Hey All,
Here is an interesting tidbit. apparently the Hoffs/Drawler Funeral home is going to be used again in Season 5, but it is setup for Simon's Butcher Shop!!
Simon's Butcher shop you ask? Well if you remember back to Charlie's dream sequence in Fire + Water he sees his father Simon as a butcher in their home.
So is it possible that this is Charlie's father's shop?? Are we going to get more of Charlie's story?? Is it a Hurley and Ghost Charlie related scene...or a random shop!?
What do you all think??
Thanks to Lyly for the heads up.
From Hawaii comes word that Hoffs/Drawler has been redressed as "Simon's Butcher Shop." Yes, that is Simon as in Simon Pace. Could this mean we'll be seeing Charlie era flashbacks early on in season 5? Time will tell.
Source: DocArzt
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28 Comments:
Awesome!
An idea of how this might work... perhaps Kate goes there to return the Dexter Stratton ring to Charlie's parents ?
Admittedly, we don't know what happened to the ring after Charlie left it in the crib, but perhaps we will find out that someone (Claire, Sun, Kate or someone else) found it before they left, and it was either on Aaron, or in Kate's possession, when they left. Again, admittedly a long shot, but the missing dots between A and Z could probably be explained.
Just a first best guess on what would bring Simon's Butcher Shop back into the picture.
Wow. This is pretty interesting.
I wonder if it will play an important role in the episode or if it will just be a nod to the fans.
How amazing would it be if it factored into an Island-induced Desmond-y alternate timeline in which Charlie's alive and well in the butcher shop? For instance, Charlie and Liam became butchers like their father wanted, and therefore Charlie never went to Sydney.
I doubt it though. Will probably be a slight nod.
If I had to guess now, I'd say this isn't a "nod" or an "important role." It is simply a "Lost Connection" like the hundreds found in the first three seasons. That being said, I really hope they bring Charlie's character back again this season, even if it's just for a one-scene cameo.
I have a feeling someone will be visiting Charlie as a child, just like Locke was visited as a child.
My guess is that it's a small part of a Richard episode. Perhaps in a possible recruitment attempt he approaches Charlie's father, or maybe he just goes back to keep tabs on the lives of Oceanic survivors throughout their lives so that they make it to the island just as they're supposed to, unbeknownst to them.
1000 Watt Dream might be onto something there... his theory could also tie into why Cheech is coming back early in the season (possibly this episode ?). Maybe Alpert (or Matthew Abaddon) check in on a few of the Losties... Charlie, Hurley and... ?
we took pictures of the new Simon's Butcher Shop and will send some in. It looks like they're still dressing it up for some future filming..?? Very cool at any rate, the signage is really sweet
If that's actually the shop of Simon Pace (do we have proof for that, or is it just a guess?), I wonder if it's somehow connected to that British boy who appears in 5.02, which would probably mean it is not Hurley's hallucination.
On the other hand Jill, who is also a character in 5.02, is a butcher, and she seems American, so couldn't it simply be that that's the shop she works in, and that it has no connection to Simon Pace?
About Jill the butcher, we don't know that she's actually a butcher. That seemed to me like the kind of reference point that LOST casting uses for the type of character it is, but the actual character isn't necessarily, specifically what is in the casting note.
Those casting call notices... very deceptive !
About Jill the butcher, we don't know that she's actually a butcher. That seemed to me like the kind of reference point that LOST casting uses for the type of character it is, but the actual character isn't necessarily, specifically what is in the casting note.
That was my first guess also - my somewhat crazed-out idea was "butcher=assassin" - but given that we now have a butcher shop, I'm inclined to go back to her actually being a butcher.
So they're going to make food out of Locke...
Nice. I always imagined "Fire + Water" as a set up to how Charlie felt about his father. Unlike his mom, Charlie's dad had problems with his kids pursuing a music carrier instead working as butchers. But then writers decided to kill Charlie and that subplot appeared to be forgotten.
Sounds brilliant, this season is shaping up to be pretty crazy, in a great way.
Anything to do with possibly seeing Charlie again excites me!
Remember, second the Lostpedia Simon Pace is still alive... so, maybe someone will visit him in name of Charlie (Hurley maybe?) and the Jill butcher probably work there.
I hope it's the "Toothless-Charlie driving the bus with his mum in the back eating biscuits, smelling of bacon" flashback!!!
(anyone who gets that reference is a real LOST geek!)
Remember, second the Lostpedia Simon Pace is still alive... so, maybe someone will visit him in name of Charlie (Hurley maybe?) and the Jill butcher probably work there.
It's possible. However, they tend to cast asking for British accents specifically for the Brit scenes, and Jill doesn't have one. Of course, an American could work for Mr. Pace, but I don't really think that's very likely.
If that Dexter Stratton ring shows up again i'll be shocked...i've considered that ring to have been MIA since the evacuation of the beach at the end of season 3. Isn't that the last time we saw the crib?
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I hope it's the "Toothless-Charlie driving the bus with his mum in the back eating biscuits, smelling of bacon" flashback!!!
(anyone who gets that reference is a real LOST geek!)
Would it make you feel better to know that I often randomly say that quote? Then my sister always follows it with "It's weeird."
I feel like this is just an easter egg for those fans that pay extra close attention.
Is there any confirmation that it's Simon Pace's butcher shop. or Is It just speculation from DocArzt. I doubt that It Is. Is It supposed to be In the states or overseas. If It's here In the states, It's probably not. Is the picture they are showing a screen-cap from season 5, or just an old pic. I can't imagine this furthering along the story line. I think If we are going to see Charley, It will continue to be ghost Charley. If I remember right, TPTB said we would see Charley's ring again, but not the note he wrote.
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Where did you hear about the note not being seen again? Do you remember?In the beginning of S4 I was expecting Des to pull it out and give it to Claire. They had a whole episode focused on Charlie and that list and it never made it to the recipient. Does anyone feel like Charlie died in vain?
THIRTY-FIVER
If I'm not mistaken, It came right from TPTB, I believe It was a comment they made before comic-con, They said It was destroyed or lost when Charley swum down to turn off the switch, but that the ring might show up later? You might check the scene, but I believe he put It In his pocket before he dove In the water.
@eternally dark and observer:
I was at the filming site and can confirm this wasn't just a one-off. This was set up specifically. There is NO confirmation that it was Simon Pace.
Does anyone feel like Charlie died in vain?
No, because if he hadn't died, nobody would have been warned that the freighter people were bad news, and everyone would have died, either killed by the mercenaries or because Ben would have gassed them.
Charlie put "the note" in Desmond's pocket after he knocked Desmond out and before Charlie dove in the water, Desmond saw the note sticking out his pocket when he snapped out of it, stuck it back in his pocket, realized he was being sniped at by Mikhail and dove in the water...this would make the note a tad, ummmm wet? Des never had the ring, if the ring shows up again it will be IMHO because Claire, who will be MIA but still lurking around the island will be the one with the ring. It'd think it would be pretty cool for both the ring and the note to resurface again, if for no other reason than for Charlie's death to have meant something.