Thanks to Gabriel for alerting me to the new podcast.
Here are some highlights.
-Juliet is up to no good.
- There's going to be a Goodwin story in the future, although it's hard to determine if they are joking
- Something "fairly momentous" is going to happen in Catch-22
- D.O.C will take us back to the death-of-pregnant-women storyline
- The question arose of the now famous "did we miss something in the pilot" question. They called it a false rumour and that no hidden clue from the pilot has been un-addressed. The last remaining one is: "Guys, where are we?"
- We will see Dharma before the purge and we might see how they repelled the smoke monster with the sonic fence.
- Mentioned Smokie was "Taking Pictures Of Juliet" and "Similar To Reading Eko"
- M.C. Gainey and Carlton Have Worked Together Before
- Rachel may not have had the cancer come back... Ben's folder may have been a lie, MAY.
- Smoke monsters cant jump
- It can go vertical but they raise this question... "Can it detach from the ground?"
- Lost Video Game - XBOX360 PS3 and PC and Damon and Carlton are Working with Ubisoft to make it.
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I hope that the videogame turns out good. Usually these types of things make bad games
if the producers are involved, then the story is probably good.
1. there is a suprise??? (sarcasm)
2. goodwin? i haven't listened to the podcast but this may have to do with my theory that goodwin is the suprising dharma character.
3. they say that every episode. they love jerking the fans around. cuse and lindelof are both self-obsessed fools. but they're bloody good writers..
4. cool, i guess. i'd rather learn more about dharma and the others than this pregnancy issue. hopefully they are linked.
5. i really hope they don't delve too far into the whole 'double timeline' issue
6. dharma is going to be nuts. its gonna be nuts.
7. so juliet is going to be judged? maybe she will die in the finale.
8. m.c. gainey is either a really good actor or a really bad one.
9. ben was lying. he's a pathological liar.
10. doesn't suprise me, theyre made of smoke!
11. can't wait for that one! maybe we can appease the shippers afterall. acting as kate, you can choose to boink jack or sawyer or.... GOODWIN.
I like the game bit for the Xbox 360, that wud be awesome & I can't wait to see the Purge!!
Thanks Gabriel & Dark
I know we have a season and then a series to finish and these are all great spoilers and I can't wait for the eps, but I want to discuss the video game.
Please don't make it a typical, run of the mill, shooter with little video snippets of each character! Could there be a better show to make a Myst-like game out of?! It's like Lost was made FROM Myst, how about returning the favor.
Well, it was obvious that Juliet's up to no good--but are her motives Ben's or her own?
I don't know about the Goodwin story, could be interesting, but I don't really see us needing to know anything about this guy.
The news about D.O.C and Catch-22 isn't anything new, but they're building it up so much it must be (or better be) really good.
False rumour = should've seen it coming.
Dharma before the purge would be interesting, especially since it seems that they have to repel the monster. So does that confirm it's not one of their creations... or is it an experiment gone wrong?
Pictures is what I thought it was doing, so no surprises there. I just wanna know WHY a SMOKE MONSTER would be taking PICTURES of a woman that's been on the island for three years.
Meh to the Gainey and Carlton info.
Yeah, I doubted Rachel had cancer to begin with. Ben's manipulative, and that's all his secret is--he can't cure cancer. But the island... well that's another story.
"Smoke monsters cant jump" - ROFL. Oh dear... Well, we've seen it disconnected from the ground on several occassions, so I don't know what they're trying to spin here.
Finally, THANK GOD Cuse and Lindelof are helping with the game. Anything else would've been a mistake, and I can't wait to have my own LOST experience.
Oh and Mojave, about the game, I've heard that it won't be a shooter and the playable character(s) won't be the main cast (but they may make cameo appearances) and that it won't be bound to the TV shows storyline. Can't remember where I found that though, might've been IGN.
the "goodwin story" would only have to do with his affair w/ juliet (supposedly in a 3rd juliet flashback). i don't think they meant anything more than that.
it's funny to hear carlton cuse go loopy after several all-nighters of writing hahaha
"Can it detach from the ground?"
