We now have the video thanks to our other Susan. So thanks to "Video Susan" for the video as always, who has done a great job getting us this mobisode a week before most other people get to see it, and thanks very much to "Transcript Susan" for the following transcript from the new mobisode. Now if only I could find a "Reveal all the secrets Susan"!
Mobisode #5 - “Operation Sleeper”
Jack and Juliet.
Jack is asleep. He wakes up.
Juliet puts her finger up, like ‘shh’.
Juliet - It’s ok.
Jack - What happened?
Juliet - We need to talk, Jack.
Jack - Ok.
Juliet - Ever since I got here, the people in your camp, Sayid, Sawyer, they don’t trust me. They think that I am here to hurt them. And it’s only a matter of time before they figure out…
Jack - I’m not going to let anything happen to you.
Juliet - Thank you. Please let me finish. It’s only a matter of time before they figure out that they’re right.
Jack - What?
Juliet - They shouldn’t trust me. I’m still working for him, for Ben. He sent me here to study the women to find out which ones were pregnant.
Jack - Why?
Juliet - So we can take them. He promised me no one would get hurt.
Jack - He promised you?
Juliet - Listen, Jack.
Jack - How could you? I thought, that you were one of us. I saw it. You wanted to get on that submarine as bad as I did.
Juliet - But I didn’t get on it. And neither did you. Just… I guess I thought that it was actually going to happen. That we would get off this island. I was naïve to think that he would let us.
Jack - Let us? Ben was in a wheelchair. Locke blew up that submarine.
Juliet - Did he?
Jack - So you’re only here because he sent you here?
Juliet - Yeah.
Jack - Why are you telling me this now?
Juliet - Last night with Sun, we saw the baby growing inside her. If she’s still on this island in about a month, both of them will be dead. I’ve been living Benjamin Linus’s dream for three years. Three years. It’s time to wake up.
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Wow am I the first one to comment to this? Thanks to Susan and DarkUFO.
It happened after D.O.C. and... I'm not sure how to think of Juliet. What do This transcription mean? It's hard for me to figure out...
Juliet is still one of us(losties), right?
It happens between D.O.C. and The Brig.
I think the dialogue in this one sounds pretty naive.
wow thats so cool! i always wanted to know how juliet told the truth to jack! nice to see her made the right choice, be honest with jack and help the losties!!!
"I’ve been living Benjamin Linus’s dream for three years. Three years. It’s time to wake up."
loved that line!
i would cry so hard if anything happens to sun and the baby :(
@foxysmile: this is a missing piece, when Juliet told Jack about the fact that she was still working for Ben and so they decided together with Rousseau how to prepare their counter-attack with the dynamite...what is it that you don't understand?
Anyway...once again a Jack mobisode!!!
I am so looking forward to seeing it - thanks for the script Susan!
They should have called it operation sleeping....
Yet another Jack episode, that makes three out of five. I am starting to worry about the season because I cannot handle another Jack show like season two.
Yay!!!! Thanks Susan and dark.
luthian i would be crying with you :(
Good work to all concerned - Will look forward to the video. These mobisodes seem to be getting better.
This one seems like quite a long one looking at the script.
OMG FINALLY! I always felt cheated that we didn't see Juliet tell Jack about still working for Ben and Jack's reaction. Can't wait to see the video. Thanks so much Susan and Dark!
Great stuff Dark and Susan for getting the transcript up so quickly. What do you think she means by " I’ve been living Benjamin Linus’s dream for three years. Three years" Love to hear your thoughts
thank you so much dark and susan!!!
Jack overload :D
Thanks Susan and Dark!
wow!this is a pretty important "missing scene" isn't it.We didn't know how Jack knew about Ben's plan of sending juliet as a mole.can't wait to see it!
Simone - get used to it. MF is one of, if not the biggest star on the show. He's also the leader of the protagonists (unlike Locke). If you don't like MF that much maybe you should just not watch the 2-3 flashbacks per season he will have... because the writers obviously love Jack's story above everyone else's. Not only that, but two of the Jack missing pieces emphasize that - with the exception of maybe Locke - Jack has the most comprehensive story of anyone on the island. Who else had the opportunity to live unfettered with the others and only a short period later plan their destruction?
The cowboy in Mullholand Drive said the same thing at the doorway, and the protagonist woke up, to another life
I don't like that quote, not one bit, although I hope our writers will come up wih something better than a repeating a David Linch plot.
matt...maybe the next flashback will be even more interesting and tell us when his ex wife brought him the divorce papers and he went crying in the bathroom. As if the tatoos where not enough. Cant wait...seriously...
There are more interesting characters on the show like Ben, Desmond, Locke, Rousseau, Alex etc. I just think that it is not fair to them and to their fans to do three out of five episodes about Jack. that's all...
Can't wait for the video.Are these mobisode's weekly?Been out of the loop for a while:(
JW, I think that she means when she says that she's been living Ben's dream for 3 yrs that she has been under his control for three years. She's been on the island a bit more than 3 yrs.
I think that this mobisode sounds promising and I am really looking forward to watching it. And while I do agree that too much Jack can be a bit dull (3 out of 5 mobisodes!), I adore Juliet and I enjoy watching her interactions with Jack. Together they make a very intriguing pair!
