Update: 09:50 Thanks to Amos from http://www.4815162342.pl/ for these larger screencaps.
Update: 08:20 Full HQ Version Added
**UPDATED** Ajira site is now active! Screencap added below!
Hey Losties,
This is what you all have been waiting for!!
The new LOST Season 5 Promo that is with The Fray Music video. There are several new interesting and revealing scenes.
There are several things to discuss even a logo for Ajira Airlines that is embeded in the video!? Is the airline a start of a new ARG or perhaps just a part of the show??
The site www.ajiraairways.com is a password protected site and says "Bengal" which is a version of a tiger that is native to China and India. Below is a screencap of what pops up along with the promo and several screencaps!!
BTW, I really like the song and I think the bridge they are on is here is LA. Maybe the same one Jack was on!?
Thanks to our good friend Carlos from the LOSTinLOST for the heads up and screencaps.
NOTE: I am sure we will get more screencaps as the video is analyzed.
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Good God, that was beautiful.
OH YEAH!!!!
www.ajiraairways.com is now an actual site! they got rid of the 'bengal' login popup.
A preview of the greatest season of TV ever? It just might be :)
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely amazing. Anyone else see the flaming arrows?
Jcarlson: Yup just noticed also and added the sceencap! :)
I caught the flash of the airline logo but couldn't make it out. Thanks for the screencap. Both www.ajiraairways.com & www.ajiraairlines.com domains are registered to a Christopher Braun out of Burbank CA. The Admin & Tech name for both sites is Grace Alexander. There is a phone number (found it to be a cell from reverse phone lookup) and email listed on the Airways info but no phone # on the Airlines info but it has the same email as the one listed on Airways. The name server for Airways is ns1.leeleefilms.com and the name server for Airlines is yns1.yahoo.com. Wonder which site they'll use????
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=ajiraairways.com&prog_id=godaddy
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=ajiraairlines.com&prog_id=godaddy
Now I can go dissect the vid.
Could Ajira Airways be a Korean airline Sun uses to get the oceanic six back to the island? Probably not, but it's sure fun to speculate!
Jacob's cabin on fire?
TLA: I think it is Annie holding a torch!!
Lost4evr: Thanks for the details, I created a separate post for Ajira now. :)
Looks more like Locke is in Jacobs Cabin and he see's a man(possibly Richard) with a torch in the broken window on the porch.
Awesome promo!!!! and the song is really good.
Isn't it Jan yet?
Who is the guy in the forest with the layered shirts and short hair? It's the screencap next to Jack & Sayid fighting.
Wicked bows & arrows:)
Is that Sayid laying on the floor unconscious (or dead?!) in the safe house with Hurley?
I wasn't a big fan of the song, but the new scenes are pretty fantastic.
Lame song (why does it seem trendy for singers to sound drunk these days?), but lots of new footage to talk about. Probably the most interesting for me was Jack and Sayid at each other's throats (if I saw that correctly).
Given that many older shots were intermixed with some new ones in such a way as to mislead the viewer I'm at first suspicious if the hand at Jack's throat actually belongs to Sayid, as the two shots are not continuous but clipped. However, given that Sayid appears to be laying supine on a medical platform of some kind with a breathing mask slightly ajar, I hypothesize that after getting a ceremonial shave, Jack is lead by Ben to an injured Sayid for secret treatment. Sayid probably just overreacted given that he was probably hurt in that fight we saw.
Did it appear to anyone else that when it showed Juliette, Sawyer and all them on the beach that they were looking around for their tents? Because if looked like the area they were standing in was the beach camp but there were no tents or anything there. And they were all looking around like "...what?"
I didn't like that song at all. It was like a trick for us Lost fans to buy their fricking music that sucks. It's subliminal suggestion, we see cool Lost stuff and that means we're supposed to fall in love with the song I guess.
Jack is lead by Ben to an injured Sayid for secret treatment. Sayid probably just overreacted given that he was probably hurt in that fight we saw.
@Matthew: I was shocked when i saw them fighting, so there has to be an explanation and yours makes perfect sense ;)
Both on and off island scenes look really exciting...
I love Jack-Kate and Desmond-Penny scenes that ABC used. They fit good with the lyrics.
2 months to go!
I know as a skater I maybe shouldn't say this...but I was SO excited to see Sawyer looking like he's being all protective with Juliet and pulling her out of harms way. Brought a big smile to my face. ABC are always taking turns with which couple (jate or skate) they use in their promo so I wasn't surprised to see a couple of jate moments this time.
Cannot wait.
More screencaps plz!!!! We need to analyze every bit of this for what it's worth.
A few that were missed is the landmine & trigger wire (which really reminds me of Rousseau) that causes the explosion near Miles, as well as Locke picking up a Virgin Mary statue way out in a clearing near the beach (possibly fell out as the plane was crashing).
I noticed that Locke seems to be wearing the same clothes in all the clips of him, and that the guys holding Dan & Charlotte hostage (with the bows and arrows, and the FPS rifle) all seem to be wearing military clothing of sorts (the cap the one guy is wearing, the colors, etc. just all scream WWII to me, much like a lot of the guns and Ben's signal mirror).
Perhaps that's Danielle's crew, or there are ties between the military and the Island? An island in the South Pacific would've been right there in the Pacific Front between the Allies and the Japanese, no?
