Here is AICN's take on tonights episode.
* This week’s flash-forwards belong to (a maternal) Kate Austen.
* We’ll learn why Kate’s hinder isn’t languishing in stir.
* Beardless Jack Shephard turns up in Los Angeles.
* These are the last flash-forwards until 4.7, said to be the last episode before the multi-week break.
* John Locke will release Ben Linus from the rec room.
* The captive Miles will make a deal with the less-captive Kate.
* Over a box of Dharma vino, Kate will make a eyebrow-raising proposal to James Ford.
* Jack, Juliet, Dan and C.S. Lewis will be informed that the helicopter carrying Sayid, Desmond, Frank and Naomi did not get where it was going.
* We may learn how a major cast member – one introduced in the series pilot – meets his or her untimely demise. (Hint: It’s not Rose.)
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so 'demise' is gonna be wierd huh
"We may learn how a major cast member – one introduced in the series pilot – meets his or her untimely demise. (Hint: It’s not Rose.)"
Huh? Who dies...?
dark, will we be getting a synopsis or not???? because i know a few sysnopsis's have come out earlier...im just wondering if your source Post-Produxtion will be doing one
dark, will we be getting a synopsis or not???? because i know a few sysnopsis's have come out earlier...im just wondering if your source Post-Produxtion will be doing one
We've already done one about 3 weeks ago :)
In the synopsis from a few weeks ago, there was no mention of someone's demise....or am I way too tired right now?
cheers dark
juicy!
Well, weren't Darlton going on about Eggtown having a "Killer" ending? That would be it, I guess...
im so pumped for tonight! im gunna pick up some wine in a box and raise my eyebrow!
We’ll learn why Kate’s hinder isn’t languishing in stir - what in the hell does that mean
im so pumped for tonight! im gunna pick up some wine in a box and raise my eyebrow!
LMAO!!
ROLF!!!
:D
It means we'll find out why Kate isn't in jail. LOL
I am so psyched for this episode. Kate and Sawyer pull a con together and it's all sexy-time afterward. Woo-hoo!
OMG!! so the flash backs will return....
Probably it means that in the FF they mention a character's death. Like Kate: "hey Jack, remember when Locke died?" It won't be Locke, but I bet it will be like that.
"hinder isn’t languishing in stir."
What does that mean?
well anyone who has read the spoilers/synopsis can assume who it's gonna be.. if you can count 1+1..well you don't even need to do that..it's so obvious
:)
I've read Post Produxtion's Eggtown info and it doesn't tell you as much as ye olde InsiderScoop did. There's less detail. But from the ending of PP's info, I think it's pretty obvious who the major cast member will be.
everything (except the "demise" part) in that AICN synopsis can be deduced from watching the "sneak peak" vids from earlier in the week and watching the preview from last week.
I understand and did indeed see the synopsis that was posted three weeks ago Dark, but I unfortunately had issues seeing it (and judging by other comments, I wasn't the only one). All I got was a blank white screen. Can anyone clue me in? I know...I know, can't wait the measly few hours before the show tonight?! Of course not...otherwise I wouldn't be a constant reader here! LOL
Well, as for the "demise," I wouldn't say we learn HOW. Based on the PP info, I gather that the ending suggests that something has happened to someone, but not necessarily a "demise" or how i may have happened. Dark do you know if there is more to it besides the info we've been given?
I think a lot of people are buying flowers for someone who won't be in a grave for some time yet ;)
We may learn how a major cast member meets his or her untimely demise.
In one hand, with this "may",I think that they say that the episode will make us think that he/she is dead, but this person could still be alive.
In the other hand, this "how" cofuses me. Are we going to know how but not the result? And all this in a Kate centric episode? It doen's make sense, in my opinion.
Somehow everything doesn't add up.
I'm more confused after reading this than before. That last line is killing me. May learn? I hope we do learn, because I have no clue who it is.
I think its gonna be Sawyer. I hope not!!!
After being spoiled on the ending to Eggtown I hope hope hope that that ending was a foiler and they're actually going to show an alternative ending... but I'm not getting my hopes up!
I would almost bet one of my 2 children that the "demise" character is a mis-direction. I read the PP spoiler and that to me is a set up. I believe it is someone else...My theory is Jin!
"We’ll learn why Kate’s hinder isn’t languishing in stir."
Who the hell writes like this?
Maybe it has something to do with Michael!