Anyway, I am hoping that since we already knew this conversation took place and we are finally getting to see it play out in a mobisode, that means that we can expect to see other known off screen conversation between other characters in future mobisdes. I know for instance that there are several between Kate and Sawyer that I think we missed out on-- like how they went from the mixed tape scene to being back in Sawyer's tent in the Brig; or what happened right after Sayid told Sawyer to play the tape that Locke gave him for Kate. I'd also be interested in seeing how Jack and Juliet approached Danielle about helping them with the dynamite, or hearing Sun tell Jin and Sayid about how she shot Colleen. And there must have been a ton of stuff that we missed out on between Charlie and Claire. Hopefully each mobisode will continue to trump the one before it, as it seems to be the pattern.
Thanks for sharing this!
i personally am very happy to see jack again :D
but i also want to see the other characters...
hopefully we will get locke, kate, sayid, desmond, jun mobisodes soon :)
but for this one:
cant wait to see it!!!
Wow, another Jack centric mobisode! Can't wait to see it and the dialogue sounds interesting. Thanks dark!
--I know for instance that there are several between Kate and Sawyer that I think we missed out on-- like how they went from the mixed tape scene to being back in Sawyer's tent in the Brig--
dont you think that, this would be just a shipper moment but nothing else?
i dont think they will give us shipper moments...
but some other conversation between sawyer and kate -from the mini arc perhaps- would be cool... i would like to see the scene where kate told sawyer about the cameras that's watching them and how did she know or guess that they're broken!
^Luthien, you are probably right about that being a shopper moment, but I'd still like to see it. Granted I am a shipper, but somehow that jump (from the mixed tape scene to Sawyer's tent) seemed a bit disconnected.
Anyway, another good converstaion between Kate and Sawyer that we missed out on was where Sawyer explained about the pacemaker/heart rate monitor/bunny-killer thing with Ben (she seemed to know exactly who and what he was referring to when he mentioned "Captain Bunny Killer" in the outrigger). That could easily have been the conversation where Kate mentions that the camera don't work. It would be great if they could throw all of that together along with some else we didn't know about the Others and turn that into a mobisode!
Wasn't there a rumor a while back that the crew had return to the seen of the cages for filming (or maybe I just imagined it)?
thank for the vid !! i loved this mobisode !!
It may just be that certain actors negotiated contracts to participate in these mobisodes, and others didn't, which is why we will see a lot of some characters and none of others.
The Jack chauvinism (i.e., it's Jack's show, don't watch if you don't like Jack,etc.) is almost as annoying as Jack himself. If Terry O'Quinn, for instance, decided to opt out of these mobisodes, then we won't get a Locke one. That won't mean Locke is less important than Jack, or anyone else. The wonderful benefit of this huge ensemble is we all get to enjoy what we like, and it's perfectly possible to enjoy the show without enjoying Jack - because, even if he is nominally the "main character", his importance pales within the vast variety available to everyone on the show.
Anyway, this one sounds interesting. I love that they are showing Jack and Juliet in a scene together, one which sounds very intimate and honest. That's a relationship worth exploring and I like this indication that it's being developed further.
thanks for the vid but is it just me or does the vid ends in the middle of the mobisode???
:((((((((((((((((((((
i really want to watch the whole thing!!!
Thanks to the Susans and Dark. This is great, better than last weeks' Juliet mobisode. Love Juliet, she's fabulous!
Thanks for the video, these Mobisodes are getting better every week! I really enjoyed that one, its nice to finally see, Juliet telling Jack the real reason she joined their camp & then why she changed her mind about helping Ben..
PS: MF & EM as always, performing great together..!
oh gosh, MORE filler / fill in the gap work, yet it never really tells us anything of signifigance. its just elaborating and redundant.
the dialog is so bankrupt of logic that it almost makes it comical - like a comic book. oh wait, thats what kind of writers produce this show.
"keep the mysteries secret at all costs. make the dialog very bad to reveal nothing."
I'm a little surprised no one's commented on the way Julliet said "Did he?" when Jack said Locke blew up the sub. Very interesting tone. Thanks Susan x2.
Also - I'm a Matthew Fox supporter, but I gotta say, not the best acting in this mobisode... then again, the dialog, as mentioned above, didn't really lend itself to drama.
Aww i love Juliet she is awesome!!.And this is great video.
veronique said:"The Jack chauvinism (i.e., it's Jack's show, don't watch if you don't like Jack,etc.) is almost as annoying as Jack himself. If Terry O'Quinn, for instance, decided to opt out of these mobisodes, then we won't get a Locke one. That won't mean Locke is less important than Jack, or anyone else. The wonderful benefit of this huge ensemble is we all get to enjoy what we like, and it's perfectly possible to enjoy the show without enjoying Jack - because, even if he is nominally the "main character", his importance pales within the vast variety available to everyone on the show."
The thing is that I'm worry about next season, will it be Jack's show? OMG I hope not but 3 of 5 mobisodes as main character makes me so pessimist.
Thanks Susan & Dark!!