Also, a few observations and things we can surmise based on what we saw.
@ 1:10-1:11... At some point (whether due to him being injured/knocked out in the kitchen fight, or because his consciousness is time traveling and the old Sayid freaks out) Jack tries examining Sayid with a doctor's mini-flashlight and giving him an oxygen mask, but Sayid responds violently by choking Jack.
@ 1:13-1:16... Just like Kate screeching to a halt @ LAX in the beginning of the season 4 finale, picking up exactly where S3 left off, at some point we'll revisit where we were in the Hoffs/Drawlar Funeral Parlor @ the end of S4. Jack and Ben have some new dialogue before taking 'Jeremy Bentham' -- Jack: "How did all this happen?" Ben: "It happened because you left, Jack."
@ 2:09-2:12... A barrage of flaming arrows rains down on the camp, ostensibly shot by the same people who are seen holding Dan & Charlotte hostage w/ bows and arrows (@ 1:36-1:38). One fiery bolt appears to actually strike a dead body, and amongst those fleeing we can see Vincent.
@ 2:24... After the Island made his legs give out twice so that it was Boone who fell in the drug smuggler's plane and Eko saw the '?' from that height, Locke finally attempts to scale the vine cliff and actually falls. This may relate to the scenes of his eye opening and him lying in the grass (@ 0:49-0:51), as well as the blood he sees on his hand when he looks down at the compass (@ 2:07-2:08).
@ 2:32-2:35... Seeing everyone standing there for a split second in the last promo video, I couldn't make out what was going on, but the longer clip this time makes it clear our Losties are looking for their tents near the beach, but realize they're all gone.
@ 2:35... Locke and Juliet can be seen emerging from the jungle and looking into the ravine where New Otherton should be, but it's mysteriously absent... even sans sonic fence. It appears that they traveled back in time to before the Barracks were even built, which is interesting, because this indicates that the Hatches were built first. Curious.
~ Keeping Pace
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Jeff, nice note on the Barracks, can't wait for the new season!!! As for the music video, I'm tempted to say Chicago, although it wouldn't fit with the theme of the show. I actually was privy to a The Fray videoshoot this summer. While on my way to visit a couple of former neighbors, they mentioned the shoot directly in front of the buildings we all lived in. However, I didn't recognize any of the locations, so this could either be LA, or part of the full video that I haven't seen yet.
But totally stoked for 5!!!
Really Awesome Promo.
This Season sounds like amazing.
more screen http://www.4815162342.pl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=354&Itemid=1
Thank you ABC, and thank You DarkUFO and ODI for the video...that was just AWESOME...
OMG! OMG! OMG!
THIS PROMO WAS TRULY AMAZING!
Thanks for the caps!!
I am so excited!
While I was watching it I had shivers down my spine, believe me!
Can't make any comments, I'm all ghkj vddhlfh jhkgkj gjkhl for this upcoming season!!
at 1:36 the one of the guys has a jumpsuit on and it looks like it might say "Workman" on it. Here is a close picture
http://i37.tinypic.com/2a79csz.jpg
If that was Jack and Sayid fighting, i hope Sayid kicks his ass.
Also I am sick of hearing 'we have to go back kate!' in every promo. And that was a lame song. All in all though, pretty exciting stuff!
jennamaria
I think Jack is there to actually help Sayid who is maybe under heavy medication..who knows...we'll see!
And the 'we have to go back Kate' was the end of the most mind-blowing season finales of all time!
(I agree the song is lame and so is the band!)
Beter Quality Pic from Polish Lost Fans http://www.4815162342.pl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=355&Itemid=1
at 1:36 the one of the guys has a jumpsuit on and it looks like it might say "Workman" on it. Here is a close picture
I think that's a name tag on a uniform. That guy seems to be a 20th century type soldier, strange weaponry notwithstanding.
Aw, sawyer is protecting juliet just like he did with claire. Such a gentleman. Gotta love him!
And kate going to visit sun is something i am really interested to see. :D
I thought there were a several people that are transported onto the island with the turn of wheel, but as the video shows, they are so many!
What happens to the survivors if their campside is on attack?
Taking all these images together, it seems like the Lostaways ended up in the past somehow before Flight 815 crashed: no beach camp, the Hatch is still in the ground, the Virgin Mary statues are still intact, etc. (And good catch on noticing that the valley is where the Barracks are supposed to be !) I mean, that's probably obvious, but no one else specifically mentioned all those elements together, so... there you go.
So, if our Losties did indeed get thrown into the past, I've got to wonder... does that mean that there are two different Richard Alperts on the Island now ? Was the Richard who recruited Ben the same Richard from our time who was last seen with Locke, or the Original Recipe Richard ? Oh, what webs time travel leads to.
Also, how does "time travel" work on LOST... ? It sends humans (and Vincent) into the past, but not physical objects ? That seems... oddly selective. Because the present Island definitely went somewhere, but how does it lose all its present day attributes, as the people travel and it doesn't ?
About the Hazmat person holding a gun on Daniel... judging by their frame, I'm going to guess that it is a woman, not a man. Their frame is very thin. Obviously, it could be a thin man, but... just seems feminine to me somehow. I was hoping it would be Kelvin, but he's very stocky, which this person isn't.
