Thanks to fedrich519 for the summary.
*Shocking twist for the finale will not be the final scene, but close to the end of the episode.
*Oceanic Six are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun, and Aaron.
*Tom (Mr. Friendly) is indeed gay.
*Desmond/Minkowski "side effects" may indeed be the "Sickness" that Rouseau refers to... (they hint at it very strongly)
*The Swan Hatch implosion will probably not be revisited. However, we have not seen the last of the "purple sky" this season.
*They explain the appearance of certain paranormal events and what they are....
Ben's mother=apparition
Sawyer's Boar=animal
Spider=monster
Hurley bird=no comment
Dave=apparation/imagination
Yemi=Monster
Kate's horse=undead
Mikail' Cat Nadia=animal
Walt=some have been apparition, some have been monster
Boone in Locke's dream=dream
*Lepidus name in Expose script that Hurley read is just a name one of the writers in fond of.
*Is Aaron in danger since he is being "Raised by Another"? The psychic told Claire that she must raise the baby herself. They leave it up to the viewers if you believe if the psychic is real or not.
*Significance of name Kevin Johnson.....the Others chose the most innocuous and bland name they could so as not to raise suspicion and raise attention to Michael's alias.
*Will learn much more about four-toed statue and Black Rock.
*Secret code name for the finale twist "The Frozen Donkey Wheel"
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A freaking fire alarm interrupted them... that is freaking hilarious.
They confirmed that Aaron is one of the 6 ... we can now put that to rest. Thank goodness.
No more details about the swan imploding. Haven't seen the last of the purple sky. Another electromagnetic event coming up this year.
MAN! I can't handle this guy that opens up the podcasts
Oh good lord ... The Frozen Donkey Wheel ... codename for the last scene of the finale. I think I might actually like it better than Snake in the Mailbox.
hahaha the frozen donkey wheel! thats gotta mean something :D
Shape of THings to Come = 4:09 title
very kool we did get some good info and the banjo omg i was laughing os hard.
*Shocking twist for the finale will not be the final scene, but close to the end of the episode.
*Oceanic Six are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun, and Aaron.
*Tom (Mr. Friendly) is indeed gay.
*Desmond/Minkowski "side effects" may indeed be the "Sickness" that Rouseau refers to... (they hint at it very strongly)
*The Swan Hatch implosion will probably not be revisited. However, we have not seen the last of the "purple sky" this season.
*They explain the appearance of certain paranormal events and what they are....
Ben's mother=apparition
Sawyer's Boar=animal
Spider=monster
Hurley bird=no comment
Dave=apparation/imagination
Yemi=Monster
Kate's horse=undead
Mikail' Cat Nadia=animal
Walt=some have been apparition, some have been monster
Boone in Locke's dream=dream
*Lepidus name in Expose script that Hurley read is just a name one of the writers in fond of.
*Is Aaron in danger since he is being "Raised by Another"? The psychic told Claire that she must raise the baby herself. They leave it up to the viewers if you believe if the psychic is real or not.
*Significance of name Kevin Johnson.....the Others chose the most innocuous and bland name they could so as not to raise suspicion and raise attention to Michael's alias.
*Will learn much more about four-toed statue and Black Rock.
*Secret code name for the finale twist "The Frozen Donkey Wheel"
"Frozen Donkey Wheel"
It's official... Darlton have completely lost it.
The most obvious relation is the Challah Guys that were looking for Electromagnetic Anomalies.
So, let me see:
Frozen: Penny's Dudes
Donkey: Donkey, otherwise known as an ass. Ass may refer to the term Jackass, which would refer to Jack.
Wheel: The Dharma Van comes back.
So, as I read it: Penny's Frozen Tundra Dudes run over Jack with the Dharma Van.
des108: brilliant!
Oh and this podcast was hilarious.
Frozen Donkey Wheel - For some reason that makes me think of a carousel at a fair or something...
Frozen donkey wheel = Weekend frozen holy
It's a clue about the weather this Easter weekend. And it's gonna be cold.
*Secret code name for the finale twist "The Frozen Donkey Wheel"
Cold A$$ Circle...??? lol...
"No more details about the swan imploding"
WHAT???!?! So we are supposed to assume that Eko, Desmond and Locke just happened to survive?
Well, a 'donkey wheel' was, as you might imagine, a wheel powered by a donkey and used mainly to extract water from wells.
I suspect this is just Darlton being 'zany' and throwing up some bizarre take on 'snake in the mailbox'.
"frozen donkey wheel" huh, i'm assuming its referring to the character flaws of the losties and how they keep repeating the same mistakes they make off-island? going with last years "snake in the mailbox" i would have liked it to be "the polar bear in the wardrobe"
I think the finale will elude to how the others can travel to and from the island. The island i believe is frozen in time.
Well, I'm not going to spend any time puzzling over what "Frozen Donkey Wheel" means. It's probably something that will only make sense after we've seen the scene.
Frozen: Frozen in Time. May mean we will find out that it has been several years since the 06 have left the island, but on the island, its only been a few weeks.
Donkey: I like the jack@$$ meaning Jack point someone made. Could mean that the main focus will be on Jack.
Wheel: The circle begins again? Trying to find the island? Maybe the final shot of the season finale will be the 06, or whoever joins Jack's quest, boarding a plane, as it is hinted that maybe this time the plane will crash . . .
the apparition's are good, the monster is bad. light versus dark. good side of a person vs. evil side of a person. hence Walt being on both sides. This could also mean he dies later on.