The line is actually "Last night with Sun, we saw the baby growing inside her."
But nice!
Of course Locke didn't blow up the sub. Remember everyone commenting on Locke being wet when he came up from the pier right before the explosion.
They are going to need the sub to sink the freighter in season 6.
I am really curious about her motivation in wanting to help Sun and her baby.
finally i've watched the mobisode!!!
that was really cool! i liked it! EM was great as usual :)
and god is it just me or is matthew fox getting hotter and hotter every second???
The Jack mobisode i'd really like to see is probably the one i'll never actually get: the one where Jack finds out what happened when the button wasn't pushed and that he was wrong about it. That this has never been addressed is one of the biggest failures of the show considering how major that plotline was for Jack's character in season 2.
Having said that, this mobisode sounds swell. The first two must have been a device to lower expectations.
Why be worried that 3 of 5 have featured Jack.2 of 5 have featured Juliet! Does that mean she'll be the second most important character next year? If that's the way to read this, then cool! We'll be getting tons of Juliet then! (Except I don't think any of this means a thing.)
i would like to see the scene where kate told sawyer about the cameras that's watching them and how did she know or guess that they're broken!
I would love to see this question answered as it jumped out at me immediately. How and why did Kate know the cameras were supposedly broken?
This mobisode was awesome. MF and EM are so good together and I love the way that Jack, as smart as he is, continues to just take things at face value, as if it never occured to him that Ben somehow manipulated Locke to blow that sub up, especially after his conversation with Ben during the chess game. How it never occured to him that after all Ben had put Juliet through she could still be working for him. His scientific, analytical brain just doesn't seem to bother with anything beyond what is tangible, if he can't see it or touch it then it doesn't register as significant to him. It's a character flaw that not only magnifies his lack of people skills and shows why his bedside manner is so bad, but it also gives him a naive and boyish quality that is quite endearing.
Honestly, I just can't get into these mobisodes :( I wish I could though!!
luthien said :
and god is it just me or is matthew fox getting hotter and hotter every second???
it's just you.
katieb20022001 :
we know ben "used" locke in some way, he said it after but locke was agree too so...but it's true, ben never thought about it
luthien sais"and god is it just me or is matthew fox getting hotter and hotter every second???"
Yes, it is just you. To me he isn't hot at all :P
I loved this mobisode. It was the best one so far IMO. I always wanted to know how Juliet told Jack that she's a mole and it was nice to finally see that scene play out.
@luthien, I didn't want to go there but since you wrote it..YES! HE LOOKS FAB!This man is getting hotter and hotter, if it's possible, because he was already the hottest man on earth! I'm all fojàdj sdàofjsdàojf sdpjdfs and it's the foxy effect! OMG!
I wish I could write a decent and intelligent comment like katieb. ITA with what her and when my hormones stop partying I'll rewatch it under a different prospective, maybe not focusing on MF's arms, eyes, hair, etc.. I'm sorry but I can't concentrate properly! I'd better keep on working so that I can forget about it for a while :P
sorry for the typos, partially is foxy's fault, partially is that I'm at work!
oups i made a mistake i wanted to say but jack never thought about it ^^" sorry
luthien it isn't just you he does get hotter and hotter!
Why be worried that 3 of 5 have featured Jack.2 of 5 have featured Juliet! Does that mean she'll be the second most important character next year? If that's the way to read this, then cool! We'll be getting tons of Juliet then! - veronique
I would have nothing to complain about if that was the case. Juliet is my favourite female character on the show and the more of her the better. ;)
Still, I agree that it would be nice to finally see Sawyer, Desmond, Locke or Claire but maybe not all of the actors have agreed to participate in this.
i'm glad its not just me :)
lyly I thought you were a jacketeer too ... huh..
But that quote about the button not being pushed and Jack learning about it. I'd love to see that too, but technically wasn't the purple sky thing the result of Desmond turning that key?
hatchlin23 said: "I am really curious about her motivation in wanting to help Sun and her baby."
I guess Sun asked her the same question, and for once I found Juliet sincere. She said something like she used to give good news to pregnant women before coming to the island, and she would like to be able to do that again. But with Juliet we never know...
And perhaps they'll leave the island in the sub after all. Well, those who survive :)
I agree that the writing could have been better, but I liked it a lot.
Juliet was much better in this mobisode than in the previous one, and I'm always glad to see Jack.
Thanks very much Susan and Dark.
Luthien you're not alone and among a very big crowd, the lucky one that gets to see Foxy on a weekly basis :)
mne:
Juliet was actually a researcher wasn't she? I never pictured her in a hospital doing the usual OBGYN thing.
Luthienhow could it be JUST you? shame on you girl! you forgot we jack fans are four? *wink*
Loved the vid.thanks to Susan(s) and to Dark.If they keep showing jack every week I think i'm gonna love these mobisodes more than I thought I would. IMO the best one for now remains the Jack/ben one though!
@odul
I guess she was a conception researcher, and eventually met the patients...
This is the dialogue I was mentioning:
SUN: Why are you doing this?
JULIET: What?
SUN: Helping me.
