Thanks to my contact "twilight", we can confirm that Sterling Beaumon, who played young Ben in "The Man Behind the Curtain", will be reprising his role again in Season 5. No details yet as to which episode he will be appearing in. I assume this also mean that we will get to see Annie again during this episode/flashback.
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Young Ben to come back
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I have a feeling this will be the episode where we learn what happened to Annie and more than likely we will see a young Charlotte and her relation to the Island. I don't think their is a connection between Annie and Charlotte.
This very possibly could be a Charlotte centric episode.
ben potter the return !! sorry lol no it's very cool, i think we'll learn about annie and i think it will be in charlotte's episode, i could bet she's ben and annie daughter or something like that, maybe i'm wrong lol just my feeling
thanks andy :)
if the island goes back in time to dharma days, it only makes sense that we would see more of kid ben... if only in brief cameos here and there
although i guess it could be for a ben flash... but i don't see why they would need to bring back the same kid for that. i already had enough of his running around and stilted deliveries in the 10 minutes he took from mbtc, don't need to see more of the same...
Stop it with the Island going back in time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they Island went back in time, only people from the outside would be from that time... Locke, Sawyer, Juliet, etc would still be there...
Damn, people just don't get it.
Great News!!!! That's super!!! The episode must be fantastic!! I was loved "The Man Behind the Curtain"!!
I don't want to be a party-pooper, but I never thought that young Ben was particularly well cast in the otherwise excellent Man Behind the Curtain. It's hard to believe he was ever that gangly - and let's face it, the young actor is likely to be even ganglier by now.
And while I'm here... I wish people would explain what they mean when they say things like 'If the island has gone back in time to Dharma days...' It just doesn't make sense to me. If Sawyer, Juliet et al find themselves in the Dharma era, then - surely? - that means that THEY have travelled in time, and NOT the island. When Marty McFly finds himself in Hill Valley in 1955, who's the time-traveller? Marty, or Hill Valley?
Awesome news. Here's hoping it will even feature his first encounter with Jacob.
yeah, the people and the island go back in time... and they 'take part' in the events of island history that up until now we've only heard about...
We definitely need a FB to show Ben's rise to power and Annie's story. So I'm sure this is it.
That sounds great! With Michael Emerson doing such a fine job as Ben, it's difficult to match that. This gut came close, and it would be great to see him on the show again!
Great! one more Ben episode, one more Ben flashback... oh yeah!
Samus88:
With your logic about the Island not going back in time would it not be the same for the Island going to the Future? Because the Island would be in the future just as it is in the past.
I thought the young actor who played Ben looked uncannily like Ben. He played his part very well and Michael Emerson said he was very good to work with.
It will be nice to find out more about the Ben/Annie story.
i already had enough of his running around and stilted deliveries in the 10 minutes he took from mbtc, don't need to see more of the same...
Actually, the point of showing younger Ben again could be to show his shift from a frightened, crying mess to a calculating, cold-blooded...er, Ben. Really - what do you think the best way to handle explaining the still-unrevealed structure of the Others' society and all that stuff? Show Ben's indoctrination. Locke's obviously doesn't work out as intended, so we need to see a successful one.
The other possibility would be having Ben present in sequences with Chang/Cangle/Wickmund/Holowax and Faraday, but that doesn't seem worth it. That stuff should be focused on explaining WTF is up with all the timeline wackiness. Otherwise the MacGuffin of Faraday's notebook wouldn't have gotten set up. That whole bit is for exposition on the time/space stuff they've been tiptoeing around since season 3.
Very cool.
"Actually, the point of showing younger Ben again could be to show his shift from a frightened, crying mess to a calculating, cold-blooded...er, Ben. Really - what do you think the best way to handle explaining the still-unrevealed structure of the Others' society and all that stuff? Show Ben's indoctrination. Locke's obviously doesn't work out as intended, so we need to see a successful one."
meh... do you really want to see that not-so-good kid actor try to pull off a turn from i-never-talk-and-am-scared-around-people ben to 'manipulative' ben? i'd prefer that being something that michael emerson did....
There Is a chance, that Ben being OFF-island, and with the 06, Ben tells all or some of them about his past, and we see the story unfold, In the form of a flash back. This might be one of methods Ben uses to convince the 06 to return to the island.
meh... do you really want to see that not-so-good kid actor try to pull off a turn from i-never-talk-and-am-scared-around-people ben to 'manipulative' ben? i'd prefer that being something that michael emerson did....
