Thanks to Lyly and others for sending this to me.
Andy from San Diego: Are we going to be seeing Penny next season on Lost?
First off...17 days and counting till the premiere—thank you, Jesus! Now, for what it's worth, according to find815.com, Penelope Widmore is still involved in the search for Desmond, and her search has been connected to the crash of flight 815—her phone number shows up in a notebook belonging to Sam Thomas, the man we are following through the Find815 story. By the way, if you're a Sonya Walger fan, check your TiVo: She had a blink and you'll miss her part in last night's Terminator premiere.
Julia in San Diego: Lost! I just read somewhere that Sawyer might not make it through the season. Please save me from a true panic attack and tell me Sawyer isn't going anywhere!
Yes, Sawyer's going to be killed off in episode six, and from what I understand that will be the show's last-ever mention of the character. Audiences just never warmed up to him, and the writers realized it was best to simply give his off-putting storyline to a swift, clear-cut end. (I'm kidding. Seriously now, with all the stressing going on at tvdiva@eonline.com, I worry that you guys are all gonna give yourselves aneurysms. I promise you, if Sawyer were to eventually get killed off, which I consider unlikely in the extreme, the show would at least do it Nate Fisher style—that guy is gonna be around until the end in one way or another.)
Tom in Cleveland: I'm an old Lost fan—and by old Lost fan, I mean I'm nearing 40 years old. I have a theory that I'm hoping you might validate. If it's true, then I want to coin a new "shipper" term, too. And that's this: We'll discover that Kate's with...a Freighter! My bets are on Jeremy Davies. If so, then we have our Skaters, our Jaters and our "Keighters"!
Yeah, because it's not like there are enough people who already have a vested interest in Kate's love life! Jeez, what kind of trouble are you trying to stir up? Anyway, as far as I know, none of the boaties is getting in any of the Lostie's pantaloons, but they might be getting in their heads in a very interesting way.
Sam in Chihuahua, Mexico: Thank you so much for answering a Jacket question, we don't get as much attentions as Skate and Jate, it's really sad. So, it's hopeless to ship Jacket for season four, right?
Patience, grasshopper, until at least episode six, which is a Juliet ep. I hear you Jacketeers will like that one.
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Patience, grasshopper, until at least episode six, which is a Juliet ep. I hear you Jacketeers will like that one.
Just what I thought... let's see how it works out. :)
Didn't she say quite the opposite about Jack e Juliet? Or did she mention only the first four episodes?
Or am I half asleep?
(probably the third option)
"Or did she mention only the first four episodes?"
Yes she saied there is nothing for Jacket in the first four episodes.
"...but they might be getting in their heads in a very interesting way."
Naomi + knife + Kate?
Obviously, Sawyer won't die, Jack won't, Kate won't, Locke won't... not until the end, at least.
And Jack + Juliet is boooring, IMO. Couldn't care less for them.
"Yes, Sawyer's going to be killed off in episode six, and from what I understand that will be the show's last-ever mention of the character. Audiences just never warmed up to him, and the writers realized it was best to simply give his off-putting storyline to a swift, clear-cut end."
LOL OMG I believed that for a second!
"And Jack + Juliet is boooring, IMO. Couldn't care less for them."
I agree, of course.;-)
Juliet episode is called "The other woman", mmh...(?)
"Anyway, as far as I know, none of the boaties is getting in any of the Lostie's pantaloons, but they might be getting in their heads in a very interesting way"
Predictable.
"And Jack + Juliet is boooring, IMO. Couldn't care less for them."
I also agree \o/! They are definetly boring and won't last long (if happen), i think Juliet would make a great pairing with Sayid. I saw the sparkles in "One Of Us" hehe. I like opposites like: Desmond and Penny, Jack and Kate, Sayid and Shannon, even Rose & Bernard xP!
Of course Sawyer is not going to die this season, enough with regular deaths!
Juliet has ten times the chemistry with Jack. I'm glad the writers plan to make use of it, and extra glad that the things that will please us Jacketeers come after this I love you is supposedly addressed. Guess we can see which way it's going to be addressed. Great news! I'm seeing both triangle ships given the heave ho in episode 4. Maybe the show can breathe and focus on other great relationships for awhile.
I also love how Kristin is mocking all the silly "Sawyer's story is so over" theories and also "Kate's new man will be a frieghtie" theories. Stay real.
Im happy for Jacket!