JULIET: [Pauses] Once upon a time, I told women that they were pregnant and their faces, it was the best news they ever got in their entire life. Then I came here. I've lost, nine, patients in the last three years. I'm helping you because I want to tell you that you and your husband got pregnant before you came here. I'm helping you because I wanna give good news again.
I do like Jack being in these mobisodes, a lot, but I don't think there's much left missing pieces about Jack though,
Other than maybe convincing Rousseau to help them with an ex-Other.
Do we even know why Juliet was still helping Ben? What did he have left to offer her? It couldnt have been a ticket off the island since he already owed her that.
odul said...
lyly I thought you were a jacketeer too ... huh..
so...i need to be crazy when i see jack ? no, sorry the only men on this show who make me "crazy" are sawyer and locke. they're HOT (desmond too) not jack sorry if i shocked you
Hahahahaha! Who is writing these mobisodes? The dialogue is absolutely pathetic. They get worse and worse as each one progresses.
No I know the dialogue, I just pitured her in the lab and not in the hospital, because you know Juliet can be as manipulative as hell
"They are going to need the sub to sink the freighter in season"
Now that's an interesting point...
Do we even know why Juliet was still helping Ben? What did he have left to offer her? It couldnt have been a ticket off the island since he already owed her that. - dontlistentoanythingIsay
Maybe Ben held the life of Juliet's sister over her head. Again. Ben said it himself in Expose. He finds out what a person is emotionally invested in and then he exploits it. In Juliet's case, it's her sister.
ok we get it Jack is the lead. Blah blah blah. PLEASE GIVE ME SOMEONE ELSE NOW!!!!!!!!!! HOW BOUT JOHN F'N LOCKE WHO IS THE SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah well I'm a little shocked since he was in your calendar, on January too, anyway my mistake.
lockeisland :
Don't worry dude, locke mobisode's will rock, we don't know how he found the radio tower, we don't know if he went back to talk to Jacob a little more after Walt saved him ... That could be really interesting if the lights in Jacob's were not coming on for Hurley but for Locke...
Dull dialog, telling us nothing new. We knew this conversation took place and knew most of its substance. Yadda yadda yadda. Show us someone we haven't already seen repeatedly. Show us Sun or Jin or Sayid or Sawyer or Locke or Claire or Aaron. Please.
I agree with you Luthien!
MF is getting hotter and hotter every second!!!!
Oh God! This man is gorgeous! His arms, eyes, tatoos, mouth, sholders...
I'm a Jack fan too and I know many girls and boys that think like me!
Jack is wonderful! A imperfect leader! A complex character! A real man!
Luthien don't worry, it's not just you!! ;-) I love that man so much and I loved this mobisode too!
Thanks Susan and the other Susan for bringing the dialogue and the vid to Dark's site. The mobisode was kinda boring, except for Juliet's line, "Did he?". I'm looking forward to many other missing pieces, particularly ones featuring Locke and Sawyer, two of the reasons why so many of us love this show. I'm getting tired of Jack's mug, too, but at least he shared the mobisodes with characters who have some chemistry with him. I like Jack and Ben together (but not near as much as I like Locke's and Ben's scenes. Of course, I like Ben and Locke with anybody.
Chess game still rules. I'm all for Jack/Ben, Locke/Ben, Jack/Juliet, Ben/Juliet mobisodes and a Desmond one. Ben and Juliet are "secret keepers" so I wouldn't mind if all mobisodes starred them. The rest can rest!!
Do you know what has always annoyed me about Jack? The way he looks away when he is thinking and then suddenly looks back- he does it in this mobisode :@
But this mobisode gives us lots of clues! :o
Did Locke blow up the sub? I'm guessing not now :)
And, so, if they get off in a month, Sun's baby will live! Interesting :)
I love you Susan & Dark!!!Thank u soooo much!!!This mobi is the better one so far for me.
I agree with u guys-Foxy is getting dangerously gorgeous!
He is killing me actually.
jj226, Do you know anybody who doesn't do that?
And I'm suprised you're not annoyed with the panting like the rest
That was the best one yet. It seems about right that more of the missing pieces are about Jack - he's the character that has a two week gap in his on-island storyline versus the rest of them.
Locke should have some too. They filled in a lot of his gaps with the last few episodes but we missed whatever happened between his meeting Walt and killing Naomi.
"Locke blew up that submarine."
"Did he?"
Is Juliet saying that Locke did not blow up the sub? (only submerged it and blew up the dock?)I don't know how Juliet would know this if this is the case.
Or is she saying that Ben manuipulated Locke into actually blowing up the sub?
I don't understand why Juliet would choose to go on another mission for Ben (and say she is still working for him) when she is obviously saying the opposite in the last line of this mobisode.
I'm hearing serious double-talk.
Another nice mobisode. Thanks to Dark and Transcript/Video Susan :)
So, did Locke blew up the sub? I hope they'll answer to this question in season 4.
Thank you Dark and Susan!
Nice mobisode, not a big fan of Juliet, but it was definitly a missing piece.
Hey guys, I was going to make some comments on a LOST Mobisode, but I see I stumbled into a Party of Five message forum by mistake. I wonder how that happened... stupid Internet.
