, and we’ll have scenes in different colours, withan on island story, an off island story, and a C-story, split it into six acts for the commercial breaks and structure it so you’ll wanna come back after each act. Then we’ll give it to some writers to rewrite and send back, and we’ll give our notes, make some changes
Q: Jack was originally a protagonist for the show, but he seems to have gotten more antagonistic as it goes on. Was this intentional?
JB: Matthew Fox loved the idea of wearing the not so flattering jumpsuits and his character beginning to let go of his heroic side, which people accuse me of, taking Jack Shepherd’s character.
DL: Basically Jack spent a hundred hours majorly rejecting it, there was no purpose whatsoever to the island and now he’s come back in the 70s and he’s still waiting to be told ‘Here’s what you’re supposed to do’ and then when he is told what to do, he then gets to decide what he is going to do, so basically it’s contingent on what he feels his mission is.
Q: Can we get more Lost screening where you project episodes in a cinema like this?
CC: I think so. It’s a good idea and it may happen in some form or other
Q: On the official website, there was a video of behind the scenes and you went into your offices and you had a wall of whose dead and whose alive, I want to know about Claire being on the wall of dead
[shocked gasps from audience]
DL: Are you absolutely sure
Q: I am
DL: [explains wall of alive, dead, undead] Well, uh, if you say you saw her there, I don’t know what to tell you.
JB: I think her agent slipped it in there
DL: She is going to be back on the show.
CC: Eventually all of them will be on the wall of the dead.
Q: My question is about the fate of Lost, because I know it ends with season 6, but do you think because of Bryan Fuller with Pushing Daisies continuing it in a comic book, and I love Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk (Damon’s comic) and with Lost it has a disjointed timeline and it comes together in the end, do you think that you’ll do any spin offs in a comic book form?
DL: We feel that if we hold anything back for the final season of the show, it will be bad. People have come along this far, and they need a conclusion.
Q: You make a lot about the characters searching for their destiny and their purpose, do you feel that you yourselves had a purpose in your own lives being involved in the show, or you’ve learned something about life from doing it?
CC: I think as writers we use the show to explore personal issues, spiritual or otherwise. We’re mainly concerned by how much faith and how much control do you have over your own destiny, something which is very fascinating to us, and obviously season 5 was an exploration of that with the time travel leading to an event at the end of the season, so that is going to be something we’re going to explore a lot on the final season of the show. The writers room is diverse and that diversity gets worked out in the characters.
Q: What’s Brian K. Vaughan like?
DL: Unfortunately he has left for greener pastures. When he first came on the show Jorge Garcia was ecstatic because he’s a huge fan of his work.
Q: Where are exactly are you with season 6?
CC: We are here, and the following Monday we’ll start writing.
JB: Shooting starts August 24th
CC: We’ll work continuously until the middle of April and the show will air sometime between January and February and will finish around May.
Q: I want to know about the end of Lost. Michael Emerson said in an interview this week that he suspects it will be quite bittersweet or melancholy. Is it going to be an upbeat ending or ambiguous? Just any kind of hint to the flavour of the ending.
DL: All of the above. We are aspiring for an ending that is fair. Bittersweet comes with the territory. The ending will be different as for once, we won’t leave you on a cliffhanger. You will stay on the cliff this time.
CC: We hope that if we like it, you will like it.
Q: I was sad Charlie died, but he had to die to give his story credibility. That makes me wonder about John Locke. The fact he is now dead, having hit his lowest ebb...what’s up with that character arc?
CC: We’re not prepared to answer any of those questions here tonight. We feel that the final part of the experience of Lost is that you have this time between to theorise, postulate, agonise.
JB: If the actors really need to know what’s coming ahead, they’ll ask. As an example, Josh Holloway did not know what he was whispering to Kate when he jumped out of the helicopter, and neither did Evangeline Lilly, but the actors sold it so well. Terry O’ Quinn was playing Locke with this dark mysterious quality, unintentionally playing into the ending which he didn’t know. I presented him with the script asking him he wanted to read it and he was sure. He came back after saying ‘I wish I hadn’t read it’
Q: How much do you know about each character’s story, are there any you’re particularly proud of, or not proud of?