I dont think they would actually kill Sawyer,Jack, Locke or Kate since they are the core group and with just 48 episodes in the pipeline their deaths wont achieve much.Even the wtf factor wont be achieve since its Lost and killing characters is old news
As far as Jack and Juliet go, its the most forced pairing and puts me to sleep. Sayid and Juliet would be interesrting to watch because of the grt anti-chemistry they share however what will happen to Nadia then?
Btw does Juliet goes off the island acc to spoilers? I thought she is left behind but not sure.
Jack and Juliet only seems to put rabid Jack and Kate fans to sleep, I've noticed. Not as if there's any bias there LOL!
I'm ecstatic that this positive development comes after whatever happens in episode 4. It completes my theory that both Jate and Skate ships are going to get trashed in one way or another in that episode. I don't think either of those ships will be able to gloat afterwards. And it will be fun to finally see some other relationships, even though sadly it will all be cut short. But sounds like at least Jacket will be left in a good place, coming so close to the cut off.
Funny, Jack and Kate scenes don't only put me to sleep. They are even painful to watch IMO because of the awkwardness between the actors.
Anyways, nothing against Kristin Veitch but could she also answer some non-romantic questions for a change? I should have known that she wouldn't answer my Ben+Juliet question anyway. That is one of the most fascinating relationships on the whole show.
"Jack and Juliet only seems to put rabid Jack and Kate fans to sleep, I've noticed. Not as if there's any bias there LOL!"
Jack and Juliet seems so "great and awww and squeee, woooo"(sorry for these expressions...lol)to Skaters, I noticed.;-)
Well, I like their interaction, but not romantically...
And precious, Matt and Evie have an amazing chemistry, in evey kind of scene.
And maybe you see their scenes as awkward because there's always romantic tension there(between Jack and Kate)and not a buddy vibe.
God... another ship war has begun. Me getting outta here right now.
@precious:
because of the awkwardness between the actors.
In the sense that there's some sexual tension between the two characters? Oh yeah, I'd say a lot of it.
But I'd say also between the actors, without assuming other stuff.
There can be charming people around that one could meet in life and work with and this is their case.
Also they have an amazing on-screen/off-screen chemistry, you can see this also in many interviews/pics (evi at the beginning was also a bit flirty to be honest but I think it's her personality). It's really obvious, but if you want to deny also this, ok, let's deny it!
Matt and Evie have an amazing chemistry is simply one person (a rabid Jater's) opinion. It's not a fact. I find them not only dull, but laughable. It's all subjective. I don't get romantic tension from their scenes. Whether its the acting or the writing, I just get extreme discomfort and lack of authenticity. But that's an opinion also. We can't state our opinions as objective fact. Jaters should stop trying to push their own opinions down other people's throats.
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I don't know why you're getting upset so easily.
And I'm not posting further explanations to my post, it's all there.
But I guess it's smthg cultural.
I say that this chemistry thing is smthg that often happens in real life (well, probably not to some of you, I assumed you'd understand but you obviously don't) and you cry because it's sick.
Who's interested in shipping two actors?! I don't even care about their partners! I wish them a whole lot of joy but it's their personal life, they can do whatever they want!
I was making a general comment, some actor have a good chemistry because, IMO, they also get on well in real life.
Nobody's assuming anything, nobody's having affairs with anyone, but I guess you all belong to a different world than mine.
These things between normal, standard, adult human beings happen without having to get upset.
I don't understand why you have to make my post look as sick.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and stuff like who has better chemistry etc is extremely subjective. There is no right or wrong way to watch lost or ship and since we are a diverse bunch, opinions would be diverse. No need to go into attack mode.
Calling someone a rabid jater doesnt make your opinion correct Gary. Refrain from making personal comments and concentrate on your ship rather than the opposite shipper.
Lol!
I was probably replying to smthg Dark has deleted ! Some insults :)
But I think that I've learned my lesson well, I'll remind myself of these huge cultural gap and just keep quiet!
Dark: i did not bash anyone on my last comment. I just wanted to say that there's got to be good judgement on both sides.
Thanks in advance for your attention ;)
rabid!! hahaha! LMAO!!!
Dark, you could have left that, seriously!
I'm half asleep in front of my computer with a terrible cold so I wouldn't think as myself of RABID but you never know!
I really haven't seen any sign that Matt and Evie are friends in real life. Doesn't Evie always go out of her way to say Josh is her best friend in the cast. You can even hear and see it on their DVD commentaries. They seem the best of friends, teasing one another and having lots of inside jokes. Aside from the cringeworthy pre-season one promotions, where poor Evie was a total beginner, I've hardly ever seen Matt or Evie even discuss one another.