Also, there was a different LOST promo that aired during "Life on Mars" (which returns with new episodes on 1/21 after LOST), and it had at least one new shot, which is Desmond rushing somewhere and Penny asking something like, "Des, where are you going?"
Elisabetta said...
"I think Jack is there to actually help Sayid who is maybe under heavy medication..who knows...we'll see!'
Yes, you are right, I read that Sayid would be 'paranoic' or 'crazy' or something like that and Ben will need Jack to help him with this 'psychologic sick' Sayid!
Luthien said ...
"Jack is lead by Ben to an injured Sayid for secret treatment. Sayid probably just overreacted given that he was probably hurt in that fight we saw.
@Matthew: I was shocked when i saw them fighting, so there has to be an explanation and yours makes perfect sense ;)"
Same here Luthien!
"Both on and off island scenes look really exciting...
I love Jack-Kate and Desmond-Penny scenes that ABC used. They fit good with the lyrics."
Yes, and with "YOU FOUND ME" by The Fray those Kate&Jack scenes seems much better!!! They did same whit Sawyer&Juliet too but I really don't believe they will have a romantic relationship, just good friends and island leaders.
2 months is too far!!!
Sayid wakes up and tries to strangle Jack. Now that is my idea of an epic reunion. : )
Great promo and the poor islanders look like they're in for a hell of a ride.
Good stuff. : )
Nice video!. Josh looks in great shape::)!
Sweet promo! *_*
This scene of locke looks allot like the one of him waking up in the jungle after the hatch explosion
http://www.imagebam.com/image/1adf3818893010
@rock
Maybe because are the same. XD
This is the original screen from ep.3*03 : http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=76511&fullsize=1
elisabetta - i know it was an exciting ending...but it was an exciting ending a year and a half ago! I'm sick of hearing about it! Maybe its just cause I don't like Jack ;-)
I'll tell you what would have really excited me...seeing Walt in a promo. I know its impossible for them to do a flashback now but I still wanna see more Walt and find out more about why he is so 'Special'. They made such a big deal out of it in Season 2 and now...nothing.
WOW, great promo, lots of new footage :D amaaazing
Correction - its impossible for them to do an on-island walt flashback. just wanted to get in there before everyone else started having a go!
Thanks Luca/Altair
Interesting
Is Sayid beating up Jack??! Well, that should be one hell of a great scene. :D
@ 1:37, the person aiming the gun at Daniel and Charlotte could be Rousseau.
@ 2:06, Locke seems extremely shocked at who is aiming a gun at him.
Excellent promo!!!
Hazmatsuit man has rip in his Hazmat suit leg same as Kelvin had...
except...it's on the other leg?!!!
Random observation: for everyone hoping that the person in the Hazmat suit met by Daniel is Radzinsky, I think you'll have a disappointment on your hands, unless Kelvin was withholding some really crucial info. Because I'm pretty sure that's a woman.
...which GregDean has already observed, it seems.
Greg, that other promo you saw: is Des rushing wherever different from him rushing wherever at the end of this one?
My guess is the people in military uniforms with Daniel and Charlotte is Danielle's science team. They are indeed in modern clothing but have homemade weapons.
@Jeff - Good catch on the new Otherton location - it does seem to be the same location, what with the cliffs and all -
HOWEVER -
Pause the clip just after the camera pans down below Lockes arm...and Lo and behold -
There ARE ACTUALLY a few houses there (about 4 or 5), probably just being built....so my guess is they arrive at the start of the new otherton project...
everybody go check if you don't believe me...
(I have super detail spotting skills!!!)
(02:36) for the above by the way ^^^^^
http://www.imagebam.com/image/93c29f18893029/
Who is this guy? I like the whole going in the past ideas, but this guy doesn't seem to be from the past. Is this a dead guy that Miles talks to?
I caught the very end of the new tv spot (seemed to have a few different scenes from The Fray promo - i smell more screencaps) that aired during Life On Mars... As it's not on the ABC site, anyone know where it might be found?
Well, if they took Oceanic to get there originally, maybe they take Ajira to get back!!!
yeah rounda...I saw that first and then when I went into the spoilers chat, they showed me this. I was like this isn't what I saw!!! LOL
The person behind the gun (who's identity is so obviously being withheld for some reason) could well be part of some shocking reveal. Probably someone we've seen or heard of before.
Did anyone notice Penny has a wedding ring on her ring finger? So glad to see that she & Desmond get married.
@Big Wee Hag - yes, the Life on Mars promo's Des/Penny scene is indeed a longer version of that brief glimpse of Desmond running. I hadn't noticed it in this promo, but like I say, the Life on Mars version is longer, and has a Penny line.
Speaking of Desmond... anyone noticing that in the grand scheme of balance, Desmond actually gets a lot of screen time in this video ? There's that whole sequence in the middle where they have all those shots from "The Constant." I think it's not lost on Darleton that "The Constant", and Desmond's story in general, was so well received by the fans. What I would have liked more of... Sawyer. And I'm straight !
Oh and about the comment above that they thought a flaming arrow hit a corpse... that looks to me more like a bundle of straw or some sort of spongey, mossy Island undergrowth. The Hostiles are not kidding with those flaming arrows... I think I'd rather get shot. Fire is like the WORST way to die. : (
WOW.....I had goose-bumps!!!!!...I can't wait!!!!!