DL: When you come up with an idea for a character, and they come into the show, like Eko, who was originally a priest who had a crisis of faith, and we found Adewale in New York, and we basically said we don’t buy that this guy is a priest who has lost his faith, we buy that this guy is a warlord impersonating a priest, and somewhere along the way he’d decide he wasn’t just impersonating a priest, he’d decide to be one. So we’re certainly proud of the way that one worked out, and as for the ones we’re not proud of, we bury alive...or have Michael shoot them.
Q: How do you come up with these amazing twists
CC: A lot of getting yourself to a point where you cry. We have a really brilliant writing staff and that’s part of the DNA of the show now, and that’s a big part of the writer’s room, how we re-route things one way and flip it back another. We love introducing a character in a certain way and then reveal the character to be very different. You know originally Sawyer tested the second lowest after the pilot, and now of course he’s a very heroic version of that character.
Q: Keep the Smoke!
DL: You’ll be seeing the smoke in a probably interesting character in itself
JB: And it will be in the shape of Jack’s beard
Q: Season 5 was hard work watching, with time travel. How are you going to pay that off
DL: We acknowledge with a degree of difficulty. We were ostensibly frightened at first with the time travel story, were basically desperate to get everybody back together again. Time travel is now complete and everybody gets back together in one form or another and we feel that season 6 is a lot like season 1 with its community.
Q&A ended here. The guys signed stuff for the fans. My friend had a copy of Half Blood Prince, Damon signed it saying ‘Locke is VERY similar to Snape!’
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"DL: You’ll be seeing the smoke in a probably interesting character in itself"
seems like confirmation that smokey = titus welliver's character
Hmm. Locke is very like Snape.
Perhaps he is just acting evil/acting like the anti-Jacob to get in with the bad side and help with its final destruction. That doesn't really make sense but I feel like that is gonna be a really interesting clue.
I was there! My girlfriend and I just rocked up on the off-chance that there were any unclaimed tickets. Damon and Carlton were standing right there in the lobby as we walked in. Sure enough, some tickets were available, and they let us in! They even seemed kind of grateful to us for turning up, in fact.
The event was great, although Darlton gave absolutely nothing away, and a lot of their responses were – dare I say it – over-familiar (Carlton's Christmas-present analogy, for instance). The only surprise – as far as I could tell – came when a questioner asked them to confirm that Claire is dead, given that (she said) Claire's picture can be seen on the "Dead" wall in the video of the writers' room they put out in the run-up to season five. Damon seemed genuinely thrown, and joked that the questioner had just got someone fired (a familiar Damon gag). They also said something about seeing more of the smoke monster in season six, and about how it may prove to be a character in its own right – something like that, anyway.
Some of the audience’s questions were pretty weak, although I must admit that I was so stunned just to be there that I couldn’t call to mind any of the thousands of questions I’ve fantasized about asking Darlton over the years. I wanted to ask them what stage they were at with the writing of season six, but Andrew Collins, the host, beat me to it. FYI, they start writing at the end of July (although the “architecture” of the season is already in place, after the writers’ “mini-camp”) and shooting starts on 24th August.
I don’t want to sound like I’m complaining – this was (probably) a once-in-a-lifetime experience for a Lost fan living in London, and, given that I hadn’t booked and my hopes of being allowed in were not high, I got a pretty good deal. I even got to meet Darlton and Jack Bender and have my picture taken with them. I shook hands with Carlton but was so star-struck my girlfriend (who’s never even seen Lost) had to do all the talking. How embarrassing.
One thing I really appreciated was that both Damon and Carlton used the word "series" instead of "season" during the interview – it was a nice concession to their British audience (although I doubt if anyone present would have been confused if they'd stuck to US TV terminology).
The moral of the story? If you don’t ask, you don’t get.
Crow: Thanks for the details!! These events are so fun and don't worry I feel the same way when I go to Comic Con and just wonder about alllll the questions you want to ask...... :)
That guy was wrong about Claire being on the wall of dead. It was just the opposite. She was on the wall of living.
Like Snape.....I had to look up who that was. I sure hope not. Adults read that tripe. I tried reading the first book but realized it was for children, retard children.
(My first paragraph was ambiguous. When i say "they let us in", I don't mean that Damon and Carlton personally agreed to let us see the show. I just meant that they happened to be in the lobby – I think there were waiting to be led into the auditorium – when we came in and had a conversation with one of the organizers about getting some unclaimed tickets. Thought I should clarify.)