I’ve been living Benjamin Linus’s dream for three years. Three years. It’s time to wake up.
IS this all just Ben's dream???
This phrase is kinda strange.
@3d: :D lol
@ lena: it's a metaphor, she's been helping Ben with his 'dream' of saving pregnant women on the island
3d dont worry, it's gonna happen, we'll se Jack comment on Matthew Fox and Lost will go on, come on come back.
dan said...
"Locke blew up that submarine."
"Did he?"
Is Juliet saying that Locke did not blow up the sub? (only submerged it and blew up the dock?)I don't know how Juliet would know this if this is the case.
Or is she saying that Ben manuipulated Locke into actually blowing up the sub?
I think both are being alluded to, to mess with the audience, something I really love about LOST (the multi-tiered structure of the dialogue).
My hunch is that the sub is as useless as Desmond's boat or Michael's raft in transporting people to and from the island. It is used by Ben and Company as a prop to mask from the people on board the true nature of the means of travel -- and by extension, hide the nature of the island. That's why you need to be made unconscious before going to the island and why we never see Juliet actually board the sub. They plop you in the docked sub before you wake up and you think you have traveled underwated to the middle of the Pacific, but I don't think that is exactly what has happened, in the normal sense.
But in that episode, Locke doesn't know that, and wants to prevent Ben from using the sub to let anyone leave the Island; he also thinks the sub might come in handy for on-island activities in the future, so he hides it somewhere and sets off the charges to make Ben think the sub has been destroyed.
My other gut feeling is that I think Locke was acting on his own at that point, but in the final few episodes Locke re-established his connection to the Island (with the help of the Walt-Thing and/or Jacob) and perhaps now he understands better what is going on with Ben, the sub, how to get to and from the Island, and what the purple sky and the hatch implosion means. It will be interesting to see if, and how, his philosophy changes in the next season, and if the sub is actually still around and comes into the plot again.
I don't understand why Juliet would choose to go on another mission for Ben (and say she is still working for him) when she is obviously saying the opposite in the last line of this mobisode.
I think she's saying that she accepted Ben's mission at first but the meeting with Sun made her feel guilty and now she is regretting her decision and spilling the beans.
"hatchling23 said...
They are going to need the sub to sink the freighter in season 6. "
Wow, now that theory really is somewhat cheesy and speculative. I truly enjoyed that mind scenario. Which competent crew would manage the sub?
As for the mobisode, I am utterly glad they left Evangeline Lilly out this time around again.
elisabetta said...
it's a metaphor, she's been helping Ben with his 'dream' of saving pregnant women on the island
Yeah, I know))) I thought it could be a hint.
Man, the way Juliet said "Did he?". Sounds like she knows more 'bout the sub "explosion". Very interesting.
3d, I think Desmond's boat ame back because his compass wasn't working, giant magnet that is the island probably misled him. Remember the compass Locke gave Sayid??
But that wouldn't be a problem for Michael he took off after the purple haze.
odul said: "But that wouldn't be a problem for Michael he took off after the purple haze."
Did he? :)
luthien said :
and god is it just me or is matthew fox getting hotter and hotter every second???
it's just you.
Nah its not just you!
Grt mobisode and Im so glad that they chose to do one on the whole Jack/Juliet sceanrio and est they are not romantically involved or Jack was smart enough to gain Juliets trust.
when Juliet said: Did he?
I think that she didn´t say that because she knows sth that we don´t know. I think that she said that because she knows how ben is, and she knows that probably Ben manipulated Locke.
btw! really cute to see Jack and Juliet together. I loved it.
I just think the mere fact that they brought up the sub again is proof that there's more to that than meets the eye. Even if he did blow it up, I want some explanation as to why he was all wet.
Grt mobisode and Im so glad that they chose to do one on the whole Jack/Juliet sceanrio and est they are not romantically involved or Jack was smart enough to gain Juliets trust.
They aren't romantically involved yet, but the kiss she planted on him makes a little more sense now. Could be it was Juliet's way of telling Jack, "I came for Ben, but I stayed for you."
Whether they ever hook up is irrelevant, but letting him know she cares about him and appreciates him after betraying him was important because she didn't want to die without Jack knowing that Ben wasn't the only reason she was there.
I think Juliet was simply suggesting that Ben most likely manipulated Locke into blowing that sub up, but it could also be I'm just not suspicious enough, but I do like like the theory about the sub just being a "ruse". If that's the case it would be interesting to see how they have been traveling back and forth.
@mne
Yeah it was just too much for Michael ;)
Maurslurker said...
"Wow, now that theory really is somewhat cheesy and speculative."
All theories are speculative, but thanks for the cheesy part.
I can't recall the exact reference to when TPTB said there was a reason John Locke was wet when he came back down the pier after "apparently" blowing up the sub.
It isn't as though I would expect the Galaga to have torpedos or any other weapons, but they could use the sub to quietly approach the freighter, same as when they snuck up on Sun in the sailboat.
As far as the crew? Well the sub was empty when Locke entered it, so it stands to reason the "competant" crew was ashore and is most likely still alive.
Or did you think Locke blew them up as well?