I hope the Rose is able to run away from those arrows! Rambo better carry her.
GregDean & Big Wee Hag, What makes you two think that the person in the hazmat suit is a woman? I've watched it again and looked for some kind of body language or mannerism, and I don't see it. I mean, I can picture Danielle being behind that mask, but nothing seemed to be lady like, to me. Care to explain?
Greg: thanks!
As for Sawyer, he does get a lot of screen time, though. There are several shots of him looking worried with and without shirt, in the jungle and on the beach, and that lengthy sequence where he and Juliet are running through the beach attack.
I must say, the editors did a pretty good job fitting the scenes with the lyrics, although showing someone on the ground in concert with the line "You found me lying on the floor" sort of cracked me up.
i liked the new scenes and everything, but could they have picked a worse song? yikes. i'll mute the video next time i watch it, i don't want to associate that song with the new season of lost.
Thirty-Fiver: GregDean & Big Wee Hag, What makes you two think that the person in the hazmat suit is a woman? I've watched it again and looked for some kind of body language or mannerism, and I don't see it. I mean, I can picture Danielle being behind that mask, but nothing seemed to be lady like, to me. Care to explain?
For one, that person has a very small frame, like Greg said. And apart from that, she is smaller than Faraday, and Jeremy Davies, bless him, isn't exactly huge.
wwwoooou, it will be just amazing, I´m really curious on Jack and Sayid´s facedown during Sayid´s operation and on Locke in jungle.
And Sawyer topless again, and with Miles, haha:)
And I think, that it´s obviously, that Losties on the island will travel in time to past, omg, it´s just so crazy, haha:)) Lost is just best sci-fi tv show on the world, yeah:)
very exciting. when locke is looking at the virgin mary statue you can see the freighter burning in the background. i think danielle is behind the gun aimed at locke (thats why he looks shocked). whats happening at the beach canp? miles looks pretty shocked. who shot the flaming arrows? what is the ammunition box in the woods? who is the guy with the layered shirts? is he a random redshirt or a new character? whats going on with jacobs cabin? who are those military men? what happened to the barracks? what is this new airlines? so many questions.
ps: that song is garbage
Some quick thoughts before I study :(
RE: close up of Locke in the dark and there's a flame flickering in the background. I'm pretty sure it's not the cabin. After slowing it down you can barely see a face behind the flame. I think it's just Richard approaching Locke, which is shown more clear right afterwards.
Something seems weird with Miles when he's looking at the two men walking away from him. Miles is sweating real bad and looks kinda freaked out. I wonder if these people are triggering his spider sense. ;)
I guess Locke is truly on his own. We've seen scenes with Locke and the Others, Locke with Juliet, Locke alone, and Locke being attacked. He's all over the place and I love it!!!
Too bad they couldn't give us any type of hint on the status of Jin. :/
YAY!!! New spoilers and new theories running rampant. Love all your guys theories. Some things I noticed in the vid that I haven't heard mentioned here:
1:48--Ben playing the piano, the picture on the wall above the piano looks like the same scene Locke & Juliet are looking at.
2:31--Hurley's getaway car, the license plate number is 4DOQ678
2:35--LOTS of redshirts at the clearing
2:36--Locke looking across the valley, there is a flash in the mtn top. Perhaps he's looking at the Temple?
I think the person in the hazmat suit is male. Just a feeling
I think Jack & Sayid are fighting at the place where Sayid went to Ben to get fixed up at the end of The Economist. Which leads me to wonder, at the end when Jack says "Let's go get them," if he's talking about the ppl left on the island or the ppl on Ben's list....hmmmmmm
OK, First of all.. That song wasn't the greatest choice. There are a few things I noticed that weren't shown in the screencaps. It flashed through Juliette, Locke, and Sawyer all holding their arms over their faces. Then I thought it showed Desmond waking up next to Juliette?
Have to disagree with a few of you here. I really like the song.
This looks to be the best season of TV in the history of TV!
Sayid and Jack fighting? I can't wait to see what that is about.
I wonder what is up with Hurley sitting at the table. And Hurley looking out the window with an unconcious (hopefully) Sayid behind him.
Who is Sayid fighting with in the other fight scene? Can't wait to find that out.
Daniel and Charlotte with two guys aiming at them.
Locke falling from an incredible height.
And Holy Flaming Arrows, Batman!
Anyway, I foresee a lot of sitting perched on the edge of my seat coming up. I don't want to miss a second of the upcoming season. I thought of having a party but then I would be having to tell everyone to hush.
I am sorry for the profanity but:
Oh My Fucking God!
This is the fucking shit. Haha, i mean, well the song and band sucks, not my type of music, but the footage, I mean, well, it's friggin amazing, :S
There's so much to talk about I don't even know where to start. I'll leave now nd chill and then try t say a few things.
Has anyone else noticed that the suit and tie that Jack is wearing in the last scene when he says, "Lets go get them", is the exact same suit and tie he is wearing when he is laying in the jungle during the first minute of The Pilot? Its a blue suit...when he gets to the beach and starts rescuing people, he is wearing a black suit....maybe the first minute of The Pilot was a flashforward to season 5 or 6 and then when he arrived at the beach, it jumped back to present time!?!?