Whoever asked that question about Claire being on the "Dead" wall category, is an idiot. She was on the "Alive" or "Living" wall, whichever it was called. So that question is moot, and Damon's reaction to it was because the questioner was completely wrong!!
I like this snape thing, u reckon locke was allways in the know jacob was gonna die and played out the man in blacks plan knowing jacob was allready in on it.
All of these "Season 6 will be a lot like Season 1" comments and it being about "the community being the same" leads me to believe that they may all end up together, somewhere or some time other than the island (somewhere completely unexpected but also completely appropriate), and have to get to know each other all over again, but with some other senses that they've already done this before.
This actually kind of sounds like that show Flashforward. This may be a stretch, but perhaps some sort of timeline was reset in the real world, and our Losties all wake up one day, together or in different places before the plane ever left Sydney, with glimpses of what's to come in their head or their dreams. They still end up getting on the plane, and the plane still crashes. When they arrive, they realize what they've done, and everything they've already experienced on the island, and they decide to stay, realizing that this is and was their destiny--as a result of Desmond not pushing the button. It was his destiny to NOT push that button, which then had an effect no the destinies of our Losties.
God, what a stretch. But I'm especially interested to see where S6E1 is going to look like. They're not going to wake up at the bomb site. Juliet will not be dead, and I imagine they're not going to go back to when they plane first crashed to re-live everything. They won't be in the 70s either. So what are our options? Sitting on the plane, someone has a vision of it crashing, "Final Destination" style? Or they all wake up in a hospital, believing they survived the blast but then realizing that 815 hasn't even taken off yet...?
Has anyone listened to the audio yet? Is it worth listening to? Or does the summary pretty much give you the gist of it?
"Originally, in the season four premiere, Hurley was going to come across himself in Jacob’s cabin, but the network urged them to change the scene to Christian Shepherd, afraid it would set a precedent of weirdness. With season six, there won’t be any of that"
OK. I'm gonna have to side with the network on this one! lol. I know there's still MUCH to learn about Jacob, MIB, Christian, Locke, the monster, the cabin, etc. But Hurley seeing himself in the cabin? I just can't wrap my brain around that one!
Then again, who knows if they're telling the truth, or not. You can never really tell for sure. I think they say things a lot of the time just to drive us crazy and ramp up speculation. Not to mention, sometimes it's hard to distinguish between when they're being serious, and when they're being facetious. They should be forced to do separate podcasts every week, where in one, they're allowed to joke around. And in the other they have to be serious as a heart attack. lol
I'm not calling them liars, though. So please don't take that the wrong way. I daresay I probably understand and sympathize with their situation, more than most. If you think about it, they're trying to keep up an impossible balancing act.
They have to keep the network happy. They have to keep the hardcore fans happy. They have to keep the casual fans happy. They have to keep their actors and actresses happy, so that they'll stick around long enough to finish out their character's story. They have to hope that the people whose character's they killed off will be available and willing to return, if needed. And they have to hope that none of their actors or actresses have something happen in their personal lives, that prevents them from doing the show anymore.
And on top of all that, their hands are probably completely tied, as far as what they can or can't say about certain people's situations. Not to mention, trying to figure out what they should or shouldn't say, involving the story, out of fear of something slipping up and giving away too much information.
That's a hell of a lot to handle on top of their duties as writers, producers, editors, etc. They don't get nearly enough credit!
I'm sure if Hurry was going to see himself in the cabin it would have been a time traveling Hurley. Perhaps Hurley wasn't going to be an Oceanic 6 member and he would have suffered the time jumps with Sawyer.
@i534n,
I'd bet $10,000 dollars right now, that what Jack and Juliet did at that Swan site was what had always happened, and that there won't be any kind of "reset", "alternate reality", or "do over" going on during season 6.
Not only would it completely rob the story of the stakes that have been raised over the course of 103 hours of story-telling. But there's no way they'd ever be able to get every important actor back on the show that they would need, in order to do that. Walt's too old. Juliet is a series regular on V, now. As far as I know, Eko and Libby aren't interested in coming back. There's a strong rumor that Charlie will be a regular on Flash Forward. And who knows if Boone, Shannon, Ana-Lucia, and Michael will be available.
That's not to mention the fact that we've got this great storyline going on with Jacob, "MIB", Ben, Richard, Sun, Lapidus, Ilana, Bram, and Locke's dead body. There's no way that they're gonna just abandon that story. There are too many mysteries that still need answering, and if they 'went back to the drawing board', in any way, shape, or form, there's no way they'd still have time to get back to all of that, and still wrap it all up within 18 hours.