So I guess what you're saying then is that the famous chemistry between Josh and Evie that everyone comments on is because they're such good friends in real life? OK, that I understand. Maybe that's why Elizabeth and Matt have such good chemistry also. They seem to go out of their way to praise one another in interviews lately, so maybe they are also good friends. Makes sense I guess when you look at it that way!
I remember Evie also gave an interview over the summer where she said the characters interactions mirror the way they interact on set and she said "I've always had to play submissive to Matthew Fox". She used the actors name not the character, I remember, and I thought it was odd. But now that you mention it that would explain why they have that unpleasant dominant/submissive vibe that so many of us can't stand to watch. It reflects her real life resentment of how she has to act around him in real life.
I am seeing your point now Elisabeta. Sorry for missing it before!
@gary, don't worry, I never get upset, only occasionally! I'm very laid-back! I accept all kind of comments!
Plus, I never get upset/mad when I'm talking to virtual people during my lunchbreak on the Internet, come on, it's only Lost :)
In fact, it's LOST, not Evie hates Matt and loves Josh pappappero!
Please, let's change subject, ok?
Do you remember LOST, yeah?...;-P
How did a Jacket spoiler become about Matthew and Evie? I'm sure they get along just fine, they seem to. And chemistry off screen doesn't always resonate on screen, but either way I think people should leave the actors out of it.
Having said that, YAY for a Jacket spoiler, makes me smile.
lol @ elisabetta
"I never get upset, only occasionally!"
Maybe you need to bust out the old english-italian dictionary.
KATE & SAYID!!
FREIGHTOR & KATE = FATE
I am happy. Finally a good Jacket spoiler. I am going to enjoy the episode. YAY.
thanks for posting.
@matt- Okay now we are giving english lessons on this thread too?
@iorwon- dont you know everything becomes abt Fox on this site :) Some ppl cannot let go off the fascination with the guy. Good call by ABC to make him the lead!
So, the "him" is not a freighter, huh?
I don't think is Sayid. Didn't we get the spoilers that he would be in Germany and his new love interest is a girl named Elsa? Unless it was a hoax.
A child? She is free because somebody has interests in her child? Mittelos Bioscience?
Don't know...
God, please Lost, STOP with the romance drama! First it was SawyerKateJack. Then it was JackAnaLuciaSawyerKate, which then turned to JackKateSawyerAnaLucia. Then it was back to JackKateSawyer. Then it was SawyerKate. Then it was JackJuliet and JackKateSawyer.
Please. You're making my head hurt. STOP WITH THE LOVE TRAINGLES.
@matt
I don't understand, honestly...We say the same in Italian...what's wrong?! it was an oxymoron!
never vs occasionally...did I misspell it? probably!
Maybe him is actually a parole officer or someone powerful from Oceanic who somehow was involved in the cover up.
I know a lot of ppl think Aaron or Sawyers child but that doesn't make sense to me. When Kate says "he would be wondering..." it felt she was a little scared and even the "him:" in spoilers has more ominous connotations.
How could a cute little baby wield so much power on Kate and Jack?
jack/juliet spoilers FINALLY!
I am also curious if Juliet would be in flash-forwards. I think if she is off the island she would try to run away from Ben and all his cronies. She doesn't really want to do anything with the island and wants to be reunited with her sister.
It will be rather heart-breaking to see Juliet still stuck in the crap hole island as she is someone who actually has something to look forward to in the real world and has been quite lonely on the island. I think even with Goodwin it was a relationship of convenience as she really got over him rather quickly!
What ticks me off is that Kristin (who I personally think is a tool, sorry guys), but anyways, what ticks me off is that the implication is yet again given that Sawyer's untouchable.....furthering my "core four" belief......TPTB=Fudpuckers.....not that I want him to die, I'd much prefer Kate or Jack (and if Juliet dies, party at my house!) but whatever happened to TPTB's claims when they firsted started killing off Losties that "noone is safe"...oh yeah, they're a couple of FREAKING LIARS.....
J J, why oh why did you have to leave us?!?!?
Of course TPTB are liars. Look at poor Charlie.
@Ahrean2007
I always assumed they'd all die eventually, sort of like Ten Little Indians, they'd just be picked off one by one. Including Jack.
I wouldn't get too overworked by anything Kristen says.
No kidding save, although technically that was a promise that J J made and since he left after Season One, guess that promise flew out the door, as did the concept of this being an ensemble cast of equal characters....
And iorwen, I hear you totally, not to offend Kristen fans but I've always thought of her as a major tool....