Once the Losties and the Others join forces to get rid of the freighter people, I would hope the sub crew would be ready and helpful.
Great void that has been filled.
That´s why jack raised his voice to sawyer so he plays the tape. Juliet had talked to him about that thing, so jack knew all along about the tape.
But the point is the little words;
Did he?
Juliet raises a point on everything we know about locke. Did he telled all the true about something since the first episode?
From everything, he just chooses what is the better part to tell and "forgets" the other ones. He explained that to boone and jack several times in the first season...
But with the sub he just says that he did it and gave reasons for doing it.
So there is something about the sub that we don´t know... and only locke knows.
And there is the point of walt appearing on the gravesite and locke changing side when he killed naomi. What did walt tells to locke that locke changes is "strategy" to back his archenemy ben?
It was something very strong about the freighter people... and we know that there are few people that fighted face to face with smokey and are still alive.
Jack, Locke and Kate.
(i think that sawyer will go like eko has gone in this 4 season)
And i think there is still one mobepisode left (at least) with jack:
The time when smokey kills the pilot, with kate and charlie hiding and jack been "watching" the pilot body. Did he saw smokey attacking the pilot and placing it up there?
But, that is probably in the paper to show us what is really smokey.
Thank you! Another great mobisode. A genuine missing piece, i always wanted to see Juliet telling Jack the truth. And the sub... yeah, maybe there's more than meets the eye!
I feel sorry for you people who don't like Jack/Matthew Fox. Jack is a great character and Matthew is a great actor. I can't say the same about Sawyer and Josh, IMO. But that's life. Anyways, i miss Locke and Kate, hope to see them soon =]!
Operation Sleeper > King of the Castle > The Deal > Hurley and Frogurt > The Watch
Brian K. Vaughan is the best, but one of the only, recurring addition to the writing team since the first season. Y: The Last Man, his graphic novel is amazing.
i'm not a liar - I feel sorry for you people who don't like Jack/Matthew Fox. Jack is a great character and Matthew is a great actor.
Don't feel sorry for us, and believe me, we are legion. There are so many interesting characters and story lines in Lost that it isn't necessary to like all of the them to enjoy the show. I believe that it is the combination of characters and their interconnecting stories that makes the show, not one character, and certainly not Jack.
I'm really starting to like the mobisodes more and more. February can't get here fast enough.
To saska: I agree, the combination of ALL the characters really makes the show so great. I can't say there's one I don't like.
3d, I think Desmond's boat ame back because his compass wasn't working, giant magnet that is the island probably misled him. Remember the compass Locke gave Sayid??
On the other hand, though, Desmond is an accomplished sailor; he was going to sail around the world. I think it's fair to say that early on in a two week sea voyage from the LOST Island, he would have picked up on something screwy with the compass/navigation system. In fact, he would probably notice it the first day when the position of the sun was off. People have been sailing using the stars for navigation for centuries, so it's probably unlikely Desmond relied only on a compass that led him in a circle. Unless the stars in the sky are off too, which creates more questions than answers.
Even if he had just zigzagged randomly, he would stand a decent chance of finding land, another boat, or something else, just by accident. What would be extremely UNlikely is that he would accidentally end up where he started, which is exactly what happened.
I'm not privy to any answers that haven't been revealed yet onscreen, but my gut tells me that there was nothing wrong with Desmond's equipment or sailing technique. He just didn't find land because his line about the snow globe was accurate: they actually are in a (metaphorical) snowglobe and there just isn't any land out there. How that's possible is anyone's guess... maybe the Island's weird properties or the Dharma experiments somehow folded spacetime back on itself locally, so that there really is very little "sea" out there and the only pieces of land in it are the two Islands seen in the show. And the way the Others bring people and things to and from the Island is to "unfold" the fabric of spacetime so that it links to the outside world. This is all just speculation but it fits a lot of the stuff we've been shown in the show.
I remember a Land of the Lost(!) episode from when I was a kid, where the dad was using these high-powered binoculars and looking forward into the horizon, he could see the back of his head. Of course that's ridiculous because of the curve of the planet, but the snow globe incident reminded me of that.
But that wouldn't be a problem for Michael he took off after the purple haze.
We still don't know if Ben actually allowed Michael to return home, but if he did, I suspect that the heading he directed Michael to had something to do with it. Maybe that's the exact direction and angle you have to be traveling at in order to be "in phase" with the outside world. Or maybe he didn't let Michael go at all -- but I doubt that, as he's been gone a good month now, if he was sailing around aimlessly like Desmond was, he'd have hit the Island again.
With the complaining that goes on you'd think that Jack has had 3 mobisodes all to himself which isn't the case. He's shared each mobisode with some of Lost's most intriguing characters. Jack is the main character and his story intertwines with so many of the characters, that he was bound to end up in more than one of the missing pieces.
I too enjoy all of the characters, some less than others and some storylines I find more annoying than interesting, but I don't think I could say I actually hate any of them.
I think all of the mobisodes have been fun and interesting so far and I appreciate that Dark gets them to us a week ahead of time.