I still have no idea what to expect out of the season opener. But I've got a good hunch that these things are strong possibilities; Juliet will be dead; The bomb and the electromagnetism will actually neutralize one other, instead of having the catastrophic effect that either one would have had, by itself. And this will allow DHARMA just enough time to pour concrete over everything, in order to contain it.
These are all just wild guesses, but I'd say that each one of these scenarios is much more likely than any kind of "do over"; The first scene of the season could be of Jack dreaming that his plan had worked. But then we realize just before we see the 'Lost' logo that it's not real, and Locke, or Eloise, or someone else will take him on an Uncle Scrooge type journey, showing him the catastrophic events he might have caused, had he actually been successful in changing history; As for where they'll actually wake up after the bomb went off, I'm guessing either right there at the Swan site, leaving them to have to figure out everything all over again. And perhaps enlist Dr. Chang to help them get back to their proper place in time (maybe Jack will even be the one to amputate Dr.Chang's hand); Or maybe they'll wake up in the camp of the 'Others'. Or possibly even in the temple. And we'll find out that the Others saved them from DHARMA, because they were all lying unconscious and helpless at the Swan site; Or maybe they'll actually all be zapped to 2007/2008 like everyone else is predicting. Minus Juliet.
Whatever we think we see, though, during the first episode (maybe even during the first few episodes), I definitely think that there will be a twist on it and it won't be what it appears to be, at first :)
"Like Snape.....I had to look up who that was. I sure hope not. Adults read that tripe. I tried reading the first book but realized it was for children, retard children."
There has never been a comment that is so wrong.
everything about harry potter is great!
....except the writing...; the ethos is a little iffy too.
..but the PofA film even managed, in a matter of seconds, to make whh-time-travel comprehensible to ungenius children.
the snape ref probably means that locke (did he 'do quotes' around 'locke' by the way??? ) as MIB is, contrary to pop-belief, on the good side; and jacob the evil-twin child-sacrificing carthaginian fire-demon that pellegrino type-casts as!
I'm confused by all comments about Locke these days. Are they talking about Locke or the person who looks like Locke but isn't really Locke any longer?
How is Juliet being dead a spoiler? Wasn't that completely obvious? I think they were happy to see some Juliet fans clinging to some hope that she was alive, and Damon & Carlton are using that to generate some conversation during this long wait. But there aren't any scenarios I can see where her being alive makes any sense or adds to the story. It does feel like grasping at straws, without regard to story. Like this:
Juliet will not be dead, and I imagine they're not going to go back to when they plane first crashed to re-live everything. They won't be in the 70s either. So what are our options? Sitting on the plane, someone has a vision of it crashing, "Final Destination" style? Or they all wake up in a hospital, believing they survived the blast but then realizing that 815 hasn't even taken off yet...?
Juliet is irrelevant and wouldn't exist in either of those scenarios. So why would she need to be alive? Dead is dead on Lost. That's always been true and I'd hate for them to reset something that basic this far down the road.
@i524n and @McMurphy:
I had a similar idea about the jumping back in time, except with a couple of changes, so the stakes aren't lost..
The timeline resets to the day Desmond didn't push the button for everyone on Earth. EVERYONE. Wherever everyone was just before Desmond didn't press the button, they're there again. So Desmond's in the hatch, Widmore's in London, the 815ers are on the plane, Ben is in DHARMAville, Miles is in USA just being a ghostbuster, Bram and Ilana are just doing whatever they did, etc.
Except everyone who's ever been on the island before knows they've already been at this point and knows everything that came after. So Miles is like "WTF? I arrived on the island, went back in time, was in DHARMA for three years, and now I'm back 2-3 months before I even knew about the island?!". Jack is like "FFS! Back on the plane?!" - ie: their memories aren't simply wiped out.
Everyone else on earth doesn't remember time resetting. They just carry on doing whatever they were doing, none the wiser. So that's people like Jack's mother, Claire's mother, etc.