Ok you know what, I think this guy is confused. He probably saw the ending of Episode 4 (those who have read the spoilers know what I am talking about) and assumed that a certain character is dead. We, however, know that we're simply being misled. I won't say more because I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read spoilers, but those who have know exactly who I'm talking about...
I just tried to re-watch/read the synopsis for the episode. It appears to be removed?
I think the way the 6 got off the island was by unexplainable time/space travel. The Oceanic 6 don't know how they got off the island. That's why Jack flies Oceanic all the time.
Michael is in the coffin. It's got to be him!
I think Ben is in the coffin. I was just reading the interview Cuse-Lindelof and they claim that there hints to who is in the coffin throughout Season 4. what better hint do you need than Ben having left the island?
"* We may learn how a major cast member – one introduced in the series pilot – meets his or her untimely demise."
Well if we're "learning" about a character's demise (as opposed to seeing it), then it will be done through Kate's flash-forward.
So here is my thinking. It will turn out to be Sawyer, and it will come out in Kate's trial somehow. But Sawyer won't actually be dead, even at that point in the future, because it will turn out to be a hoax or a con.
That is my thinking.
Oh, and I think that perhaps we, the audience, will probably be led to believe that Sawyer's death is the real deal, until a later episode where it proves to be false.
Time will tell.
I doubt it's Ben in the coffin. With all his aliases, it's unlikely Jack would have just stumbled upon a funeral announcement of him in the paper.
Perhaps the 'demise' explained is of the US Marshall Edward Mars.
"why Kate’s hinder isn’t languishing in stir"
It's a very odd way of phrasing "why Kate's ass ain't in jail".
hinder = rear (also a really $hitty band)
stir = jail
ooooh, i love the kate and sawyer long con thing. that sounds cool. but i don't think that's it.
it's probably about a girl. it's probably has to do with why kate is maternal now. got it?
If Ben took them off the island there's a very good chance that the Oceanic 6 were informed of his death. Sayid works for him but who's to say the other 5 still don't have ties to him. It would definitely explain the "neither friend nor family" and the fact that Kate wouldn't go to his funeral.
I'm not sure I should say this but I'm under the impression that AICN was confused by the finale of the episode and thought that in order for this to be happening a certain character must have died. I assume there will be a lot more people who will come up with the same theory tonight. But who knows, that character might die afterall.
if Sawyer's death was mentioned at the trial Post produxion would have told us. That's really big news.
It might randomly be Bernard...? The facts were these (I miss Pushing Daisies ha ha):
-Rose introduces him in the series pilot.
-Everyone from the tail section is dead or captured... except him.
-The "It's not Rose," might have been a clue... like "It's not Rose, it's Bernard."
-He's not THAT major, but he has been part of the ensemble cast for a while... longer than Ana-Lucia or Libby.
Personally, I don't think it's him... but he's definitely someone to consider I think.
I'm pretty sure I know which Lostie AICN is talking about because I'm pretty much completely spoiled... but I think heavy emphasis should be placed on MAY. Death is a logical explanation for what happens I guess.
cronikeys, you said you're completely spoiled. does that mean you know something that hasn't been posted on this website? If so is the person AICN referring to the one I think it is (I think they were confused by the episode's ending)?
it's a gurl who's demised.
@me -
I know everything that was posted on this site and on the spoilers page at Lostpedia. I said I'm "pretty much completely spoiled," which is far,far away from completely spoiled when it comes to Lost. :)
The person AICN is referring to is probably who you think it is, but there is no way of knowing how the ending should be interpreted yet (like anything on Lost). Like I said in my post earlier, the Lostie's death is a logical explanation for the revealed ending.
Cronikeys said... It might randomly be Bernard...?
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I'd like to hope you aren't considering becoming a detective in your future line of work, cause you're pretty terrible at it :)
For one, Ausiello said its an original 815er, which discludes Bernard.
Second, neither Rose nor Bernard are credited to appear in any episode that we've seen press releases for (up to episode 6 at this point).
Thirdly, we just had a spoiler where 7 pictures were displayed saying 'one of these people will die'. Bernard was not one of them.
My point here is it's not Bernard.
@jake3988 -
I'm sorry? Ha ha.. and no I'm not going to be a detective.
1. Bernard IS an original 815er. He's from the tail section, but WAS introduced in the pilot by Rose.
2. I didn't really look at press releases for his name because admittedly I don't think it is him. I just thought it might be an interesting possibility.