So happy that Jack and Juliet will have moments together :) And that it comes after Kate and Jack deal with own stuff...I'm guessing Kate is choosing Sawyer yet again.
Kristen can be a major tool but she is also pretty harmless. Anyways dont put too much faith in what she says esp when she gives vague spoilers or blind items.
JJ left the show? I dont understand.You mean to say he no longer give his inputs to the writers? Isnt he still credited?
tanya palta said: I am also curious if Juliet would be in flash-forwards.
Goodwin, Etham and Tom will be in her episode, so a FB.
Personally I want her to get stuck in that island. Evil woman.
save_the_hobbit said: God, please Lost, STOP with the romance drama!
I agree, but the problem is all the spoilers we are getting are about romance/drama.
I think it would be nice if Kristin weren't bashed here either. She's a "tool"? She's also one of Damon Lindelof's very best friends, and far, far more likely to be in the loop than any other spoiler source.
The Juliet/Jack spoiler is great news, especially as a confirmation that Jack and Kate end up badly in episode 4. Glad we aren't facing a seasonal arc of that!
There's some really good info here.
I'm glad to hear that Kate won't be getting it on with a freightie. And that revelation only makes the identity of her "he" all the more mysterious. Whoever "he" turns out out to be, his motive for helping her will be much more interesting if it has nothing to do with a romantic interest.
And I am glad to hear that there is more to come for Jack and Juliet this season. I always love Juliet centric episodes and to know that this one might include a little more flirting or romance only makes it all the more interesting IMO. And speaking of opinions, I think that Juliet makes Jack a much more interesting character. It's like she alone has the power to melt away his aura of arrogance and condescension with her simple presence. She is his equal on every level (age, social status, education, etc). I find them to be a very intriguing pair!
Exactly, southernbeauty. The last thing I've ever found romantic or sexy is the unequal dynamic Jack has with Kate. Juliet and Jack is so appealing because he can't dominate her. I'm SO glad it's being developed.
Dark, should I not say what I said about kristen? If u don't want her bashed I won't.
Veronique, no offense intended.
Can't blame you, ahrean. It's always been tolerated that she can be disparaged. I have no idea why. She's far and away the most connected spoiler source we have. Just because she can't say all she knows doesn't mean she knows nothing. Damon Lindelof went to her wedding for goodness sake! And they socialize very regularly. She doesn't always give good details, but I think everyone should realize she has the best bead on what's going on behind the scenes.
To say she annoys me would be an understatement, lol. I guess it's the way she doles it out but it's subjective and the way I interpret it and bears nothing on who she is. Plus, no offense to Damon, but he is half of the current TPTB and I bear a lot of ill will towards them.
Thnks mne. I was a little confused abt the spoilers and assuming that Juliet gets off the island.
That being said how will the writers now develop Jacket on the island? I am assuming Jack will get off the island soon after the freighters arrive so when will he get time to develop a romantic relationship with Juliet? Esp after the ILY to Kate.
Even if Jack is rejected by Kate on the island I dont think he will run to Juliet. He would say fuck it, I didnt get any action on the island for 3 months its better I try my luck off the island :)
Also didnt Ausiello mention a lack of Jacket in his recent spoilers and told them to rewatch the finale to see who initiated the kiss?
Also why are we getting only shipping spoilers? This coming from a shipper!
Not to start an argument here but Kristen shouldn't be bashed because she is Damons Friend? Then that argument should also hold true for Fox and even Josh since they are Damon's friends too.
When I started reading about Sawyer's fate, I believed it - glad it's not true. ^^
I didn't say she shouldn't be bashed for being Damon's friend. Just that her close friendship should be considered before trashing her spoilers.
Kristin told us Jack's ILY would be addressed. Between this spoiler and the fact that we've been told Jate ends badly in ep. 4 it looks like that addressing will not be a good thing for Jate. So things should be cleared for Jacket to begin. Though I agree, they'll probably have little time to do much with it. Looks like romantic couples are being separated, in preparation for those sweeps month reunions in coming seasons.
Tanya, thank you!!! To say I'm sick of shipper news would be an understatement.
as a jater i can say that i like the interaction between jacket i also love juliet and i think juliet is just like sawyer; she has great chemistry with all the actors on lost! i love sawyer-juliet, juliet-sun, juliet-kate, juliet-jack, juliet-ben, juliet-sayid interactions so far (i even loved the juliet-hurley interaction even they only shared one scene so far) and i believe its because of juliet's character!
i also love the way jacket scenes affects kate! i mean all those scene were there for some other secret reason (not that it's a big secret) and the reason is, to show their interaction to the viewers in kate's pov... kate was watching them in the football scene, and she also witnessed their conversation and smiles in the TMFT before she walked in jack's house, when juliet said "we should go" in the game room scene kate's reaction was perfect (in jatewise), she was there when jack and juliet were eating together which made her cry, she witnessed their kiss with angry-jealous eyes, she even dislocated her shoulder :))) she didnt see the aloe scene but its understandable since she wasnt even on the same island!
and jacketeers will like the episode doesnt mean jacket will hookup... it might be some other scene where jack would show his trust to juliet one more time and it would be a projacket scene and jacketeers would like it!