Which leads me to wonder, at the end when Jack says "Let's go get them," if he's talking about the ppl left on the island or the ppl on Ben's list....hmmmmmm
I think he's talking about going to get Sayid, Kate, Hurley, etc.
Then I thought it showed Desmond waking up next to Juliette?
Nope, that's Penny.
I'm devastated to say it, but I also like the song.
spoiler theory:
you know why jeremy bentham is called jeremy bentham? because he is dead for lots of years now. why? because the island moved back in time.
Intriguing promo, as always. My thoughts:
- I agree with the previous comment that the person pointing a gun at Charlotte and Daniel is someone we've already met. Possibly the leader of those with the flaming arrows?
- It's impossible from this trailer to tell whether the person in the hazmat is male or female. It can't be gauged by size unless someone has a supernaturally good sense of perspective. The stance is equally ambiguous. I'm still content to hope for some Radzinskination.
- Alpert emerging from the jungle looks really shocked. It could just be the eyeliner-which-he-doesn't-actually-wear, or maybe he's seeing something...shocking. I like the idea that he's run into past/future-himself, but let's face it...that would NOT surprise this guy.
- The song REALLY sucks, and I hate how they try to relate the clips to the words. "Lying on the floor..." made me cringe every single time.
- http://www.imagebam.com/image/c46f6f18893070/
"Welcome to Station 42: The Annie."
It's impossible from this trailer to tell whether the person in the hazmat is male or female. It can't be gauged by size unless someone has a supernaturally good sense of perspective.
Incidentally, I'm an artist, so I do have a good sense of perspective, but I happen to think this is a woman, because a) we're all expecting someone in a hazmat suit to be either Kelvin, Radzinsky or Desmond, and b) there was a casting call for episode two for a woman named Darlene whose description would fit precisely for someone who had to spend lots of time in the hatch.
Dixiegal06 - I thought the suits were the same too, but it looks like the ties are different. Compare http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:1X05_JackAirport.jpg with http://www.imagebam.com/image/979a6218893133.
I'm with T.A.L. - Jacob's cabin is on fire (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2e07cd18893079/ and http://www.imagebam.com/image/041a9718893080/), or perhaps someone is in the cabin with a torch - but the window is broken. What does that mean? More importantly, given that Jacob maketh fire and extinguisheth fire, I'm not sure that this particular scene tells us anything.
Alpert emerging from the jungle looks really shocked.
As shocked as I've ever seen him tbh. And I reckon it's either because Locke is injured and bleeding or because (as it appears from this shot) Jacob's cabin is burning/destroyed. Locke looks fairly distraught in the previous scene too and they seem connected.
I'm with Chester and any number others...the song is just meh. BUT the new footage is really sparking the imagination. Can't wait until some awesome individual uploads the other trailer that includes the new scenes that aren't so heavily overlayed with the droning of "you found meeehh, you found meeehhh".
Vincent!!!! I saw Vincent!!!
WHO has Vincent on a leash here?? And WHY is Vincent on a leash??
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a8360f18893075/
Found the words to the Fray song. It really does tie-in to the vid:
the Fray "You Found Me"
“Where were you?
When everything was falling apart.
All my days spent by the telephone.
It never rang
And all I needed was a call
It never came
To the corner of First and Amistad
Lost and insecure, you found me, you found me
Lying on the floor, surrounded, surrounded
Why’d you have to wait?
Where were you? Where were you?
Just a little late.
You found me, you found me.
Early morning
The city breaks
I’ve been calling for years and years…
and you’ve never left me no messages
Never sent me no letters
You’ve got some kind of nerve
Taking all I want
Lost and insecure, you found me, you found me
Lying on the floor, surrounded, surrounded
Why’d you have to wait?
Where were you? Where were you?
Just a little late.
You found me, you found me.”
Why'd you have to wait?
To find me
To find me
http://tv.popcrunch.com/the-fray-you-found-me-lyrics-lost-promo-video-november-20/
Seriously - Mini Barracks (02:36) in the valley - just above and below Lockes arm as the camera pans down....
Does nobody care? :(
Wait, the Others' Barracks are incomplete? So we're talking earlier than mid-70s (when Ben arrived)? That's unexpected. I guess if the people with the flaming arrows are the "hostiles" then that would make sense - they appear to have the run of the island. (I always wondered if "the hostiles" were a Dharma hoax to keep their people from straying from the Barracks, though)
There seem to be about 4 or 5 small structures where the Barracks will eventually be - they could be houses, or tents (It's hard to tell) but there's def something there
(very hard to catch cause the camera moves quite fast)
Remember the Barracks aapear to be above some kind of underground tunnel system (as shown when Ben goes to unleash Smokey) so it's possible this is a small mining colony about to dig these tunnels (Farady in the past anyone)
Either way, there's def something going on there.
The scene where Jack says "Let's go get 'em" while leaving the room with the ruffle-valanced window appears to take place at a different time than the earlier scene when he's following Ben out of the same room, according to the ambient lighting. The first scene is pretty dim (with shadows cast by mini blinds?) and the last one looks like bright mid-day. Do we know where this location is yet?