@3d: Love your insightful comments. They really made me think. So thanks. It's nice to see comments based on the content of the mobisode instead of the "hotness" of the actors, their acting ability or comparisons with other characters/actors on the show. The mobisodes are what they are and I appreciate them whether or not my favorites are in them.
Also, I really like the idea of the sub not being the actual way people get to and from the island. It would explain some things. But I am confused about something else. Whether or not the sub was destroyed, what about the small ship the others used to leave the Hydra station (i.e., the second island) to get back to the main island. That seemed rather large. Both Jack and Juliet knew about it (they were on it). If the sub was destroyed, why wouldn't they have asked about using that ship to get off the island? Did Ben tell them they could only leave the island underwater? That would contradict what he told Michael of course. Anyway, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this boat. What do you think? Maybe this is another “missing piece” that will be covered in another Mobisode.
Saska, i believe Jack fans are legion as well. Same for Sawyer fans. And i never said Jack is the main character, so...
I was wondering, if Charlie is on the season 4 trailer, maybe we'll see a Charlie centric mobisode?
i guess when juliet said "did he?" she just meant that ben manipulated locke to blew up the sub!
i believe that when ben said to locke that before he came with the dynamites he was desparetly waiting for something to happen to stop jack and juliet to leave the island, he was telling the truth!
and he was desperate because jack and juliet was about to leave if there was no way that the sub could leave the island then he wouldnt be desperate to stop them, right?
in the ben-jack mobisode ben said he wouldnt do anthing to stop the sub but if the island doesnt want him to leave then he cant leave!
IMO before locke arrived to the othersville, ben was waiting something to happen, he was expecting that island would stop jack and juliet in some way!
i still think locke blew up the submarine!
if ben wanted to stop locke he would/could do it!
but he didnt, he thought thats what the island wanted to do!
I'm trying to figure out how all these mobisodes are connected.. I'm sure they are. Maybe by the "Letting Go" theme. Mobisode 1- Jack and Sarah... Jack have to let his divorce go... Hurley and Libby - Letting Go her Death, Michael - Letting Go The Fact that you care for his son (he thinks about himself), Jack and Ben and Julier - Letting Go that you belong somewhere else (Jack, you will be happy only on this island, don't leave it).
Yeah.. It was weird stuff i wrote.. =)))
Fantastic. Thankyou so much for posting these Mobisodes.
uh 'jack centric?'? um no, it was Juliet centric.
Jack knew pregnant women die on the island! That makes me admire him so much more than i already do, his urge to get all the losties off the island was motivated by saving Sun too.
Miramax, I doubt the Others' other boat could survive a trip to or from the island. In every instance where someone arrives on the island, disaster occurs. The plane crashes, Desmond and Rousseau's ships both crashed. I think that the 'sheild' protecting the island is only lifted during a magnetic disturbance (until the button was destroyed) , but the same disturbance causes things to crash. The submarine would have survived because its an underwater vessel. Btw, decent mobisode. Looking forward to some with characters we haven't seen yet (Locke, Sayid, Sawyer, Jin)
I'm not a liar, yes I know that people who like Jack are many, too. I guess I objected to the sentiment that we who aren't crazy about him should be pitied because we don't. I don't feel sorry for anybody who doesn't like one particular character. Lost is so much bigger than that.
I didn't say that Jack was the main character, either. :)
I get what you mean. Oh, and i don't mean sorry like i pity you, i was trying to say that Jack is such a great character (IMO) so i wish thee were no haters&etc. And yeah, Lost is much bigger than that.Sometimes it gets over my head :P!
About the main character, it was kinda implied but nvm. As long as Michael is not the main character, i'm more than ok lol
Thanks, Lost again. I appreciate your idea on this. However, I’m not sure that idea explains it since Ben sent Michael “home” on a surface boat. (But, of course, we don’t know where he sent him. I had hoped that Ben was being honest in this instance, but since Michael is returning to Lost this year, maybe not.) Even if they couldn’t use that boat, why wouldn’t Jack and Juliet at least ask about it after the sub was destroyed. (Like I said above, maybe they did and we just didn’t see it.) Lastly, was the shield being controlled by the button? If so, wouldn’t the destruction of the button bring down the shield and allow a surface ship to escape the “snow globe”? Or did the button control a strong magnetic field that had some other purpose and is separate from the island shield?
I'm not a liar, I get you now. We love Lost. That's the main thing. And caring about the characters does contribute to the enjoyment of the show. I admit that I do care about Jack at times. I felt so bad for him in the flash forward. Yeah, and there are times when the show makes my head hurt, too. :)
I'm good with anything Jack, Sawyer or Kate, as long as it doesn't involve their crappy love triangle.
I appreciate everyone posting these mobisodes and look forward to more.
That's great, glad you got my point, Saska. Lost is our drug lol! And i too admit, i care for Sawyer sometimes, i don't even hate the guy. That scene post killing Cooper, i felt so bad for Sawyer...
Let's hope for the best for our characters of our favorite show :)! I love those peaceful moments here.
I really enjoyed this mobisode. It felt like a true missing piece being filled in for us. Jack and Juliet really rock in their scenes together. I may not care for Jack that much, but at least the Chess scene and this one has him interacting with two of the more compelling characters in the show. Compared to the Frogurt guy, at least. :)
I hope we get some mobisodes of the rest of the cast, such as Locke, Sawyer and Desmond etc.