Pretty much every major character has been on the island before, except one: Penny. So she doesn't remember Desmond being back with her. She doesn't remember having a son with him. And this time, Desmond hasn't done what he did in 'The Constant', so she's happy being single, nearly forgotten about the boyfriend she had three years ago. So that preserves HIC's awesome tragic acting. Plus it allows for everyone else off-island (Widmore, Hawking, Miles, Frank, etc) to be all confused over why she's acting that way until they realise she never went to the island in the first place. So their mission is to take her there so she regains her memories of the past couple of years and fall in love with Desmond again - awesome ep if that happens, comparable to 'The Constant' itself for an 'awwww' moment.
So 815 crashes on the island again. And Bram and Ilana remember everything and know they should be on the island, so they find a way to get there quick (ie: find the next 'window' as Hawking did with the O6, and as they presumably did before, we just didn't see THEM do it before, but they definitely knew how to get there). So does Miles, except he has no idea how to find the window, so he finds alive-2004 Faraday who tells him about his mother while walking out of the door, except BAM!
TWIST!
Faraday is killed by a car ploughing into him as he and Miles crosses the street.
*cut to the island*
Jack and Kate find Boone lying dead on the beach, having died in the plane crash. Then they find Michael..and Shannon...and everyone that died on the island..and Locke's corpse! They all died in the 815 crash this time around. Course correction, bitch!
Everyone that has died up until this point die very soon after time is reset, to preserve the course of time.
Miles works this out and quickly finds Frank and Hawking, who this time makes the trip to the island with them.
Ben stumbles out of the jungle onto the beach, saying all of the other Others died in a massive explosion due to a faulty gas leak he didn't repair over three years ago..and why are they back in time?
L O S T (white on black, duh)
*first episode ends*
Basically, every character that died is still dead via course correction (so no need to get back all the old actors), every character that was in the show is still in it, still involves time resetting, is still mostly set on the island, and keeps the 'shadow of the statue' team/Miles in the game despite keeping Charlotte/Faraday/Caesar dead. Pretty clean and simple to me.
Fair enough, there's a lot of mysteries abound, but everyone who was on the island is back on the island by the end of the first episode of the season, so it can just carry on from there.
Plus it keeps the mystery of Juliet going (while allowing for contracts to be worked out IRL), because they can then say she either died in the gas leak, or that she ran out of her house into the jungle crying about the Sawyer/Kate thing just before the explosion, allowing her to reappear later in the season.
Claire would be found, also, still pregnant with Aaron, at some point during the season. Bernard is the only one alive at the beach camp, so the second ep would be a trek to go rescue him before the 'Shadow people' find him first.
Ben will realise, from Locke's corpse being present, the whole deal with him not being resurrected but simply used as a vessel. At some point during the second episode, Locke's body will disappear and when they find Richard, he tells them that it probably wasn't best to let him out of their sight ;-)
I know it sounds arrogant, but I think that'd be a much better ep than what's really gonna happen, if you take continuity AND the cast/contracts/logistics into consideration.
"Like Snape.....I had to look up who that was. I sure hope not. Adults read that tripe. I tried reading the first book but realized it was for children, retard children."
What a retarded, classless comment.
"Then again, who knows if they're telling the truth, or not. You can never really tell for sure. I think they say things a lot of the time just to drive us crazy and ramp up speculation. Not to mention, sometimes it's hard to distinguish between when they're being serious, and when they're being facetious. They should be forced to do separate podcasts every week, where in one, they're allowed to joke around. And in the other they have to be serious as a heart attack. lol"
Well, they are liars, for whatever reasons, to cover up continuity mishaps or to keep the true nature of the show's story a secret. They do lie.
That's why I am just going to unhappily wait until they show me in the episodes what the heck is going on.
@Andrew Sparkes,
Not bad! Not bad at all! I can't say that I see it happening, but I still think it's a hell of a theory. You should submit it in the theories section :)
@sagasta,
I agree with you about that Snape comment. It was classless, and ill-informed statement to make. But to then use the word retarded, right back at them? Well, let's just say you didn't really rise above that statement.