Webbsta said... (very hard to catch cause the camera moves quite fast)
Do you know a feature called "pause"? ;)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8854/barrackslz7.jpg
That image was pretty clear TLA. A lot more clear than what I originally saw, anyways. So, something is up with the cabin.
I thought Jacob was pretty good at putting out flames? ;)
That's a pretty cool promo. I like The Fray, and those scenes for Season 5 are getting me bloody excited. January can't come soon enough!
I've heard of "Pause". Vincent has four of them!!
I meant very hard to catch (As in pause at the exact spot) cause the camera moves very fast.
But you see there's something there...
I think the scene with Locke seeing the flame through the "window" and Richard emerging is located at the hole in the rock and not Jacob's cabin
Those could be the tents shown in earlier photos/spoilers.
@P:
The scene where Jack says "Let's go get 'em" while leaving the room with the ruffle-valanced window appears to take place at a different time than the earlier scene when he's following Ben out of the same room, according to the ambient lighting. The first scene is pretty dim (with shadows cast by mini blinds?) and the last one looks like bright mid-day. Do we know where this location is yet?
I think the place where it is sunny is the same place that Hurley is looking through the door with the bright colors around the window and Sayid on the floor (1:58). Is this scene at St Rosa's? The same colors are around the window behind Jack as he's leaving the room
2:05 on the vid--Vincent is with Juliette while she's uncoving the hatch. You can see his rope leash as she's brushing away the debris on the hatch.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Charlotte's nosebleed. Daniel did, it looked like.
Beautiful promo, and possible scenarios:
-Hurley and Sayid fight Widmore's crew. Sayid gets shot, and Hurley has some of Sayid's blood on his shirt. They take him to a house (safehouse?), where Hurley waits for Ben by peering out the top of the door window.
-Ben asks Jack to tend to Sayid, who wakes up mid-procedure and tries to choke Jack, perhaps thinking that he's in danger, but it's just Jack.
-Kate arrives with Aaron in tow, and judging from the previous trailers, Jack sees her when she's brought in by Ben...or Sayid, and gets all googly-eyed.
-Some crew is after the LBers, not sure if they're the Others. They try to escape the island, find Jin, but turn around.
-Locke got some very bad news about his status as island leader.
-Charlotte's nosebleed. Seriously, am I the only one that noticed? Did she also travel a la Desmond?
-Des is having nightmares or flashes again.
-We'll see flashbacks (judging from BeardedJack at Hoffs, Shirtless Sawyer), and present time...obviously, they won't spoil us with possible FFs.
Ok, I feel much better now that that's organized in my head. :)
WHO has Vincent on a leash here?? And WHY is Vincent on a leash??
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a8360f18893075/
An extra of course. Vincent is on a leach because people put Vincent on a leash. It's happens all the time, are you seriously asking this question??
I think the guys with arrows are the people from Rousseaus team.
It probably is since, Damon and Carlton have said in Season 5 we will get her backstory, but to call it a Flashback would be wrong.
So technically, this isn't a Flashback. Awesome =)
I think the blood on Hurley's shirt is in fact ketchup - I think there was a spoiler about him riding shotgun with sayid, and eating a hot dog or burger. My guess is Sayid slams on the breaks, and hugo gets ketchup on him...
Then they go up to the apartment and the shooting starts.
The shot where Sayid is on the floor, and Hugo looking through the window is in Hugo's mansion, I suspect.
Didn't someone also observe during the last trailer that Sayid seems to have caught some darts during that fight in the kitchen? Maybe they actually just tranquilized him, and that's why Hurley is now dragging him around. (I believe he does exactly that in one of the teasers, while he's saying they should have stayed on the island)
So how far back are the Left-Behinders going? Far enough for two of them to end up being "Adam and Eve"? (But then how do they end up with the black and white stones?)
Rose and Bernard prob get those stones from somewhere before they die...
Actually, now that the beach camp seems to have disappeared, you think everyone'll try and go back to live in the caves for a bit? Seems like a logical step.
Jack estimated that Adam and Eve had been there "forty or fifty years" to allow their clothing to degrade in such a way...so that'd put it around 1954 - 1964 when they were laid to rest...unless his estimate was off.
Why does everyone assume Locke is looking out at what is supposed to be the Barracks? Why can't it just be a camp in a valley? If the Swan is intact, so are the Barracks. Nuff said.
Hmm... If the Island does in fact transport them to the past...
I wonder if Jacob's list has something to do with this? We haven't seen the taken tail section people since briefly in Season 3 so will we see Cindy, Zach and Emma again?
Locke is now supposedly the leader of the Others now so it'd be great if this dangling plot line is finally revisited. Jacob's list might be a list of those survivors who are supposed to be transported back in time for some yet unknown purpose! That'd be so cool.
BTW, Annie is a huge part of this promo, as other fans have noted...
The Ajira Logo led initially to a password protected site...if you look at the screencap I posted, it has the word "Bengal" in reference to the tiger.
However, another way to look at this IS:
Bengal -> Ben Gal -> Annie
Oooo you know you guys like that one... ;)
I of course cannot take credit for this connection but I love it!
Annie is the new Numbers!
RSK - i think no one mentioned charlottes nosebleed cos it was on a previous promo a while back.
My dear ODI, if you weren't The ODI, I'd call you names, :P
Everyone else, stop with the Annie nonsense!