Katieb:
They aren't romantically involved yet, but the kiss she planted on him makes a little more sense now. Could be it was Juliet's way of telling Jack, "I came for Ben, but I stayed for you."
I totally agree with this. I think Juliet was lying when she said Ben was the only reason she came to camp.
I'm presuming that her reasoning as to why she decided to work for Ben again was that the Submarine escape didn't pan out. She was forced to look for a different solution and that meant playing along with Ben again.
I also believe that Juliet meant that even if Locke blew up the Sub that Ben's fingerprints were all over the execution and she suspected he was behind. However that doesn't rule out the possibility that she thinks the submarine is still intact. Though why Locke would NOT blow it up is not clear to me.
As for using the sub to sneak up on the freighter, wouldn't a freighter have pretty good sonar?
jack and juliet are both amazing
i wonder if sun will die.
hey, watch this new trailer!!!!
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3d,
Excellent post! You said it all before I could. I agree with you.
Zoriah said...
"Katieb:
They aren't romantically involved yet, but the kiss she planted on him makes a little more sense now. Could be it was Juliet's way of telling Jack, "I came for Ben, but I stayed for you."
I totally agree with this. I think Juliet was lying when she said Ben was the only reason she came to camp." -Zoriah
I also concur.
Jack - So you’re only here because he sent you here?
[PAUSE]
Juliet - Yeah.
Look at her face. She was definitely lying, and she felt affronted at the question.
Did anyone else feel like this was the scene from "The Prestige" where Scarlett Johanssen goes to Christian Bale and tells him that his enemy (Hugh Jackman) sent her to spy on him...only, that;s exactly what Hugh Jackman told her to say??
I know that movie had way too many twists and turns, but I was instantly reminded of it, as soon as Juliet started "confessing." I've got a feeling that, when all is said and done, she'll have been playing both sides against the middle all along, and this "confession" is all part of some elaborate plan, not a response to Sun's pregnancy at all.
PS - I'm glad we could squash the character-beefs. As long as the acting is top-notch and the storyline being presented is relevant (emotionally or to the plot/mythology), I'm fine.
Well, to me it was at least another real "missing" piece like the chess game. I am not quite clear what the watch was supposed to reveal or Frogurt's threat to Hurley or Juliet talking to Michael in those terms.
Hey, Dark, probably you should make a different tab for the shippers so can they can worship or slash each other's favorite character, hotness or lack thereof and the resulting love connections? :P
Juliet was rightly scared that Sayid and Sawyer were going to confront her (which they did). In true Ben fashion, she feigned intimacy and honesty to maintain Jack's trust and short-circuit her opponents (Sayid, Sawyer).
Juliet is a liar and every bit as evil as Ben. No mistake there. She has an icy core. She uses her sexuality to keep Jack doped up and in her and Ben's game.
At least at the time of this Mobisode it doesn't look like they've slept together yet. So maybe Jack isn't totally a lost cause.
It always amazes me how many people seem to put the characters into boxes of black (evil) and white (good). Every character on this show is grey and it should be appreciated IMO.
I doubt Jack would ever sleep with Juliet, I think he trusts her now, completely but I think she'll be a friend to him and not much more. He might get attached to the interest she's showing him at the moment, but I doubt he'll take it far. If anything, he wouldn't want to take avantage of her feelings.
Please let's not discriminate against the shippers again, it gets really tired. I'm a shipper and I think my opinions are as valid as any others.
I agree with Precious, the beauty of the show is that so many of the characters are complex and grey and cannot be conveniently pigeon-holed as wholly good or evil people. They're human, and have a wide range of motivations for their decisions and deeds.
I believe that while Juliet is an enigma and not to be totally trusted, we've also seen enough evidence to know that she's also a caring, compassionate, and sympathetic character who is trapped in a dire situation. I think her feelings for Jack are genuine. But only time will tell as to which one of us has the correct reading on her character. Then again they could always have her fall in love with Jack and yet still betray him in the end.
zoriah said: Then again they could always have her fall in love with Jack and yet still betray him in the end.
IMO, if the freighter people propose her an escape from the island, she'll betray both Ben and Jack.
I doubt Jack would ever sleep with Juliet, I think he trusts her now, completely but I think she'll be a friend to him and not much more. He might get attached to the interest she's showing him at the moment, but I doubt he'll take it far. If anything, he wouldn't want to take avantage of her feelings. - odul
I wouldn't be so sure about that. TPTB didn't name Jack's new love interest Juliet for nothing.
To call Juliet evil is quite disturbing considering we know her story , her entrapment by master manipulator Ben.
Yes, she has turned cold in many ways and to many people on the island, but its only up for protection. Juliet is a victim on the island. She is not necessarily part of the Others in my eyes, she was taken almost against her will, following the mysteriously timed death of her ex-husband.
I think they made Juliet an amazing character, to be trapped and scared in a place far from home, but yet adapt to this to a point to be able to play against Ben in his mind games and start to think for herself, as a warrior.
Truly inspirational character writing.