I'm guessing that with just eight (supposedly action packed) episodes in the can, that this may be the last of the shipper spoilers for a while. I can't imagine that there is really much more to left to reveal.
Not to start an argument here but Kristen shouldn't be bashed because she is Damons Friend?
TBH, no one should be getting 'bashed', I think people should keep their stronger feelings to themselves. These comment boxes keep getting turned into Jate/Skate arguments, Jaters and Skaters, can't you just get along... ^^
@veronica: if adressing will not be a good thing then why is it going to be adressed more than once... i mean if kate just says "im sorry jack i dont love you" there wouldnt be any need for another scene where the ILY will be adressed!
oh and who says the jacket scene will be a romantic one?
how about a nice chat near the firelights about getting off the island and what will they do when they get off that place?
what im saying is the scene that would make jacketeers like it, doesnt have to be necessarily a romantic scene!
and hasnt auselio said that ppl should just watch the jacket kiss again and see who initiated the kiss one more time... it was juliet not jack and that might be a hint that jack wont show any kind of romantic interest to juliet and they will keep being friends!
"Kristin told us Jack's ILY would be addressed. Between this spoiler and the fact that we've been told Jate ends badly in ep. 4 it looks like that addressing will not be a good thing for Jate."
Just for the record, Jack and Kate have romantic scenes in the FF, but then things end badly, IN THE FF(as the spoilers say), so it has nothing to do wiyh addressing the ILY, that will happen on island.
Talking about chemistry,
Nobody usually mentions it, but one of the best chemistry of the show is the one shared between Josh Holloway and Matthew Fox (in my opinion).
The other one is between Michael Emerson and Terry O'Quinn.
But if we talk about female/male chemistry, I think that Michelle Rodriguez had a really great chemistry with Naveen, Josh and Matthew.
1. We don't know the ILY will be addressed on the island. That was never said. We know of no romantic Jate on the island and I don't expect any.
2. Ausiello's spoiler about who initiated the Jacket kiss was referring to the first 4 episodes, not this one.
3. Jacketeers would not be happy with a non romantic Jacket scene. Just like Jaters, what makes them happy is romance. Kristin knows this, and of course that's what she's implying.
And precious, Matt and Evie have an amazing chemistry, in evey kind of scene.
And maybe you see their scenes as awkward because there's always romantic tension there(between Jack and Kate)and not a buddy vibe. - agelessbeauty
In the sense that there's some sexual tension between the two characters? Oh yeah, I'd say a lot of it. But I'd say also between the actors, without assuming other stuff. There can be charming people around that one could meet in life and work with and this is their case. Also they have an amazing on-screen/off-screen chemistry, you can see this also in many interviews/pics (evi at the beginning was also a bit flirty to be honest but I think it's her personality). It's really obvious, but if you want to deny also this, ok, let's deny it!
Romantic or sexual tension between Jack & Kate? When? When Jack yells at her and she starts to cry? I'm not the only person who sees no chemistry between Jack and Kate and only awkwardness and indisposition. Just take a look at TWOP.com. And why is everyone suddenly jumping at me because I dared to say that Jack and Kate scenes are painful to watch. That was my opinion. Some people are far too sensitive.
And fans of Jack's should be happy. Maybe their hero will get laid on the island after all (although I think that no woman deserves that fate, not even Ana-Lucia ;) ).
@ ahrean2007 Of course TPTB are liers. It's quite obvious by now. They said that we would get back to the people in the arctic at the end of season 3 and it never happened.
They said they would get back to the numbers and the four-toed statue in season 3 and it never happened. They said that they would be done with the triangle after I do and what happened? They made it even worse by taking away Kate's spine and damaging her beyond repair. Want me to give you even more examples or is that enough?
jacob's chair i totally agree with you! jawyer is love :D
well im expecting to see at least one romantic scene between jate on the island! the promo pic where kate was touching his face doesnt look like a friendly gesture to me- unless you are touching all your mates faces like that and look their eyes just like kate was looking into jacks eyes in that pic :)))
and for the auselio spoiler- yeah he was talking about the first 4 episodes when he said there wont be any good jacket scenes will happen in the first 4 episodes but then he just said the one who inititated the kiss might be a hint as to why jacket wont share some romantic scenes...so i take it as, the reason why there wont be anything significant happen between jacket is because jack doesnt have a romantic interest to juliet like she has to jack!