3. It's also been said that there will be multiple deaths this season.
It was just an idea and not anything that I'll fight that hard to back up because I don't believe it will be him... especially since Damon and Carlton want to use Rose and Bernard for their spinoff series :) ha ha
Also, I didn't look that deeply into my above rebuttals, so if I'm wrong I'm sorry.
ni hao said...
I think the way the 6 got off the island was by unexplainable time/space travel. The Oceanic 6 don't know how they got off the island.
I think so too! it couldnt possibly be as simple as hopping on a helicopter and then going on a tropical frieghter cruise to LA, its lost were talking about here. I think there going to jump down the rabbit hole.
The thing I like about Lost Spoilers are that sometimes they make absolutely no sense until you see the episode or a few later.
The key words are "may" and "how".
Did he say who?
Im so glad i didnt read the eggtown spoilers, I was going to look at them on this site, but it was just a blank square, so that was a sign right there not to look into it any further, but I gave in and googled it and found it posted in a forum, but once I was all ready and prepaired to rot, I just unfocused my eyes and went NO! all I saw was what appeared to be pink helvetica, and im glad! cuz today I get to soak it all in the way we were all meant to.
After spoiling myself before TTLG, I vowed to never go as far as to read a full synopsis again! I had to keep telling myself it was a foiler, but as soon as i saw bearded jack in the plane getting shit faced, I knew it was true and I will never forgive myself for peeking. Little hints to whats going to happen like this and promos etc. are ok, a week without lost is hell, so they keep me afloat, but you gotta draw the line somewhere!
tottaly off topic but im listening to pink floyd - echoes, and it reminds me off lost everytime i hear it! i havent been this exited for lost in a while! 6 1/2 hours to go woo hoo!
ok maybe since last week! :)
okay, this implied demise is different than the other spoiler that has someone die. the person who was safe in that one is the one who they are talking about now in this one.
claire.
claire.
i refuse to believe its claire.
there has to be a way to avoid it!
it does say his or hers, not only hers. there IS a chance!
sarah! thats classified information! i didnt want to know its claire!!!!!!!
Perhaps Ben's cancer comes back? And its terminal? Thus, we would know he is going to die an untimely death, but its not going to happen immediately?
Oh, except he wasn't introduced in the pilot...scratch that.
untimely is making it seem like someone young
i don't know if its claire, i'm following speculation, just like everyone else!
i'm just saying i really don't want it to be.
if you haven't read the spoiler for eggtown yet DON'T.
I love spoilers but this one is huge!
Although based on the spoilers available it only hints at a characters absence not neccessarily their "demise".
yeah, i'm sure the official word from the oceanic 6 is that they are the only survivors.
they can't say, "well, we left everyone else behind because we're getting paid huge amounts of money to stay quiet and other nefarious reasons!"
yeah, they can't say that.
so everyone else is "dead".
got it?
Don't spoil it for anyone - it's not fair.
Having heard the ending, I know what the reviewer is talking about, they've just worded it all a bit funny. At the end we're going to expect they're dead as it is implied they are, but they most definitely are not. Well, I hope not. ;p
I think Iam*jack's*eye has to be right. I mean under what other circumstances could the spoiler on lostpedia be right if it wasn't Clair.
I've included the link to the **SPOILER** http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Season_4/spoilers#Episode_4x04
Hope my posting etiquette is correct. :) Can't wait for tonight.
~ Mel
www.lost.eu/721e8
Just because it may seem to imply something doesn't mean that it means this person is dead. I think it's a curveball meant to throw us off and think the person is dead when they aren't.
Just my 2 cents.
Trying to do this without spoiling anything...the most of you seem to be assuming meets his or her untimely demise, based on the end as described in the PostProd spoiler...if you look through spoiler videos released here over the past couple of days (I think the headline was "Deathwatch Updated"), you will find info that contradicts your theory...
sadly, that video or whatever was removed.
but i learned stuff from the comments.
by the way, mygfhasstds, sorry about your gf.....
fun name.
mygfhasstds,
I get what you are saying and I saw the Deathwatch vid that say's otherwise but I think that it is only good for the next couple of episodes. Maybe ultimately it does make sense.
~ Mel
http://www.lost.eu/721e8
I agree with the con thing:
Kate and Sawyer set up a con for her to leave the island - Sawyer's first selfless con.
We see Kate mention to the court that it was her boyfriend, Sawyer, who killed her father to protect her (the outside world doesn't know that Sawyer and Kate didn't know each other until the island and I'm sure Kate can act good enough/set up false evidence to convince them)...but that Sawyer died on the island. Kate breaks down in tears. The court is convinced and so are we.