Samus: ROFL :p
All in good fun my friend...it is a game now, to see how every post or spoiler can be connected to Annie... :D
I actually saw her hidden in the promo poster...trust me I have proof...
Buddies: You are right about the nosebleed.
I love how the left behinders see that the beach camp is gone and Bernard is moving his arms like "Oh Great, no more beach camp"
@The ODI--
I actually saw her hidden in the promo poster...trust me I have proof...
Care to elaborate???????:)
(I'm guessing morse code maybe?)
I can't believe anyone else noticed...
turn the promo poster upside down... magnify 5 times, and you'll see Annie.
;)
wheres Claire! i cant believe swayer and locke the only originals on the island! (even tho lockes and other now!) also does anyone else think this looks like the dude who all the tailies thought was an other nathen i think his name was?
http://www.imagebam.com/image/93c29f18893029/
just a thought :)
I think the scene with Locke seeing the flame through the "window" and Richard emerging is located at the hole in the rock and not Jacob's cabin
I think you might be right. Viewed in slow motion, the 'fire' looks like Alpert's torch moving past some unknown structure. It's a very deceiving shot.
I don't think so, gimmers. Nathan hair was darker.
"Sayid wakes up and tries to strangle Jack. Now that is my idea of an epic reunion. : )"
"Bengal -> Ben Gal -> Annie
LOL LOL @ Katieb and The ODI
This promo is great! S5 will be fabulous!!!
here is an image someone sent me with the annie doll hidden in the promo pic, i have edited so you can see it more clearly...now before all of you jump on me, i am sure it is not real... ;)
Annie Doll Hidden in S5 Promo Pic
As my best friend and I were making our shirts to wear to go see the midnight premier of Twilight (I know, I know), my mom was watching Grey's Anatomy. We happened to walk into the room for a few moments, and the commercial came on. We both grabbed each others' hands and screamed like fan girls. It was a really good! I'll have to watch it again, because all the screaming last night every time robert pattison moved kind of left me a bit brain dead.
Last night was a good night for premiers...they showed a new trailer for Harry Potter before Twilight too.
Lost has the best storyline potential in all of TV. I have been waiting since Season 1 for that awesome storyline moment...and Season 5 has the potential to be it. The Losties and the Others got back in time, the interactions with dharma, the secrets of the old Island, how they get back, what do they change.... omfg dude...this is plotpoint heaven...
Upon re-watch....is that scene of Locke laying there in the jungle in a very Pilot version Jack-esque pose from a previous episode? I read through most of the comments and don't remember seeing anyone else mentioning it.
And I can't bring up the pictures of Jack's pilot suit vs. jack's promo suit, but if they are the same...my preferred ending is one step closer to becoming reality :D
Yep STH, that's an old shot of Locke laying in the jungle. I'm pretty sure it's from 'Further Instructions' when he wakes up after the hatch implosion.
Uh oh, it's not looking good for Rose and Bernard. We can specualte those on the Zodiac raft with Faraday are toast and it looks like the beach camp is going to be ransacked by the Hostiles (not the Others) and only Sawyer, Juliet, Locke, Faraday, Miles and Charlotte will make it out.
One thing that they did not show in the trailer is the "return" of Neil Frogurt, which Damon Lindelof confirmed in the Pearls of Wisdom section of the official magazine.
http://www.4815162342.pl/images/stories/ee/2211/1.jpg
maybe camp ?
I'mm just wondering, why is everyone saying that the beach camp is gone and so is New Otherton?
I mean, all I see is the beachies looking around going "What?" that could be anywhere on the island right? Maybe I'm just not good at identifying locations, but I don't see anything that says it is where the beach camp should be.
To me, the island is full of trees and jungle, and every piece of tree and jungle looks the same to me...except for my favourite leaf of course.
I'm probably wrong, but if the island went back in time, wouldn't the tents have travelled back with them? I mean, if the lostaways and their clothes/guns/booze are still there, why not tents?
Also, the virgin Mary statue is shown in the trailer. If they have travelled back to a time before Dharma (or at least early Dharma) it would be long before Eko's drug plane took off in the 90s.
I just can't find any way for me to believe they have travelled back to the Dharma days. The entire island moved. I mean, when Marty McFly time travels to a time before his car was created, the car doesn't get younger and revert to component parts. However if that did happen, Marty would get younger and eventually be unborn.
In my mind, any scenario which involves going to the Dharma days, means the car gets younger, but Marty isn't unborn and I don't think one can exist without the other.
Wait, there is some hope for the socks because Damon said that Vincent would survive through season 6!
"I'm probably wrong, but if the island went back in time, wouldn't the tents have travelled back with them? I mean, if the lostaways and their clothes/guns/booze are still there, why not tents?"
That's exatly why it makes no sense at all... that's why I've been complaing about the "island went back in time" theory for months. I hope there's a really god explanation for all these in the show, because an island reverting in time, but n the people on it, equals to No Sene At All. 2 more months and we'll know.
Reddkryten said...
Exactly. Either TMBP have no idea of what Time travel means (in theory, no one has ever made through time so it's all theoreticall) or they have a very weird explanation for this.
@thedemonhog...
That true about Frogurt?