I took it to mean Jack doesn't show any romantic interest in Juliet in the first 4 episodes either. But Jack rarely shows any romantic interest in any women, so that doesn't mean anything. Sounds like that changes in episode 6.
Face it,Jacket fans are NOT going to be happy if Juliet is debased the way Kate has been, running after Jack and being rejected. The whole appeal of Juliet and Jack is the equality and finally getting to see a woman on this show treated with some respect. It's pretty clear there will be reciprocal romance, or NO Jacket fans would enjoy it. The last thing they want is to see their favorite woman character treated the way poor Kate has been treated by these writers.
You're all assuming that Jack and Juliet are going to have some romantic scene in present time, but what if we're going to see what Jack was really up to that week he spent in Othersville. ; )
I agree with whoever said Matt and Josh have great chemistry. Jack and Sawyer are so much more fun to watch than any of the romantic pairings although Jack, Juliet and Ben trying to one up each other while he was their prisoner were some of the best Lost scenes to date.
Jack, Juliet and Ben trying to one up each other while he was their prisoner were some of the best Lost scenes to date. - katieb
I totally agree here. That was the best triangle I have ever seen on this show. Much more fascinating and interesting than the Jack-Kate-Sawyer stuff. I guess it's because it had nothing to do with romance. It was 3 people trying to manipulate and outplay each other. More of that please (and less of the love triangle)!
I also wanted to write a short comment on the sudden push for a Sayid/Juliet pairing in this comment section. If TPTB suddenly decide to have Juliet run into Sayid's arms for whatever reason, they would turn the Juliet character into a Kate 2.0. Nobody wants to watch something like that.
Oh god please give me strength to withstand another jate vs skate debate.
Leave it be guys, Skaters will hate Jate, Jaters will hate Skate blah blah blah.
We won't agree but we will disagree. Lets give some respite to the non-shippers who for good reason think we hijack even non-ship threads and turn them abt us.
That said I am going to make a resolution not to espouse the virtues of Jate or make my misgivings abt Skate public on Dark! Ship in peace and enjoy the show/ship as we have 3 years more to go and no point imploding in act 2!
Precious, ITA on the Sayid/Juliet thing.......if TPTB do that to me my head will explode. ENOUGH WITH THE ROMANTIC TRIANGLES!!!!
Trust me, I don't want to offend shippers, that's your thing and you run with it but as Tanya said, my goodness, it's enough, seriously.
But again, Sayid/Juliet is nauseating. Sayid is my man, I loathe Juliet with a passion reserved for few, they already killed off my other man Charlie.....so that would totally ruin the show for me, second to Sayid dying.
i guess you're right tanya... its better to let go of the endless shipper debate!
we can all agree to disagree so lets wait, watch and see..
Let Juliet concentrate on going back to her sister and not Sayid.
Anyways its highly unlikely Juliet and Sayid will pair. Juliet is on the island and Sayid off. Also juliet is more interested in being reunited with her sister .
Even if she makes it off the island, I dont think she would want to hang out with the island bunch. Juliet may be doing Ben's dirty work, but in the end she did show her only interest lies in getting off the island and has no loyalties.
Anyways Kristen says "she hears" which means she hasn't seen the episode . Which means we are unnecessarily concentrating our energies on Kristen. Which means we are all suffering from the "lack of lost" syndrome".
According to Dark UFO on a different site, Kristin has already seen all 8 episodes.
mmm can Dark confirm this? Cos when Kristen says " I hear you Jacketeers will like that one", it implies she hears and hasnt seen it and cannot confirm it.
He said it in one of his many posts at FBL. I'm sure Kristin's phrasing is just her way of keeping the mystery. She can't come out and say things directly.
am I the only one that is sick of all the mixing of names? Jate and Skate were bad enough but seriously . . . Jacketeers and Keighters?! . . . ugh
Ah, criminey! There's goes my "Keigther" tag!
... I'll have to think of something new.
And by 40, I meant turning 38 ... :)
If anybody can watch the 'Are we really going home?' scene from the 4:01 preview and claim that the chemistry between Jack and Kate is anything other than awkward to watch...then I salute them.
