Thanks to Pacejunkie over at The Fuselage for this great summary.
GREAT PODCAST! (and it's Carlton's birthday)...
They are currently breaking episodes 21 and 22/23.
All shooting will be done in the next three weeks.
The box--Ben was putting it into terms Locke could understand. It's a metaphor. It would be silly for there to actually be a box, says Damon. This will become clearer the next time they pick up the storyline.
You'll see Locke again in the next couple weeks, but not revisit this story for a while.
Locke's attitude about the island will come back into play. The Others will not be encamped in their comfortable place for the entire season.
Rousseau has to overcome her issues before she can approach her daughter.
Expose-they're very excited about it. This episode may make people say they've Jumped the Shark. Nikki and Paulo's flashbacks in this ep. will satisfy people who wonder who they are and why they're here. A couple flashbacks take place in Australia before they got on the plane but most take place on the island.
Boone has a wig which is why hair continuity may not look accurate in the ep. They were not going to ask him to cut his hair for two days' work.
Carlton: "The Others are a lot badder than you think they are." By the end of the season you may not think that their act of hanging Charlie was out of character for them. This seems to imply/confirm that Ethan/The Others are in fact responsible for Charlie's hanging. (PJ note: So "hah" to all the people who said they weren't ).
We'll see the Dharma van again, it will have a flashback of sorts and see how it came to be in the jungle. We will also see another Volkswagon product on the island.
Alcatraz island was actually shown on Rousseau's map as early as season one when Sayid discovered it in Solitary. They knew about at least one other smaller island even then.
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lol you know a lot of ppl are feeling dumb. The box IS a metaphor. The man from tallahassee IS cooper.
The box is smokey - he can "appear" as anyone.
the box is Michael, or vincent and smokey is Locke
So they say Locke "appeared" to have blown up the sub so that debate will go on.
Kristen's spoilers say they are casting for roger- and D&C discuss how we will find out how the van got there. So this leads me to believe that the "hippie" episode coming up might just be a DHARMA FB.
What Ethan did to Charlie was because they knew the bond that he was having w/ claire and how strong it would become. Charlie is no doubt possesive about her and Aaron and by "getting rid of him" that would make it easier to have control over her and Aaron.
Yes the box eas metaphorical and Cooper is TMFT. I seriously don't understand how ppl can still get it wrong and take things too literal. I guess some ppl need things spelled out. Which maybe this show isn't for you? This show forces you to think and comprehend what isn't being said and reading between the lines. I wonder when the series ends how many ppl will "get it" and how many will be left stumped lol.
Good Podcast all in all. Those of you complaining last time with the " why can't they just give straight answers' got what you wished for.
Oh and they didn't answer who the woman is in the portrait. Maybe next week. Hopefully they will setlle the whole is it a hamster or a rat or a field mouse or someones left foot?
They didn't answer as to why locke was wet either. maybe next week...
Um, the most important revelation in all that...was that the "Others are badder than we think"
duh
I am pretty sure they got flooded with questions about who that lady in the portrait was, but they weren't going to answer that. They might answer it after the hippie episode has aired.
maybe the hung charlie cus the yare able to see into the futre a bit... not years or months but maybe a hours or a couple of days.
so they did it in revenge
I think most people knew that the box was a metaphor.. I hope.
Carlton voted for Sanjaya hahahaha
The portrait of the woman may be of Karen DeGroot? Looks a lot like her.
'Alcatraz island was actually shown on Rousseau's map as early as season one when Sayid discovered it in Solitary. They knew about at least one other smaller island even then.'
This 'revelation' is quite vindicating - although I didn't get a lot of naysayers when putting it out there right after "Every Man For Himself" - it depended upon realizing that, in order to recognize Hydratraz on Rousseau's map, one had to shirt their perspective from south looking north, and the main crash site, to a north-looking-south vista, and there it was, clear as day (although probably hidden from view before the Swan implosion) along with that other island, its purpose - if any - yet to be determined. Again, I'm fairly certain this is another reason why the Others intercepted Michael's raft precisely where they did lest its occupants literally run into Hydratraz.....one more supposition suggesting that the EMF cloak extended to it as well.