If you're eager to see Michael Emerson play his character 30+ years younger than his actual age, I guess that's your business. What needs to be accounted for is the time between when the character first met Richard in the woods and the day he killed his father. That's a fair gap of time. It's totally unbelievable otherwise.
Additionally, I think your dismissal of Sterling Beaumon is based on what he performed rather than how he performed. You think there's a better way to portray a sulky crybaby pre-teen with nothing to say? That's what was written. The kid performed admirably considering that point. Give him something with more than two minutes of dialog before you proclaim him to be a no-talent sack of crap.
I BET it's a Richard flashback, as Locke settles in as new leader, Richard remembers Ben joining them.
This one doesn't totally surprise me, but Sterling was in season 3 was he not? I'll have to imdb him for his exact age, but for Sterling to come back in season 5 he'll be returning as an older Ben; Sterling would have grown quite a bit from season 3 until now, physically, emotionally perhaps a voice change? This should be interesting...an older Ben, closer to Richard now and we could find out at this point what his relationship with Annie turned out to be...questions answered is how I see this. I like it.
I'm with N.I.K. on this, Michael Emerson praised his work on the commentary track for TMBTC--when he could get a word in between Darlton babbling. :-) He said he was totally professional and was able to play his scenes in different ways until they found what they wanted.
I think he did a great job actually--having been a painfully shy, bookish 12-year old boy with glasses once, he *nailed* that portion and the way he went from the freaked-out kid on the dock > "I don't want to go back there! I hate it there! Take me with you" with Richard was pretty cool.
The girl who played Annie, Madeline Carroll, co-starred in the recent Kevin Costner movie Swing Vote and got good notices, and is doing voices in animated movie called Astro Boy, along with....Stirling Beaumon. The Island wants them to do projects together. :-)
I figure that we'll see that Ben got Annie pregnant when they were adults and that she died in the 7th month.
Can't wait to watch the early episodes again on Sci-Fi, starting Monday....
Crow said...
while I'm here... I wish people would explain what they mean when they say things like 'If the island has gone back in time to Dharma days...' It just doesn't make sense to me. If Sawyer, Juliet et al find themselves in the Dharma era, then - surely? - that means that THEY have travelled in time, and NOT the island. When Marty McFly finds himself in Hill Valley in 1955, who's the time-traveller? Marty, or Hill Valley?.....
I think Crow is right... if we take the theory that they will travel back to 'Dharma days' there are limited number of logical conclusions. They are:
1) Only the people, not the island, moved (patently wrong)
2) The island moved - and DHARMA days are about to come. In this case, DHARMA arrived BEFORE the losties, AND AFTER the losties... therefore the island is in a loop. Dharma would arrive on an island where they had already been, therefore, they would build a double of everything? And then, if losties survived long enough, they would crash and there would be a double of them too... and history would doom the island to relive the same period of time over and over... so how the heck can Jack etc get back? The island can never make it past 2004...
3) Unless our good old losties stop Ben from turning the wheel and moving the island... in which case they would never go back in time to stop Ben moving the island... Doc Brown's paradox problem...
The thing is, none of them really quite work to their logical conclusion. If the island has gone back in time, I think that will mean there is TWO of the island.
Unrelated instances of the island...
Doesn't mean DHARMA are not going to come, just means they won't be reliving the events of the past. No matter where the island moves to, it has to be in the islands future, not the islands past.
QED?
ps
I think young Ben, young Annie, Danielle, Alex... a full story of how they connect, could be worked into one episode possibly.
@ackermaniv. You couldn't be more right! That is how Ben seems to be always a step ahead of everybody else.
Look for 'ontological paradox'. That is at the heart of the show, even when TPTB say they don't like paradoxes.
I always love to hear other people's vies, however, the one, shared by many people it seems, that the young Ben was poorly cast, becuase he was too geeky, and therefore didn't connect enough to the Emerson Ben, who is badass, i disagree with.
I think the young ben was perfectly cast. The young Ben is a nice boy. He is intelligent but kind. Unfortunatly he is consistantly emotionaly abused. His transformation from the sweetheart to Emerson-I kill everyone-Ben is a great story and tragedy. I love the line "I hope you're happy Jacob." Jacob was supposed to save this lost boy, but then banished him. Awesome story. However you can't get rid of Ben Linus that easy...
www.ilovebenlinus.com
I think the kid did a great job, it can't be easy to capture Ben. Hope we get the Annie info.
Nojh Roitt said...
@ackermaniv. You couldn't be more right! That is how Ben seems to be always a step ahead of everybody else.
Look for 'ontological paradox'.
An ontological paradox does not avoid the problem that the island would be in a loop, and therefore unaccessable to 2007 O6.