I'm starting to think Walt is in the coffin.
and what's up with Kate's horse being an undead horse? does that mean it's a zombie? or a vampire?
So Locke, Eko and Desmond surving is not going to be exmplained? Why did Desmond wake up in the jungle naked how did they all survive?
Sorry, Darlton, but these are MASSIVE questions to a very important part in the Lost story, and to ignore it would mean that you guys have no idea, which is a shame because I thought things like this would be explained.
How many other big things will be left unexplained?
oh i'm sure they get explained. eventually.
oh i'm sure they get explained. eventually.
LMAO, all humor aside, the "donkey" could definitely refer to Jack. Wierd, but yeah.
Also, can anyone tell me the relation between Snake in the Mailbox and last season's finale. I didn't catch up on it.
i think the snake in the mailbox just meant something that should be familiar (like opening the mailbox and having a show with flashbacks) suddenly becomes the unexpected (a snake being inside your mailbox when you reach in / flashes no longer being flashbacks as were used to but now flashforwards)
Using that type of idea- if a Donkey wheel was used to move water- a frozen one would be useless- so something which usually runs smoothly will now be rendered useless (this could, unfortunately, deal with time running smoothly etc) ...just an idea
I can't believe people are trying to find meaning in "frozen donkey wheel." Season 2's code was "Challah bread." Can someone enlighten me as to the deeper meaning behind that one?
You guys think too much. Sometimes silly is just ...silly. Take a few weeks off, why dontcha.
Surly,
Challah referred to "twists", like the way Challah bread is twisted
I don't think any of this is REALLY true. How does Walt being an "apparition" and manifestation of the monster explain how he appeared to Locke taller?
"Donkey = Ass = Jackass = Jack" may very well become my crowning achievement.
I really lost a lot of respect for Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse for their attempts to explain each of the different animals/vision/apparitions on the island. I wish they respected the audience enough for them to reach their own conclusions. No person has absolute control over interpretation, not even an artist who creates something individuall, and especially not a person who works collaboratively.
In fact, I think the whole concept of a podcast for each episode is a horrible idea. I would have no problem with the show's creators discussing the creative process, and give a behind-the-scenes look at how they made certain decisions. However, the idea of spelling things out for viewers is just plain bad. (Moreover, it creates a bigger problem in discussion of the show. Some people's arguments rely on 'the producers said this,' 'the producers confirmed,' the producers, the producers, etc. ad nauseum ad infinitum.) The only evidence that matters should be the evidence from the episodes themselves.
And I still stand by my theory that Penny's Frozen Tundra Dudes run over Jack with the Dharma Van.
Luhks - No disrespect, but why don't you just not listen to the podcasts and than you can decipher the episodes any way you like without listening to the explanation from the creators of the show.
My favorite part of the podcast was when Damond was asked the question of whether or not Aaron was in danger. His response was along the lines of, yes, he is in danger because a murderer who likes to blow up men is the one caring for him. He said once Aaron is able, he should beat feet as quickly as possible and get as far away from Kate as he can. This part just cracked me up.
Frozen Donkey Wheel.........what the hell is a donkey wheel?
Well maybe DONKET WHEEL will be a flashforward of jack being back on the island? wonder if jack will find out about claire being his half sister this season ? aaron being his nephew ? hope for more libby - mr friendly - walt - michael not able to off himself could explain why hurley was'nt afraid about running from the police - and of course jacks crazy actions - its amazing but i realley dont care who dies or survives from the midseason cliffhanger - no big deal!!!!
Desmond108: That would be the Best Episode Ever!!
i think the executive producers said christian shephard is also "undead". & yes i am trying to decipher the meaning of the different visible roles that animals and people not on the plane/not alive play on the show. i am glad i listened to the podcast b/c when they show the smoke monster turning into a human (came close with eko and yemi's confession where eko had to pay "the cost of living") i won't be one of the people assuming that all dead people appearing on the island are the smoke monster. & yes i am trying to find meaning to the frozen donkey wheel name. some people are obsessed with the giants, yankees, i'm a lost fan and proud of it :)
WE WILL KNOW WHY LOCKE, EKO & DESMOND SURVIVED.
Just because we're not revisiting the Swan implosion. The reason they survived is the same reason our 815ers survived the crash (another impossible survival, as Sayid has said, that ended up with Jack awakening fine and dandy IN THE SAME eye-shot, pull-out as Locke did after the Swan imploded.)
We will get more electromagnetic events and what we learn from them will explain what happened with the hatch and the plane crash.
That's the way LOST rolls.
Oh, and those answers for the different animals/apparitions/dreams etc. should not be considered definitive. Damon himself said he was going to do it like free word association. So they are legit clues - but don't think this should shoot down any theories, just help add value to them. Luhks, I wouldn't worry about these being almighty decisions laid down from on high - they are simply clues of which of those vague and overlapping terms came to mind to Damon when these things are mentioned.
My personal favorite was Spiders/Monster. I've always held that you could distinctly hear the monster noise when the spiders started attacking Nikki/Paulo. And it just fits that the monster would be associated with their commupence...
I thought that when the psychic said Aaron should not be raised by another meant more like An Other. Claire realized then that she really did need to care for her unborn baby and got the chance to bond with it because she was on Lost Island and learned how to be his mother. I don't think of Kate as "another"...when we have 'Others" around!
Thoughts?
Another thing I noticed is that the producers strongly hinted at the four toed statue having to do with ancient civilizations, and Charlotte perhaps knowing something about that.