Awesome! I think this proves what I've theorized. Anytime we've seen the monster, it has always remained just a few feet off the ground, and that is because it has to stay attached to the island. 'Invisibly tethered' to the island.
And M.C. Gainey sounds like he’d be a cool guy to hang out with.
We know Smokey can detach from the ground. All of him was in the air when we saw him hit the plane engine, remember? I think they were dancing around this question to avoid telling us that the fence wasn't on when Kate & friends climbed over it so we will be "surprised" when Patchy turns up alive. No, I don't know how he faked the blood but my feeling is that there was a way.
The "fairly momentous" happening in Catch-22 is obviously that someone from the outside world comes to the island (Naomi).
Entertaining to listen to, but the only REAL info they gave us was that Nikki & Paolo are definitely dead and won't be coming back. Yea!
There's no damn Smokey hitting the engine in the Pilot.
^^^ Too right. They've already discredited the theory that Smokey crashed into the plane engine.
If Juliet is up to no good, I swear I will stop watching. In her flashbacks she was a sweet person and a dedicated scientist. What would make her change so much? People don't change like that for no reason.
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
And what about a new sneak peek or promo? I'm impatient, I know :)
To sawyerrules, me too.I want a new promo,and what is not slightly updated but a hole different promo abbóut catch-22.
@me: /signed
I'm very disappointed if Juliet becomes bad.
It's sort of hard to believe that the smoke monster is 'tethered' to the island. That thing probably killed Eko at a height of 30 feet. It could easily go up and around the fence. I hope they explain this reasonably. Maybe that the monster was 'hurt' after running into the fence, and didn't know it could go over it so it retracted. WHO KNOWS? lol And by the way, D&C are NOT funny! Stick to the writing of the show, and when you do podcasts, be straight-foward, don't fool around because we as fans need definite answers as to fill in the blanks as the show goes on. And the guy interviewing M.C. Gainey has no emotion, sounds too 'gay' and they need to find someone else who can chat with the people from LOST with a hint of intrest in their voice. Very annoying.
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I really don't get it. Why did they make her so likable in her flashbacks if she turns out to be a villain?
All the women on the island are liars, murderers or dumb cows like Claire. How much do Carlton and Damon hate women anyway?
In the previous podcast they said that Ben left Juliet behind 'cause she pissed him off. But in "One of us" we discovered that it wasn't true.
Now, they say that she is bad, so this could be also a foiler.
If you ever needed evidence that these guys are foiling out of both sides of their mouths:
In Entertainment Weekly article last Friday, Lindelof says: "We made a promise back in the pilot. We believe by the end of the season we'll have made good on it. And don't start pestering us about which frigging promise. Trust us. You'll know."
In this podcast, he totally downplays that and says every mystery from the pilot has been explored, except for "Guys, where are we?"
I've been saying all along that the smoke-covered "monster" is subject to the laws of gravity. Sure it lifted Eko up. It has arms or tentacles under all the smoke. That doesn't mean it can leapfrog a tall sonically-repellant wall that has the same frequency as the human head.
they maybe could have used a nap before that little stint.
i'm at least excited for an epi which shows the D.I. as it used to be, and how they came to understand smokie and... well. block it
I cannot wait to see how all of this plays out.
1) I'm still holding up that Juliet wants off the island. Hoping.
2) No COmment
3) I suspect its Anthony Cooper + Death. Maybe he's the character death we were told about? Leaving all our 815ers in tact? Maybe?
4) Already know this.
5) Its famous?
6) yay Dharma!
7) ?
8) So?
9) Ben is a liar. He told the lie in order to gain her trust and to keep her motivated after it was 'cured'.
10) Its a machine...
11) Its a machine...
Really? NO ONE's going to say it? Sigh. These two guys are the biggest geeks I have ever heard. They write a great show, but MAN... how many times do you think they got whooped in high school?
The mystery from the Pilot that they'll make good on is probably something about "Where are we".
