**UPDATED** 5PM PST: Added some additional scans thanks to Sawyer840. No new spoilers, but some really nice scans from this issue.
Producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse provided TV Guide with several new details and what we should expect for the remainder of Season 4.
A bunch of great news and below is the rundown of the spoilers in the article.
Thanks to Lyly for the scan:
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1) We will learn "exactly" what happened to Michael between leaving the island and him getting to NYC.
2) Michael is a "pivotal" part of the end of the season and he will have an "impact" on many of the characters, including Sayid.
3) We will see how the Oceanic 6 "escaped the island" and what happens to those that don't leave.
4) The Team Locke v Team Jack debate about who is right will "amplify"
5) We will learn who is in the coffin
6) More about the freighter people
7) We will also find out who "seemingly killed" Karl and Rousseau
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46 Comments:
"seemingly killed"
Ok... definitley Rousseau is alive!
I wonder how some of these are going to be revealed...
#2 might be Michael telling them how to get off the island?
#1 and #3 might be when the O6 head on a bearing of 325?
#5 is... Michael?
#7 Rousseau lives!
EXCELLENT!!! LOST is supercool!!!!!
I especially like the bit about what happened to Michael between leaving the island and ending up in new york - I was willing to assume that TPTB left this part out of Meet Kevin Johnson, as it wasn't something important...but it sounds like it is, so hopefully it's something mega like he ends up back in new york 2 months PRIOR to the crash!!
(from the spoilers so far, I'm reckoning there isn't gonna be enough ep space for another Michael flashback episode...so I'm willing to bet the finale will end up being a sort of collective flashback/forward episode ala Exodus from season 1)
i actually love these type of spoilers....
i was actually bummed that we did not find out about HOW michael got from the island to NYC...because i was under the impression we were...
i am really glad to hear that we will get that aspect of the show...and i think it will be key point to help us understand more about traveling from and to the island...
btw...i am assuming they will fit in the details about the orchid somewhere along the way as well... :)
also i agree with you guys about them trying to fit all this together...but i love it...
- odi
The coffin reveal! :)
I've been waiting for that ever since 'Through the looking glass' left my socks elsewhere.
Heh, awesome #1. That's good.
How many more times do they need to say they're going to reveal who's in the coffin? Just want us to be sure they ain't lying about it? :)
now i'm more positive about Danielle being alive! :-D
Danielle is in the coffin -
2 birds, 1 stone.
(kidding)
Well it'd definitely seem there is a Jack FF then, and i'm willing to bet he tells one of the Oceanic 6 about whoever is in the coffin, maybe Sayid if it's Michael?
I told you guys that we really needed to know how he got from boat to NYC!!! And Michael obviously suicides or sacrifices himself... probably because the island will let him finally...
The spoilers are cool.
On a completely unrelated note, I've had it with seeing Kate in the disgusting sweat-stained khaki tank top. This is definitely worse than Michael's red tee-shirt in Season 2 and Desmond's ever-abiding blue blouse.
When I first watched Meet Kevin Johnson, I assumed we wud see what happened to Michael & Walt when they left Pala Ferry. But I am glad that we will see that b4 the season finishes.
I think Danielle is playing dead until the Freighter people who shot them have gone.
I agree with u ODI. I love these kinda off info.
Perhaps we will learn how Michael was rescued because the Oceanic 6 might be rescued in the same way.
And probably Michael will be the responsible for the rescue, hence the impact on Sayid.
And of course, with all his story and redemption wrapped up, he will be the strongest candidate for the coffin :)
renee g said: "On a completely unrelated note, I've had it with seeing Kate in the disgusting sweat-stained khaki tank top. This is definitely worse than Michael's red tee-shirt in Season 2 and Desmond's ever-abiding blue blouse."
Kate can wash herself, Michael get a new hood, but please, let Desmond keep his buttonless blue shirt :)
Now I'm thinking that maybe Michael will end up saving their butts.
That tank top is pretty rank at this point. Jack's blue t-shirt is faring infinitely better. Granted they've only been wearing them about a week island time, but then again...a week is too long.
Take if off Kate ;)
lmao at naomi's corpse. man, someone should've edited that out
great info! i'm assuming we find out more of the freighter people by verbal knowledge, not actual flashbacks
i wonder how we find out about michael's other trip, unless he gets either the episode 12 or 13 flashback or something. hmm, this might make sense if michael is sacrificing himself, they should give him a two-episode send-off. but who knows, that's probably verbal knowledge, too.
i'm so excited to see how the oceanic 6 leaves! and hopefully claire doesn't die :/
obviously, jack and locke are both somewhat right... about different things. i'm very excited to see what happens with these "teams!"
and yeah, rousseau = alive. they say seemingly because they can't say dead if the word doesn't apply to both :)
and THANK GOD the coffin mystery won't be dragged on forever and ever. man, if michael saves their lives and ends up with an empty funeral service, i will feel TERRIBLE! i assume he's in the coffin at least. maybe it's ben?
A lot of people are misreading #1. The article says we will learn what "exactly" happened, in the March 20 episode. Which was "Meet Kevin Johnson".