Personally, I've seen more chemistry between a pair of boots.
Really intrigued by the 'getting in their heads in a very interesting way' bit. The Losties made to endure room 213 courtesy of the freighter peeps perhaps?
Room 23, my bad :)
I've seen more chemistry between a pair of boots.
I want this pair! Where can I get one? ;)
Love Jak and Kate dynamics. Their awkwardness is what makes them so sweet. When they get together it's going to be very emotional. Can't wait for it!!!
Jacket is plain predictable. No tension at all.
"Get in their heads"
Does it have to do something with Jorge's and Foxy's haircuts?
I read all the scripts available some time ago, now I don't have the time to give you all the indications but if you didn't see it on-screen, it's also here, in the scripts.
I just copied and pasted smthg I put in my blog months ago, and these are only a few examples of a few scripts:
Page 1+2 (teaser), Page 15, Page 31, Page 47
http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/104_risingsun_green.pdf
Page 16, 17, 41.
http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/101_tabula_rasa.pdf
I don't know how you couldn't/can't see what the authors wrote and what the actors performed so well! Honestly!
I take your point elisabetta...but the dialogue between Jack in Kate on Lost is trite at best :( The 'because I love you' scene from 'Through the looking glass' is cringeworthy.
It's abundantly clear that the writer's strengths lay somewhere other than soap opera dynamics. Mystery, intrigue & suspense for example :)
Not to mention the fact that Evangeline Lily is a pretty poor actress at the best of times...although with a strong emphasis on pretty ;)
Jack AND Kate. My bad...my very very bad lol ;)
@theloneassassin:
I agree, the ILY scene was really appalling, I think I only watched it once during the finale and then I tried to forget about it!
Everyone knows that the show is not focussed on romantic dynamics, but in order to get rid of all these different points of view in the audience (way too different, IMO!) I guess we should read all the scripts of all the 3 seasons to find a general unbiased agreement on the ships! Even if obviously, they're not the core part of the show.
Jack in kate!! lol, I only read it now! I liked it :)
I think they call that a 'Freudian slip' right? Maybe I do want Jack and Kate to be together afterall heh heh :D
My God, I'm a Jater ;)
exactly! you did not know it until your subconscious let it slip!
Thank you Elisabetta for helping me see the light ;)
Now I need to wander off and come to terms with this..
" Jack in Kate "
TheLoneAssassin, you made my day! Srsly :))))
But it's not your day, obviously, with all the typos)) LOL
I'm happy for the Jacket news, and for the news of Sawuer not dying. I think that Jack and Juliet are a good pairing, but may be better off as friends. I just love the chemistry! Matthew and Elizabeth work fabuslosly together, and I like Jacket mainly becuase they act so great together!:) IMO.
If the wild rumours about a suicide off-island are true, Jack-Juliet might be short lived. But then, who knows, it's Lost.
(I'm sure I commented in this thread last night, and now the comment has mysteriously vanished.... weird)
"don't know how you couldn't/can't see what the authors wrote and what the actors performed so well! Honestly!"
Elisabetta,dude that scripts are from SEASON 1 now it will be season 4 many things has changed.
@lost_love
those are the ones available (there are also a couple from S2 where Jack comes back from a trip in the jungle w. Ana Lucia and Kate dies of jelousy - this is what the authors wrote, not me) but I'm looking forward to reading Season 2:'the net' scene, 'the I'm not sorry' scene, the 'I'll come back for you' scene just to name a few ones.
Once we read them all, we'll discuss!
@lost_love
exactly!!
I'm really looking forward to reading them! Besides the ships, I love reading scripts! Also movies' scripts!
Does anyone inside the 'industry' know how long it will take for them to be released?! and who releases them?
@lost_love
those are the ones available (there are also a couple from S2 where Jack comes back from a trip in the jungle w. Ana Lucia and Kate dies of jelousy - this is what the authors wrote, not me) but I'm looking forward to reading Season 2:'the net' scene, 'the I'm not sorry' scene, the 'I'll come back for you' scene just to name a few ones."
Yes im also looking forward to see the script's for the Skate kiss in "GB". for their "You taste like strawberry scne".Im looking forward to see the script for the love scene in "I DO".Im looking forward to see the script for their cuddling in "I DO",Im looking forward to see the script for their missing looks for each other on episode 10.Im looking forward to see the script for their sweet hug in "One of Us".But you are right when we will read all the scripts we will discuss!.
"Does anyone inside the 'industry' know how long it will take for them to be released?! and who releases them?"
For what for the scripts?
yes!