As far as the producers are concerned; To call them out-and-out liars, shows that you don't have the slightest clue as to what they have to deal with on an every day basis, in order to do their jobs. Go back and read my post again. Please. Read the entire post. Let it soak in. And take the time to consider the things that I wrote. Then try putting yourself in their shoes, for a minute. :)
@McMurphy,
they were telling the truth about originally having Hurley in the cabin. Jorge Garcia made a comment that that was what was originally in the script he read, that it was supposed to be him in the cabin. I believe he said they even filmed it with him in it too.
for those of you not as well versed in harry potter, snape is a character who came off as being very dark,mean and at times evil. (the bad guy if you will) and at the end of the series *SPOILER ALERT* was re-contextualized as "the hero" basically. once you find out what his motivation was the whole time and you see what was really going on you realize wow this guy is not who he appeared to be.(genius writing) so,the question is how does this apply to lost/locke? well, the obvious would be that esau/mib/flocke/unlocke whatever you want to call him turns out to be the good guy. could happen,but i'm not entirely sold on this idea. i think the general point there is that things might not be as they seem with locke. it could be wishful thinking on my behalf, but, i'm hoping , and taking this to possibly mean that as jack said (maybe)"we shouldn't count john locke out yet." and i'm quoting with the understanding that those aren't the exact words that he used but you get the idea.so hopefully this means that we haven't seen the last of the real locke. i'm still really hoping that he will come back somehow (ressurected etc.) & fulfill the destiny that appeared to have despite the whole mib situation.it does seem like damon kinda let something slip there especially since it was in a more one on one kinda context (sorta weird the guy had him sign a harry potter book). also thanks for sharing this snape comment for us to speculate on otherwise we would have never known that he said that. the other comment i found interesting,although i couldn't hear him say it on the audio file, was when carlton said "eventually they will all be on there (on the "wall of the dead") ". was this just an idle remark/joke or was he getting at something more serious? i could really see that coming to fruition. what if they do all die and they become re-united as the "undead" on the island. we find out what's up with these ghostly apparitions and they ALL end up in that category (happily).then we'd really have the zombie season! one more thing about the whole snape comment, someone else raised a good point, is locke in quotes? this would imply that he is referring to "mib". if not in quotes,he may just be referring to our old pal,the real john locke.
@Kris.,
Interesting. That's weird that they let the network tell them to use Christian instead of Hurley. Surely, using Christian was their decision, though. Considering they kept using him in that role. I wonder if it had originally planned to be Hurley all along, that has been doing what Christian has been doing since that time. Now I'm all confused! lol
I recall them once saying that a similar thing happened when the four-toed foot "debuted" in the season 2 finale. They said it was originally gonna be three toes, but the network said that was too weird.
jacob said...
"hopefully this means that we haven't seen the last of the real locke. i'm still really hoping that he will come back somehow (ressurected etc.) & fulfill the destiny that appeared to have despite the whole mib situation."
People are gonna call us crazy. But I'm really hoping for that, myself. I get that they've been saying that 'Dead is Dead' on this show, since season 1, and up til now, have stuck by that fact. But if there's one person I would want to see resurrected, it's John Locke!
Plus, there has to be a reason that they've kept his body around all this time, right? I mean, besides to use it for the big reveal that Locke was really "MIB". It just seems like they could have went about the big reveal in a different manner. And that the real Locke's dead body is there for a better reason.
I was kind of hoping that when all the people outside the base of the statue realized that "Locke" wasn't Locke, they would storm the base of the statue. And then while everybody was inside, trying to sort out what had happened, the real Locke would actually rise from the dead. "MIB" would of course, have disappeared, and Ben would deny killing Jacob, and say that it was Locke who did it.
And then when everyone re-emerged from the base of the statue, they would see the real Locke standing there, think that he was "MIB", and want to hurt him. Thus, Walt's dream came true.
Just a theory! And I admit it's a far-fetched one! So please don't bother trying to tear it apart. Because it's not like it's something I'm even remotely *sure* of. :)
Stupid question... but if Locke was truly resurrected--wouldn't he wake up immediately choking/drowning on formaldehyde in his lungs and his internal organs burning on the fluid? Also.. here's what I think will go down: 2 alternate timelines are created--one where 815 lands in Los Angeles, and everyone is alive (they only show the actor's who they can get back), but... something doesn't feel right to people like Jack, Kate, Sawyer, etc. There's also another timeline.. one where Juliet is dead, the hatch has been exploded, and only the people in 2007 island time are alive (Ben, Sun, Lapidus, etc.) Desmond merges both timelines into one at some point.
@John,
He wouldn't be resurrected as a human. He would become whatever kind of entity Jacob was, and "MIB" is.
And I know the producers can't show us their hand. And they have to say a lot of things to throw us off. But they've went on record quite a few times, saying that they were very opposed to alternate realities.
brian k vaughan is leaving lost?! does anyone know if this is true?!