But then it flashes back to the island and we see Kate lay out the plan: she is only TELLING the court that Sawyer is dead.
That also sets up why she doesn't want to go back to the island (the last scene in Season 3): to do so might reveal that Sawyer is still alive and thus is a bad thing for her.
It could also be Bernard: why else mentions that it's 'not Rose', specifically?
It might be someone with a link to Rose and Bernard obviously has the strongest link.
i think its zahid in the coffin and that its a cover up coz hes working for ben ?
People--will you SHUT UP WITH THE EPISODE SPOILERS? I don't want to know who's going to die ahead of time, and some of you are making it pretty obvious as to who it is.
dude, whose got your eyes pried open with you head in a neck brace aimed at this site?
LMFAO SARAH
what is "lmfao"? seriously
Geez... OK. You don't want to be spoiled... Fine. Why the hell do you type on your brower "http://**SPOILERS**lost.blogspot.com/"
I really can't understand it. If you wish to find information about the show without being spoiled, you have thousands of sites that don't do spoilers... Just my share you know.
I am so excited about Thursdays these days but one of the things that frustrates me so much is that I have to wait an entire week for another episode..
I got into Lost only around May last year while they were airing the 3rd season.. I caught up on a daily basis online starting from season 1and never watching the weekly episodes..
In a way, this weekly anguish that a lot of you guys have been facing since '04 is new to me... kinda like a new junkie if u will :)
It was so much easier to just grab the next episode (buy them on itunes if I had to) so I didn't have to wait to find out next..
And since then I watched them all a couple of times..
So, until now my patience hasn't been tested like it is now.. wait every week for a lil more insight..
Its fun but sometimes I wish we could just buy all the episodes somewhere.. I for one should never try drugs :)
jesus h keerist! everyone's just speculating on who dies. geez. the spoilers say someone will die, but not in the way we think (or something like that), and another says the demise of someone may be hinted at. two different spoilers, and both as of yet unconfirmed.
i think claire is the second, and i don't think it's because she's really dead. i think they say she's dead, and everyone else left behind. there. pure spec. don't scream and pout.
as for the first, well... i have my thoughts on that one, too, but i'll post them in the proper place.
*btw, sarah is my new hero*
I'm not against spoilers. However, I do not come to the spoiler section to read full episode spoilers--I did once, and will not do it again.
The spoiler section is not a "post about everything you know in every comment thread" deal. Dark's said many times to keep episode spoilers out of the threads not relating to them. That would be this one. I'm all for the speculation that posts such as this one leave, but when people get on here and start posting about all the stuff they know from reading the episode spoilers, that's just rude.
Ahem... in case you did'nt notice... this IS the comment section... and we are commenting about these spoilers up here. We are sayin who we think it is... A good part of us think is Claire. If you don't like what we think just say "I don't agree with you". Besides... I never said or anybody said "it will be claire, I read it in the spoilers" No, I haven't read them, you know? I don't have the slighest idea about todays episode. But still I think it's Claire. I'm sorry you know, but the idea of going to the spoilers section just to be a little spoiled is ridiculous to me. Anyway, that's what I think, no problemo at all. We cool. :D
OMG! The ending!!!!!!!
I read episodes twice and it totally ruined the episodes for me--took out all the emotional impact totally. They went from what would have been 10s to just so - so. I will never do it again.
I definitely won't spoil next week's episode.
Don't worry Claire is safe.....see deathwatch. Besides thats natural to think she is dead cuz of the ending....she isn't at least not yet this season (time elapsed hard to say)
I think it could be Walt.
i love claire, really don't want her to die.
i'm gonna suggest a theory.
why would they show us that Kates got Aaron, before they show us Claire dies?
also IF Claire didn't die and leave Aaron with Kate, why would Claire send Aaron off the island and stay there herself?
i'm gonna go with Kates Aaron is Sawyers son (she lied to him about not being pregnant). Sawyers got blond hair, Kates aaron looked to be around 3 or 4 right?!
Kate just named him Aaron after the Aaron on the island, to honor him.
right?
just let me live in my bubble.....
At everyone talking about the "untimely demise", #1 - we DON'T know that for sure, don't assume so quickly on anything.......there's no explanation for what, how or why in this......and when there is, if it's what everyone is assuming w/out solid proof, there'd better be a DAMN good explanation....
hey news flash AICN, we didnt learn nothin about how a major cast member meets his or her untimely demise.
Dharmabeer, I just came on to say the same thing. What false advertising!!!