Thinking again about my previous post... if Michael saves them, Jack would consider him a friend (friend or familly), wouldn't he? And no Mamma and Walt at his funeral? Sad.
Oh, and thanks The ODI and Lyly.
Long life to Rousseau!
yea that top was disgusting... but she took it off after her shower on othersville.... she now has a blue top on.
oh and please, let desmond keep his unbuttoned shirt on. :)
or off =)
Ok, can someone tell me what TBTB means??
Anyway, I noticed many similarities between The Constant and Meet Kevin Johnson:
The faucet running in Michael's apartment=the faucet Widmore left on in the men's room.
The Mama Cass song=Mama Cass song Desmond played in the hatch
The shot of Walt looking at Michael out of the window=Penny looking at Desmond out the window.
I'm wondering if "exactly" how Michael got off the island has to do with jumping through time?
TPTB = The Powers That Be, i.e. Damon and Carlton aka Darlton
Nice comments about Yunjin! She really deserves an emmy for that episode!!!
Judging by his hair and beard, I don't think a neat appearance is a top priority for Dessie right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he wore that unbuttoned shirt to dinner with Penny in a flashforward :)
dark could you please remove Fenridal for leaving virus links
Kate can wash herself, Michael get a new hood, but please, let Desmond keep his buttonless blue shirt :)
Amen.
@sgeureka said...
A lot of people are misreading #1. The article says we will learn what "exactly" happened, in the March 20 episode. Which was "Meet Kevin Johnson".
You misread it, I believe...
It says "Sure, we now know Michael made it ot Manhattan after leaving the island. But upcoming episodes will reveal HOW he made it home. You see?
It seems weird that, if they were going to show Michael & Walt's journey home, they didn't show it in "Meet Kevin Johnson." When they didn't, I figured that meant it wasn't important and they didn't want to spend time on details that didn't matter. Not only that, but how would they film it with an older, taller Walt?
Now it sounds like their escape from the island may be important. Otherwise, why show it now? And when are they going to show it? In someone else's FB, or in the multicentric final 2 episodes of the season? I just don't see how they're going to do it... and what it will reveal.
@samus88
The "exactly" clearly refers to the MKJ ep. I took the "how" to mean something like a two-sentence explanation later on ("I and Walt were on the boat for two days and then we were picked up by a fisher boat off the shore of Fiji"). Either way, I wouldn't get my hopes up that we'll be given much more trustworthy detail from Michael any time soon. I could be wrong, but the article doesn't give us any more at this point.
It says we will "learn"... not "see"... it's quite easy for Michael to say to anyone "Hey, you know? I was with my kid in a boat and..." etc.
@sgeureka
Upcoming episodes will reveal *how* he made it home.
"You will be getting the detailed version of what exactly happened to Michael in between Ben sending him and Walt off the island and when we first meet him behind the wheel of that car" in the March 20 episode, Lindelof promises. (exact quote from TV Guide article)
In other words, they will fill in the gaps between them leaving the island and when we picked up the story in "Meet Kevin Johnson."
I stand corrected. I had read "in the March 20 episode" as to refer to "You will be getting the detailed version", not "when we first meet him".
Im so happy they will show *how* or say how in whatever capacity micheal got off the island with walt. In meet kevin johnson I thought they were going to start from the beggining and actually have a scene where there on the boat and they go through to the other side. But we've already seen the helicopter do it through the clouds in the sky, so maybe they didnt feel it was the right moment to do so in that episode, because a small boat on the water would definatly have a different experience, an experience which might need to be explained a little bit somehow before they SHOW us, trust me, its not going to be as simple as "they get picked up by another boat" uh uh. And they know that the fans want closure beyond what we expect.
So that might be why they would want to show micheal and walts perspective in a different episode, and i reallly hope thats what that spoiler means.
I am absolutly thrilled they plan to do all of these things in the second half, they've said from the beggining the first half of season 4 is going to be mostly questions and the second is going to be mostly answers, and it seems to be true, therfore second half is gunna be better!
Sounds like we will learn a lot! I am so glad we'll find out how Michael got back to NY, how the Oceanic 6 got off the island and what happened to those who didn't, and who is in the coffin. Also very hyped that Michael plays a pivitol role in the finale.
I think Michael is gonna die saving the Oceanic 6
Desmond's opened blue shirt is my constant.
i didn't read all the way through the comments.... but here is one thing i noticed from the article - it says that 'the Oceanic 6 "escaped the island" '.... shore don't sound like they are leaving on a cruise.....
How Michael got from the boat to NYC is not a mystery, IMO. Why would we need to see him steering into a port?
Hey Snoobie, if Des should lose the shirt and you start flicking through time..
Could ya make a note of some future lottery numbers for me ;)
I'm just excited to learn more about the Freighters; Dan in particular.
I think by "escaped" the island, they literally mean that...as Jack basically said, they weren't supposed to leave. I think they mean "escape" because the island wants them there, and even though they've technically been "rescued", they're still escaping their fate.
Or maybe they stow away on the freighter. Hell if I know.
Yup, Rosseau isn't dead.
Too many answers, it means there will be more new questions to think about!
"Desmond's opened blue shirt is my constant."
I completely agree