Smoky is something mechanical, tethered to the ground, controlable (by someone), and completely explainable. My hunch is it's tied to the whispers. I honestly can't imagine how they're going to explain it, but am pretty sure we'll find out by the end of the season.
The losties are going to find out just exactly where they are this season and next season will be spent fighting against the "others" trying to get rescue. Probably by fighting for control of whatever "cloaks" the island from view.
Just my 2 cents.
For all those downing CC & DL . . . there is a difference between a mystery and a promise. "Making good on a promise" does NOT mean revealing the answer to a mystery. Don't you people understand English!
And yes . . . I do bet they got whooped a lot in high school - hahaha!
Seriously some people, Juliet was good, she loves her sister without measure and wants to be with her so much. Didn't you see her when she got the clip of her with her child. That was the face of someone who wanted nothing less than to see her loved ones. And you think that doesn't justify doing anything however bad it is to get off the island. Juliet is an awesome character and totally understand her bad actions.
And again with them speaking BS about the promise in pilot, you contradict yourself by saying after that there's still the where are we, has it crossed your mind that THAT'S the promise. Big I know but it seems logical. You can still have a season left after that mystery is solved, they still need to get off.
Sorry for the rant just two very lament things I need to get across.
The Lost game sounds cool, I can't wait til it comes out for the Xbox 360 but I really hope it turns out to be a game as good as Halo or Lost Planet {graphics wise} & u can eventually play all of ur favourite character, both the Losties & the Others. I wonder if u can play Vincent lol
I hope we learn about Smokey in the remaining episodes of Season 3. if it can carry Eko's & the pilot's body 30 feet in the air, then surely it can go over the sonic fence.
I'd say r.i.p. Juliet. But I won't. =)
"Really? NO ONE's going to say it? Sigh. These two guys are the biggest geeks I have ever heard. They write a great show, but MAN... how many times do you think they got whooped in high school?"
That's exactly why I love them. XD
9. Rachel may not have had the cancer come back... Ben's folder may have been a lie, MAY.
Well, it wasn't a lie. It was a true chart, just not Rachel's. It was Ben's. If you look at all the screengrabs, it says MALE, 187 lbs.
Ben showed Juliet his own chart showing his own cancer.
Haha it would great if they turned a prop error into a plot point.
Hope the video game is done right. So many TV shows have resluted in lousy games.
1. When it comes right down to it, I'm pretty sure that Juliet is good, but then again so are all the others in a way. I'm sure they all think they're doing the right thing. The show is all about ambiguities and shades of grey... keep in mind that the 815ers are comprised primarily of murderers, drug addicts, torturers, and other "lost" souls. In the end she's lived with them for years, and they haven't killed her boyfriend or blown up the submarine that was supposed to take her home. However, that doesn't mean that she won't eventually grow attached to the 815ers and decide to switch allegiances.
2. If there's a Goodwin story I believe it will be in the Juliet Flashback and probably deal with their relationship and her reaction to his death.
3. Seeing as how this episode is Desmond-Centric i'm hoping it will involve a Desmond-flashback and his learning that his new ability not only lets him see the future, but also lets him change the past (as in the last flashback. This could mean that it's possible for the other 815ers to go back and change their lives. My theory is that the show will eventually end with the 815ers learning that they were brought to the island for a specific reason, because it's the only place where it's possible to go back and change the terrible things in their lives. Thus they'll never truly get off the island, they'll just go back and fix the things that brought them there in the first place.
4. I'm very interested to see how the pregnancy storyline plays out. Why can there be no new life on the island? Does this also mean that death doesn't truly exist? Certainly seems to have worked for Jack's dad. This would seem to support a kind of purgatory storyline (Maybe not purgatory in a traditional sense but more of a place outside of normal space and time where "lost" souls (sorry i'll stop doing the quotation marks now) are pulled to right what's wrong. Also, what were the real treatments they were giving Claire for? Did Ethan really go rogue? Is the mysterious virus that killed all of Rousseau's people linked to this? If Juliet's treatments really were bogus then why was Claire able to have her baby, is that what's special about the kid and why the others wanted him so badly. It definitely seems to me that the flashbacks about Juliet being able to do nothing for the other women were more than filler, I'm pretty sure Claire was simply immune and the others want to know why.