Damon: You are married to your destiny, you can try to avoid it, but it will catch up to you. This is why Charlie shut the door in the Looking Glass station, because he embraced his death.
So Desmond always pushes the button. (As Hawking told him its the only thing of importance he'll ever do.) And Locke is dead as he was supposed to have died so many times before. (Including on the day of his birth.) Jack really doesn't have what it takes and Kate runs away... What else?
Can someone please clarify the whole Claire on the dead or alive wall. Which one was it? The transcript says that someone saw her on the dead wall but comments here say that she was in fact on the alive wall. So which was it?
@terrig66,
I'd try not to worry about it, too much. They're not gonna give us a straight answer, so anything they tell us now is just gonna drive us crazy, if we try to read anything into it.
We know she's definitely coming back. And if I had to guess, she'll still be alive. But she might still be under that same spell or "sickness", that she was under the last time we saw her. Similar to Danielle's science team.
LOL,How right you are McMurphy! That little tidbit is driving me crazy! I just wanna know why those 2 posters above claim that the person who posed the question got it wrong. I mean, how do they know....did they themselves see the wall? Were they there? Was it clarified and not in the audio? You see????? Batshit Craaaaaazzzzyyyyy!!!
lol. I never saw it. Maybe someone can provide a link. But I think maybe there was a picture of the writers room that got "leaked", and it showed the "fabled" board, which shows all the lost character's on it, and has them all categorized as dead, alive, or undead.
If what they're saying is true. And a picture did "leak". I find it very possible that they re-arranged some names on that board, just to mess with everybody's head.
AHA!!! The person was referencing DHARMA SPECIAL ACCESS! I just saw the video and Claire is clearly on the Living Wall. My mind is at ease! I can't wait to see her next season!
Ben is way more like Snape than Locke is/was. So why the comparison with Locke? Is Locke a half-blood prince?
@P,
Yea. I don't really get the whole Snape comment unless there's something we just can't see yet. Because as of right now, if you have to compare one character to Snape, it would be Ben. Not Locke, or "FLocke".
But even still. Ben is extremely likeable in the minds of many (including me), because he's such a brilliant actor. Unlike Snape. Who was a bitter, miserable, pitiful, spiteful, despicable character throughout the entire Harry Potter story. The movies didn't even come close to justifying how despicable he really was.
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And even in the end, when it turned out he was working for the good guys (just like I had predicted he was, the second he killed Dumbledore. And was 100% positive of during my second reading of the book), he still came off as despicable to me, even in the end. Because if he truly loved Lilly with all his heart, then it was wrong of him to treat Harry like a red-headed step child, just because she chose to be with James instead of him. And if I was Harry, there's no way in hell I'd ever name my son after him. That's just me, though.
Close up of Damon signage: http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8332/lockelikesnape.jpg
Thanks McLeron, nice one :)
Okay so I am the 'idiot' fan who asked the Claire question - honestly I was convinced I saw her on that wall, and I now know that I was wrong... So sorry guys, but I thought Damon's reaction was interesting!
Otherwise the event was wonderful, I was sat front row centre, the guys were really nice taking pictures and signing things. The only thing - the booklet of the Curzon promised 'exclusive clips from next season' - the was nothing in the clips that hasn't been shown already, no special teasers or anything (the season 6 teaser doesn't count, it was just footage about Lost actors and things from previous seasons) which was a bit dissapointing, also it said the event would be 2 hours and it was only about 1.5 hours. Oh well, just happy I could get a ticket!
The whole thing I find really interesting about the "Living" wall in the Dharma Special Access video - Where the magic happens - is that it's broken up into two parts.
One the left there is-
*Locke, Ben, Clare - on the top row
*Sawyer, Miles - 2nd row
*Hurley - 3rd row
(Now this is where I have trouble seeing things clearly...)
*A boy ? - 4th row
* ?male, ?, Juliet (?) - 5th
* Walt - 6th row
On the right hand side you have...
* Desmond, Sayid (?) - 1st row
* Jack, Kate and blonde person (? - maybe Diane or Juliet?) - 2nd row
* Jin, Sun and ? - 3rd row
* Bernard, Rose, ? and ? - 4th row
* Richard - 6th row
I think what I find most interesting is row 1 on both "sides" and row 6 on both "sides"
Any ideas ?