I think in Flashforwards and they didn't mention about Juliet. Just JATE!
By the way, Jack and Juliet are big friends and Jack like her but he LOVE Kate!
I don't know how you couldn't/can't see what the authors wrote and what the actors performed so well! Honestly! - elisabetta
That's the problem with Jack and Kate for me. It was written in the scripts but the actors just weren't able to get it across. I just don't see it and believe me, I'm not one of those people who fast forwards the scenes I don't like. Nothing against Matt and Evi. They are both good actors but they just don't click IMO.
Please, Jaters and skaters have seen different shows!
I'm JATER and I see much chemistry between Jack and Kate and I don't like Sawyer and Kate.
It's a personal point of view!
I love Jater's moments, they have a legendary history. So sweet, so different than skate but it doesn't mean that one is better than other. They are two sides of the triangle, just that!
@precious
At last I find a Skater (hope I'm not making a mistake!) who has read the scripts and agree w. me that Jate/OTP, was written and created by the authors! Thank God!
IMO, it was clear even without reading the scripts but they are the only unbiased source we have!
And you have your personal point of view, you can't see any chemistry in the actors, it's your opinion and I fully respect it.
"Jate/OTP, was written and created by the authors"
Well we will see if Jate is the OTP.Because i think the produsers set up Skate as the OTP of the show.And because of that they will be not together for one or two years,as in all great love storyes,and that will make their reunion even stronger!.But we will see what will happen in the end.
Spoiler pic of Kate & new beau in unmistakable embrace from early S4. May relate to a certain Ausiello riddle. Doesn't strike me as off-camera footage. Kate is probably wearing same top as in Looking Glass episode. If you must know: http://bp2.blogger.com/_J_dU7CHa5Rc/R2xyCClckLI/AAAAAAAAAdE/W8FI8Ir_jj8/s1600-h/Eviorginal.jpg
here's another view of the info from the previous link:
http://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/2007/12/this-is-him-that-kate-talked-about-in.html
Doc, that's from Evi's new film Afterwards. Nothing to do with Lost I'm afraid.
Im a "skater" i guess as i much prefer sawyer and kate together. I would love for them to be together in the end.
However i do believe from day 1 jack and kate were meant to be the romantic interest type couple. and i think if any of them end up together it will be jack and kate.
Not my preferred choice at all but i can see why they would do it like that.
i have to say though that I just want the triangle to end now though either way.
Well since this is Skate vs Jate,i will say that im a Skater.I think they love each other a lot.I think one day Kate will realise that she loves Sawyer,but i hope isn't gona be to late!.But anyway nobody knows what will happen in the end.Maybe she will end up with Jack,maybe with Sawyer,or maybe she will end up with nobody at the end.
I think the writers began with setting up Jate as OTP and now...there is no OTP.
They're fucking with us and will continue to do it till the end. (Remember when they said Season 3/Episode 6 would demonstrate Kate's choice once and for all?) It's really ridiculous.
Although I do tend to lean towards Skate, I strongly believe Kate will end up with no one in the end. And probably not by choice since god knows she can't make one.
I hope they don't pull Juliet into this triangle crap. They'll do to her what they did to the character of Kate and she's too awesome for that.
I think Sawyer\Kate have more chemistry then Jack\Kate.But i don't care about this stupid Jate\Skate debate,because im not a snipper,.And i don't care if Kate end's up with Jack or Sawyer.
I think Kate ends up with Aaron, in a mommy sort of way.
as a jater i believe jack and kate will end up together but i also want the triangle to end at any price so sometimes i just feel like "whatever! i just want it to end" *sighs*
Okay I was reading the above comments and I'd like to say something on the fact that I am not only a Jater but also a Jacketer and a Matthew/Evie fan, Gary, you may think it's an opinion but your wrong especially on the part where you stated that Evie TRIES to act like Josh and her are better friends because I'm pretty sure in MANY interviews it was Matt she mentioned.
ALSO the rumors of Matthew cheating on his wife, which weren't true, but anyway, were with whom!? Evie. So please, don't act all high and mighty as though you understand them when you've never met them and you APPARENTLY haven't done your research.
I'm a HUGE Matthew Fox and Evangeline Lilly fan, as actors not as a couple, and I've seen EVERY interview they've EVER done and I heard her mention NOTHING about Josh but quite a bit about Foxy and your submissive comment isn't true as well.
The only thing I've heard said about Josh is that it's like her little brother and Matt is like her big brother.
This is a touchy subject for many and I understand you are entitled to your love couple on LOST but don't lie about something they've said in real life.
mmmmmkaY?