5. I'm a little stumped on this one unless they're really going to tell us where they are. Although I guess technically they could reveal some history or info about where the island physically is without giving too much away. I mean we've basically barely struck the surface of the island's history, we still have an old ship, a big smokey monster, a box that spits out people's dads/horses/whatever else we can theorize came out of there, and a statue of a foot with three toes that I have a feeling was on the island long before Dharma or the others.
6. I definitely buy into the whole smokie (AKA Cerberus) being tethered to the island bit. Seeing as he's made up of non-corporeal smoke it makes sense that he can exist as either a big fat cloud of picture taking smoke, or a slender column that goes 100 feet in the air. As well, if he wasn't tethered to the island in some way you think he'd of ventured off the island at some point in all the time he's been there.
7. I definitely don't think Smokey's a machine. Mostly because I think that's far too simple for D.L. and C.C. to let slip by, also kind of lame. If we're right in assuming that the cerberus mentioned on the map last season is smokey, then Cerberus was the guardian of the underworld in Greek mythology and responsible for ensuring that only the dead, and not the living could enter Hades, and likewise that the dead could not leave. He's also been mentioned as a security system of sorts which would fit right into this. I'm guessing that when he's reading people, he's figuring out whether they're lost souls or at peace with themselves, and this has something to do with why he kills some people and lets others live. If we look back at some of the deaths we know he's caused (The Pilot, Eko, and I'm going to say shannon because of the whispers) they'd definitely all changed (maybe not the pilot since we barely knew him, but definitely EKO and Shannon) the question now is was it a good change or a bad change and what distinction is the monster making.
9. I'm going to bet on it being a lie, whatever the island is, Ben seems to be out of favour with it (Cancer, pregnant women dying, etc) and it makes me think he's desperate enough
So this is a long post and probably nothing new, but the more I procrastinate the less of this peoposal I have to write.
"Smokie monsters can't jump"? Who said "jump"? We've seen it fly through the jungle. We've seen it go up 30 feet. All it needs to do to go over the fence is to arch itself over to the other side, touch the ground if it needs to and then pull the rest of it up and over. Maybe all those sleepless nights busy writing like zombies have taken their toll and these guys are slipping on the details...
They also confirmed 100% that Nikki & Paulo are dead and buried.
It's pretty painful to listen to their "jokes". They ARE NOT funny!!! Like them otherwise, though.
re: "All the women on the island are liars, murderers or dumb cows"
.....
art imitates life?
"2. If there's a Goodwin story I believe it will be in the Juliet Flashback and probably deal with their relationship and her reaction to his death."
...the only Lostie left alive that had met Goodwin is Bernard. Juliet can only assume he's dead because he went out one day and never returned. Unless she goes out that side of the island and runs across his corpse....
" Is the mysterious virus that killed all of Rousseau's people linked to this?"
Rousseau killed all of her people. She said they were infected, and she had to.
the part where Cuse cracks is seriously the best part on these podcasts COMBINED. so f-ing awesome.
The smoke monster killed the Pilot in season one, at the very top of a very tall tree. Remember they found the pilot alive after a bit, in the wreckage stuck in the canopy? That tree was much taller than the fence.
smoky threw the pilot, he could've landed anywhere.
and smokie not goin over the fence...no one said he was smart...maybe he just wasnt interested in juliet
qasper and ben,
I have been looking for these pictures ever since I read your reply to my post on the 17th. It took me forever but I finally found it! Go here: http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2006/06/cgi-error-or-smoke-monster.html
If that's not Smokey, what is it? I don't believe D&C discredited that theory at all. I think it's just another case of someone misinterpreting their comments into whatever they wanted to hear.
Such a disapointment!! There was no big reveal! Not once during the last episode did I say..."OMG, did you see that"!
"God loves you as he loved Jacob." WTF?