From LOST Dictionary:
'shirt perspective' - e.g., an act of mercy, spec. providing a shirt or other form of cloth covering to spare others from having to see certain anatomical aspects; example: Hurley giving Desmond his t-shirt in "Further Instructions".....admittedly, one gender's act of mercy may be seen as another's deprivation.....
Of course, I meant 'SHIFT their perspective'.....
ambersumiko I think it is Karen too, but what is a portrait of her doing in Ben's house, and why would she have (a small creature, jury is out on what it is) in her hands. If it is a field mouse, Juliet wasn't even on the island when Karen was supposedly there. This leads to even more questions.
Also in the picture of Ben's fridge why does he have containers with the Swan logo?
where do we see a portrait of a woman.. did i miss something?
go to the screencaps/mystery section. The debate is all there.
so i am wondering, do the others know about desmond? i mean, why is he trying to save charlie's life? just bc he is a "nice guy"? remember the others hung charlie, so was he supposed to die then and because he was rescued, it changes some events?
My feeling is they'll close the door right back up and let Locke brew over it for a few days.
The box should have been an obvious metaphor.
The Others definately are crazy. I think they are. They appear nice, use deception, then swoop in for the kill. They're damn good.
I think the reason Ethan {with some help of course} hung Charlie up in a tree was 'cos he had a crush on Claire & he was jealous.
"The Others are a lot badder than you think they are." So Ben's Others are the bad ones & this other faction of Others are the good ones!! That is my guess. 'Cos I think the kids {Emma & Zack} were originally taken by these other Others, explaining why we saw one of them carrying a teddy bear & then later the kids ended up with Ben's Others.
Also what stuck out to me was: 'Rousseau has to overcome her issues before she can approach her daughter.' What's all that about, what issues? Does she have issues with Ben?
Great article Dark
Matt
My question is not why they tried to hang Charlie(another instance of his cheating death) but why they wanted Aaron and not Claire. They didn't try to recruit her like they must have done with the tailies they took. They drugged her. They only wanted Aaron.
Maybe wanting to keep the baby was some scheme to keep Julia on the island. Maybe they were going to tell her her experiment (or therapy she was using on her sister) worked, by producing this baby and saying it was someone elses. Maybe all the others don't live at the same place. Just a thought. Maybe Alex helped Claire escape because she knew they were going to kill her after they took the baby.
Just a thought.
"Also what stuck out to me was: 'Rousseau has to overcome her issues before she can approach her daughter.' What's all that about, what issues? Does she have issues with Ben?
Great article Dark
Matt"
Um the issues that come to my mind are:
She's been on the island 16 yrs. continually scared and threatened by the others desperatly wanting to get her daughter back and not having anyone to help her.
She knows that her daughter prolly doesn't know who she is and like they mentioned in the podcast she can't exactly walk up to her and say hey Im your mom wanna come live with me in the jungle.
Maybe she came to the conclusion that her daughter was better off with the others and now that she actually has help and knows her daughter IS alive she has to realise that her deepest desire and dreams has come true but she just doesn't know how to go about it.
Think of how you would react in the same situation.It's not that easy to just go in there. She's scared that even if she gets alex back , that alex probably wouldn't want her thats a horrible thought and feeling to have as a mother that your only child that you have desperatly wanted and grieved won't want or love you back. So yeah she def has issues to get over and a strategy to work out.
"Maybe they were going to tell her her experiment (or therapy she was using on her sister) worked, by producing this baby and saying it was someone elses."
Put down the crackpipe.
I think Julia would do a simple blood test, or just ask her sister.
Not that Claire's baby was Julia's sister's baby, you moron. That Julia tried her therapy on some people on the island and they wanted her to think it worked so she wouldn't leave. Maybe she wants to leave because she thought she wasn't doing any good.
Can someone explain to me what these crazy theories are that seem to come up on every comment page?
Locke is smokey?
Vuncent is smokey?
Michael's ___(something to do with the mythology)
Why is Michael anything to do with anything?
^ Those are just ppl who are acting stupid and wasting space on here.
Does anyone have a good picture of Danielle's map that shows Alcatraz drawn on it?
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Mapp.jpg
This was all that I could find that remotely looks like another island.
Yay! Patchy is alive!