This is probably going to sound a little weird, but I think the island travelling into the past without being there twice works if you look at it as something parallel to Desmond's mind travelling. He ends up in his younger self (i.e. he looks different), but also in a different place in space (for instance in London or Glasgow). And I'm aware the latter requires the island to be able to move, but we've seen that happen, so it is very possible that it has been in different places at different times.
As for why none of the people who made the jump really changed or their clothes suddenly got "newer," I suppose it is both because they were on the island while it jumped and because it is simply narrative convenience.
Ah, I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't believe the Dharma travelling island.
About Desmond. Yeah his mind went back about five maybe ten years and ended up in his younger body, in a different location. Going back to the Dharma days would mean traveling atleast 30 years. Sawyer would either be a child or unborn.
His adult mind would wake up in his young body Alabama. Not sit on the island fully grown.
Hasn't anyone looked at the HAZMAT suit. The rift in the pants is there. Remember Desmond noticed it in Live Together, Die Alone. Does this mean it is Desmond that is coming coming out of the hatch.
@Choekaas -
Yep in noticed that - but I also noticed the rift is on the left leg, whereas Kelvin's was on his right...
OMG WTF FIRE ARROWS!
Going back to the Dharma days would mean traveling atleast 30 years. Sawyer would either be a child or unborn.
His adult mind would wake up in his young body Alabama. Not sit on the island fully grown.
I meant that the island itself is mind travelling, not the people on it. Yes, that's a pretty batshit crazy idea, but we're talking about a pretty unusual piece of land here.
Hasn't anyone looked at the HAZMAT suit. The rift in the pants is there. Remember Desmond noticed it in Live Together, Die Alone. Does this mean it is Desmond that is coming coming out of the hatch.
It would certainly be helpful to Daniel if that were Desmond. Although in that case I'd really would have to let my glasses get checked.
I don't think the rift being on the wrong leg is all that important. Prop mistakes of that calibre happen in single episode shoots, and LTDA was shot what, three years ago?
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the clip of charlie swimming outside of a window that Hurley is sitting in front of, touching the window, and shattering it (0:42 - 0:44)
Re: Webbsta - From the Official 'Lost' Magazine, Issue #19 (November/December 2008): 'Tales from the Freighter', page 60: "Pearls of Wisdom" (fan questions to co-creator/executive producer):
Will season five show us what happened to the socks that were on the little boat that was taking people to the freighter when it blew up and the island moved? I'm worried about them! -- Zach Goins
Well it's certainly nice to hear SOMEONE's worried about the socks, Zach! Let's just say we'll be seeing a little more of Neil frogurt (introduced in a mobisode last year) who will rise up this season in the grand tradition of Dr. Arzt to let his feelings be known. -- Damon Lindelof
Re: lumpyduck - That's because that is reused footage from the fourth season premiere.
Hey guys, I was wondering about time lines, do u think that Ben was on the island when Dr. Candle (or whatever is name is) was filming the varios orientating videos or that's before him? I mean do u think that the ones left on the island, if they really went back in time, will deal with Ben when he was younger? If so that should change Ben's memories in a way like The Butterfly Effect movie...
@thedemonhog...
Hell yeah! I always liked the "socks" (even tho Nikki and Paulo seemed a little forced). I reckon this'll be there last season though, as I'm sure they'll be picked of one by one (by flaming arrows no less!), but Frogurt'll be good being their collective voice till that happens.
I only wish we could see Sullivan (the Hives guy who only appeared in 1 ep back in season 1 (Solitary IIRC), one last time, just for completion sake...
fingers crossed!!
"It's Neil time!!!"
"...now and forever."
Awesome trailer.
For some reason the scene with Ben on the piano gives me goosebumps.
The ODI said...
BTW, Annie is a huge part of this promo, as other fans have noted...
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Exactly! Didn't you know that the Hindu had an ancient tradition of replacing letters with numbers? I've just checked my sources and guess what?!?!
4 (=A)
8(= N)
15(=n)
16(=i)
23(=e)
42(=!).
So 4 8 15 16 23 42 = ANnie! OMG!!!!!
@Webbsta & thedemonhog--Sorry for being plaid, but what is "socks"?????
@Pavel--4815162342=ANnie!??!! I in fact didn't know Hindu had an ancient tradition of replacing letters with numbers. That is TOOOO COOOL!!!! Can you quote a source? And why did you wait 4 going on 5 seasons for this reveal????
lost4evr, I totally forgot to put a smiley in there. Never trust a Russian, don'tcha forget it!
lost4evr, "socks" are "meat socks," meaning the background players who (almost) never get lines and are usually there to add a sense of crowdedness and/or be killed off to show things are serious.
@Pavel...LOL!!! You got me:)
@The Big Wee Hag...Thnx. I've never heard them called socks. I've only heard of them referred to as "redshirts."
miles must be seeing ghosts... anyone?
Okay, I don't think my comment posted...
@Webbsta:
That would kind of fit with parts of the time-loop theory, if it is him and the rift is on the other side. A lot of the "continuity" errors and mirror images on the show seem to be there on purpose, possibly showing that each time time is moved backward, little things change each time.
@Chris...
I am also wondering if Miles is seeing ghosts. Do you mean the two new guys?
Yea Becky theres a quick shot of him seeing the 2 guys walking then seeing the bomb/mine? then it explodes.